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edifyingkarma

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Hello my knowledgable friends :).

I am wondering whether or not the 9800GX2 would be a decent upgrade over my SLI'ed 8800GTs. Here is the thing though. Im running them on a 650i which only supports 8x PCIe to each card. Due to the fact that it will support a full 16x to 1 card, would I see enough return to make the possible upgrade worth it? I can get the GX2 for an insane price if i decide to buy it
 
Thats not an upgrade. 9800GX2 IS pretty much 8800GTs in SLI.
I doubt the dual 8x lanes are hindering you that much, if any at all.

The 9800GX2 doesn't really have the best reputation around here so unless you can get in really really cheap, I'd say skip it entirely.
 
nope the 9800 gx2 studders like a bastard


and 8x/8x wont hurt you, i was running 8x/8x on 4870 cards and the two scored similar scored to a single 4870x2
 
the 9800gx2 does not stutter like a bastard, i like this card better on an intel mobo than 2 g92's on a nvidia mobo anyday. its faster also. yes i have actually owned all these setups.
 
my 9800gx2 has been great for me. ive noticed stuttering in only 1 or 2 games (and thats when i think im acting paranoid).

only con i can have for it is that it is HOT.
 
The 9800GX2 is a great card if you can get it for under $290. Keep it cool, crank up the fan, and it will treat you well.
 
i hated mine only had it 3 weeks and got in on the stepup to the gtx 280 asap

maybe it was just having a hard time with 1920x1200 gaming
 
I actually returned my gtx 280 recently to get a gx2, I needed the money and I got the gx2 for $304 after tax and shipping and I got 200 dollars credited to me, and it overclocks fine to 720/1780/2100, and it handily beats gtx 280 that I had overclocked at 702/1428/2500, I do not feel any stutter in games, there is only stutter in games if you are getting very low fps, even crysis does not stutter, I get 52fps avg at 1920x1200 with everything at high, and that is actually 6fps higher than what I got with gtx 280.

you cant go wrong with it for 300 bucks, I think nvidia actually wants people buying this card as it is probably still profiting them, and it actually gives them the time to refresh the gtx 280 which probably is not very profitable at this moment.
 
Rattle said:
the 9800gx2 does not stutter like a bastard, i like this card better on an intel mobo than 2 g92's on a nvidia mobo anyday. its faster also. yes i have actually owned all these setups.
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Ya infact it does stutter pretty badly , considered one of the worst offenders as well right behind the 7950 GX2.
 
I've a 9800GX2 too, and all this supposed 'stuttering' is still a mystery to me. More than happy with my card as it easily beats anything I throw at it at my resolution, although naturally it was sort of sucky to see the 4870X2 arrive just three-four months after I bought the GX2.
 
It seems the only people who complain about the stuttering are those who have not owned the card.
 
ihira said:
Thats not an upgrade. 9800GX2 IS pretty much 8800GTs in SLI.
I doubt the dual 8x lanes are hindering you that much, if any at all.

The 9800GX2 doesn't really have the best reputation around here so unless you can get in really really cheap, I'd say skip it entirely.
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Thats incorrect, 9800Gx2 is 8800GTS G92 512 SLI, not GT as the GT has112SP, GTS and Gx2 has 128SP per core. The only thing GT and Gx2 has incommon besides the narrow 256-bit interface is the core and shader clock.


Cheffy said:
It seems the only people who complain about the stuttering are those who have not owned the card.
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I had one i payed way to mutch for(over 500€). Ok it was just ok when i ran a 20" @1680x1050 but i had to cut down the eyecandy to make it acceptable. But that card is no way near good enought for a 24"@1920x1200 and eyecandy even at lowlevel. Ok the peakmax may be higher than the GTX280 but i can care less about that as the minfps is the most important thing for me and Gx2 has not enough membuffer to handle highrez and eyecandy. I traded in that for a GTX280 and due to shortage of the vanilla i got a GTX280SC from EVGA that i run in SLI with the vanilla i bougth when i was fed up with the issues TDU was a master to show even with no eyecandy it was shown directly even in GRID-menu how bad the GX2 are.
Love my 280:s that kill Gx2 QuadSLI in the most thing and have hard to understand why anyone that runs anything over 20-22" wants to buy that when the 280 now are so cheap and mutch better card in general and now enjoy reading about the hassle around the new king and how some just changed their mind 180 about it.
Might pick up another cheap 316€ EVGA GTX280 later if needed to keep up.
 
Seems like whenever there's a thread about the 9800GX2, the same people always come in to bash it.

My 9800GX2 runs just fine w/ my 2408WFP. I don't notice any stuttering and I can max things out in most games I play. I don't play Crysis though and don't know why ppl. buy video cards just to see if they can max it out. Is Crysis even a good game?

If you can get the 9800GX2 at a good price and you've got decent cooling, then go for it.
 
IsLNdbOi said:
Seems like whenever there's a thread about the 9800GX2, the same people always come in to bash it.

My 9800GX2 runs just fine w/ my 2408WFP. I don't notice any stuttering and I can max things out in most games I play. I don't play Crysis though and don't know why ppl. buy video cards just to see if they can max it out. Is Crysis even a good game?

If you can get the 9800GX2 at a good price and you've got decent cooling, then go for it.
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I've noticed the same thing. I have no issues with this stuttering, but I've been preached at by a few die-hards who basically attack anyone who thinks that this stuttering issue isn't the worst thing since Windows ME (and as a result we should kick up a storm about it and bash away).
 
IsLNdbOi said:
Seems like whenever there's a thread about the 9800GX2, the same people always come in to bash it.

My 9800GX2 runs just fine w/ my 2408WFP. I don't notice any stuttering and I can max things out in most games I play. I don't play Crysis though and don't know why ppl. buy video cards just to see if they can max it out. Is Crysis even a good game?

If you can get the 9800GX2 at a good price and you've got decent cooling, then go for it.
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People who has not own both can´t really give a 100% fair view of the cards since they have no idea of how the other is in realworld gaming, can they?
And that is my point that owners of Gx2 defending the crap out of the poor card without knowing how a GT200 acts and how the most important MIN FPS is better on GT200 and the utter useless MAX FPS is higher to no use on Gx2.
Hell, i liked it in the beginning before GT200 was born and that going from a 8800GTX.

Who said we buy cards for Crysis anyway, it just happens that that game is the hardest to push and therefore is a good tool to compare cards without every card maxes the game out and make the comparison 100% useless,
 
What cards are you talking about other than the 9800GX2? Why would I buy a GTX260 when the 9800GX2 is doing just fine (much better than my previous card) with all the games I play now?

I don't just use mine for gaming either. I use it for folding when I'm not gaming. Don't you guys "push" your cards anyway with other tools like 3DMark? You know, to see who has the bigger score?

From reading posts all over the place, it looks like alot of people buy these new cards just to see how well it will do in Crysis.

Anyway, to the OP: What's that insane price you could have gotten it for?
 
I wouldn't have gotten it simply because it's almost the same thing. Why pay all that money for so little?
 
The 9800GX2 does indeed suck at AA though, at least on the more demanding games. I didn't believe it until I tried it out myself.

BUT, if you have adequate cooling in your case, you can really overclock the 9800GX2 well. Mine is set at 9800GX2 KO speeds (675MHz Core, 1650MHz Shader Clock, 2100MHz Memory) and it really really improves performance. I can only imagine a watercooled quad-SLI solution.

But considering that I bought a 8800GT for $240 last December, and then sold it for $150, I'm really content with EVGA 9800GX2 price-tag of $280. You really can't go wrong, and it leaves room for a step-up.

I hate to hear people bash the 9800GX2, because it's a really good video card.
 
E.R said:
People who has not own both can´t really give a 100% fair view of the cards since they have no idea of how the other is in realworld gaming, can they?
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why, we have all had multiple single cards before to no what 'certified' non-stuttering bliss is like?
 
R3MF said:
why, we have all had multiple single cards before to no what 'certified' non-stuttering bliss is like?
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I refering to 280 vs Gx2. You dont know how bad the gx2 are if you not have owned a 280.
Some say go Gx2 as that is "better" but max FPS is the least important thing to care about and 280 has higer min FPS, that is most important.
Besides one GPU scales better than two and two better than four in general.
 
heya guy ive got a bit of a dilema i can get the gx2 for 10$ more than the 4870 and i dont know wich one to buy is the gx2 better or the same as the 4870?

another thing do i need a nvidia mobo because i heard that the gx2 needs to run sli or it wont work properly
 
I'd go with the 4870. No, you don't need an Nvidia mobo to run a 9800GX2, SLI is done on the card itself. I have both a 9800GX2 and a 4870 running on Intel P35 based boards and they score about the same in 3Dmark06 on stock clocks. I'd go with the 4870 though because it's a single GPU and has GDDR5 which is HIGHLY overclockable.
 
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