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This UPS any good?

also, is ok to plug a UPS into a surge protector? I know it's bad to plug a surge protector into a UPS, just wondering if the other way around is the same.
 
ChingChang said:
Belkin 1500 VA Dual Form Factor Small Enterprise UPS - F6C1500-TW-RK - $140 shipped

I basically just need a good UPS, around $100-150 is the budget.
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Ultra 1025VA: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1815467&CatId=20

Ultra 1000VA: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=770423&CatId=20 (pretty much same thing w/o LCD)

Opti-UPS 1000VA: http://www.directron.com/es1000c.html

Radian 1500VA: http://www.provantage.com/radian-technologies-rpf1500~7RDIP002.htm

ChingChang said:
also, is ok to plug a UPS into a surge protector? I know it's bad to plug a surge protector into a UPS, just wondering if the other way around is the same.
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That's fine to do.
 
so those UPS's are better than the belkin? Any reason other than build quality? do they have important features that the belkin does not have?
 
Well, honestly I don't know anything about the Radian. It's just really inexpensive for a 1500VA. :)

The Ultra's are built by Powercom, which is a good thing. ;) Also they come with UPSMON which is easy to use.

Opti-UPS is just top notch stuff. I think I have about four or five of them around the house. :D Not sure who makes them though.

Don't know who makes the Belkin and can't really say that I know them to be "bad." I've heard the software can be a PITA.
 
I have been using APC's forever & they have never failed me,
however you would want a "Smart" model with true sine wave output & they are not cheap.
 
hmm belkin one says "Simulated Sine Wave", I'm guessing that's another name for Modified Square Wave?
Sine Wave output would be great, but I think it would cost too much?


Thanks for the suggestions. I'll have to do more thinking (dammit!).

Looks like those ultras have good enough software (from flash thing on tigerdirect). How is Opti-UPS's software?
I really don't need much from it though, just monitoring and automatic shutdown.
 
Just to add my 2 cents. I am a big fan of the Tripp-Lite SmartPro Series. The SMART1000LCD can usually be had in your price range.
 
ChingChang said:
hmm belkin one says "Simulated Sine Wave", I'm guessing that's another name for Modified Square Wave?
Sine Wave output would be great, but I think it would cost too much?
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Simulated Sine is just a modified Square Wave. It's certainly not the same as True Sine. But True Sine is certainly expensive.
 
So are there any risks using Modified Sine Wave output UPS's over Sine Wave? or any big disadvantages? I know Square Wave's can cause problems, is that mostly untrue for Modified Sine Wave?
 
I know that Delta makes the components in the Belkin 1000, 1200, and 1500va models. They also seem to make the rest of the Belkin line of ups units.

On the lower end models of belkin, the build quality is just about crap. I have the 1000va model of the enterprise ups that Belkin makes, build quality is about par with Apc and even the battery is changable on it also.

The software that Belkin can be just as annoying as a Lincoln Towncar telling you the door is ajar.

Tripplite make a great brand Ups and surge protector, I do also know you have to pay an arm and a leg for a True Sine-wave Ups also.
 
ChingChang said:
So are there any risks using Modified Sine Wave output UPS's over Sine Wave? or any big disadvantages? I know Square Wave's can cause problems, is that mostly untrue for Modified Sine Wave?
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Stepped Square Wave = Modified Sine Wave = Simulated Sine Wave

This only happens when on battery & only over a long period of time would it case a good PSU to overheat.

No big deal, unless you are "mission critical" and must run 24/7 regardless of anything.
 
davidhammock200 said:
Stepped Square Wave = Modified Sine Wave = Simulated Sine Wave

This only happens when on battery
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But doesn't an Online UPS always run off the battery? (similar to notebook PC)
 
ChingChang said:
But doesn't an Online UPS always run off the battery? (similar to notebook PC)
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No consumer UPS's run off the battery, unless there is something wrong with the AC voltage!

Automatic Voltage Regulation (AVR) still uses the power from the AC grid, it just adjust the voltage as required.

Hugh Industrial UPS, for the Fed Reserve & Wallstreet use true online UPS's, these are NOT consumer units! :rolleyes:
 
davidhammock200 said:
Hugh Industrial UPS, for the Fed Reserve & Wallstreet use true online UPS's, these are NOT consumer units! :rolleyes:
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The eye roll isn't neccesary dave a number of members here have scored Liebert GXT units on ebay for around 150-200 that are trueonline and are consumers and use them at home.
 
davidhammock200 said:
I have been using APC's forever & they have never failed me,
however you would want a "Smart" model with true sine wave output & they are not cheap.
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Not if you have a PCP&C PSU.
 
Spectre said:
The eye roll isn't neccesary dave a number of members here have scored Liebert GXT units on ebay for around 150-200 that are trueonline and are consumers and use them at home.
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Really! How much?
 
Also, Tripp-lite makes some Online UPSs that are well within typical consumer price range. I believe they have a 1000VA model for right around $350.
 
PCMusicGuy said:
Also, Tripp-lite makes some Online UPSs that are well within typical consumer price range. I believe they have a 1000VA model for right around $350.
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Yes you are correct the Tripp Lite SU1000XLa is usually around 350-375 in etail.
 
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