This ATI Card deserves recognition!!!

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The 1 gig ddr4 version of 2900xt is obviously meant to compete with NVIDIA’s top end cards.

Links:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103044 - 1 gig 2900xt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103036 - 512 2900xt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130079 - eVGA 8800GTX

How different are the two versions of the card? Are they worth comparing? One is priced much higher then the other. Is it just the amount of the ram? Does the high clock speed make it a much better card or is the difference negligible? Does the higher end version compare to the GTX in any benchmarks? If not, is it a driver issue or architecture? If anyone would answer my questions I’d be grateful.
 
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The specifications on the 1 gig gddr4 2900xt are much higher(particularly clock speed) then the 512 gddr3 version. It also seems to have better specifications then the GTX listed above; I haven't checked the ultra yet, however I think this card DESERVES to be reviewed and benchmarked by Hardocp! I'd really like to see some non biased bench marks on this card, not reviews by people with obvious card fetishism. As a final note this card is optimized for vista, so I'd like to see how it stacks up running on XP pro as well. Thanks!
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Speaking of biased with obvious card fetishism...
 
"This card is optimized for Vista!"

What exactly does that mean? Hardware doesn't get optimized for an OS.. drivers do.

People like you make me afraid for the future of our planet.
 
Dude, check previous posts on a topic before posting, it can save embarrassment.
Its a good idea to check some reviews first too!
 
This dude must be what's left of ATI's marketing department at work.

"Shit, they're on to me.. I NEED TO SAY I HAVE NVIDIA LOLOL"
 
Actually i am attempting to obtain information from other people more knowledgeable on a subject I don't know much about, however, you're not helping. I changed my subject matter to inquire more, does that make you discerning hardware guys more happy? Or am I still going to rebuked in prejudgment?
 
You posted the same shit in this other thread... I don't understand what you hopes to accomplish: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1225358

To answer your question... there are not really any situations where the 2900XT 512MB has been found to be memory limited... so do the math and deduce that the 1GB card isn't any faster. This phenomena is well known by people who keep up with this stuff.
 
the ddr 1g isnt going to save the 2900XT PERIOD! it will be a nice workstation card for openGL app, but it just wasnt built well.
 
Okay, but you said the 1 gig version isn't any faster, however the memory specifically IS much faster. The core clock speed also has increased between the two versions, but not significantly.
 
Decko87 said:
Okay, but you said the 1 gig version isn't any faster, however the memory specifically IS much faster. The core clock speed also has increased between the two versions, but not significantly.
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Look... unless the memory is the bottleneck (which it isn't) it's not going to be any faster overall, now is it?

If I put a Flowmaster exhaust system on my figurative Ford Pinto... does that help it go faster if my intake is my bottleneck?

This is simply an instance of turd-polishing... if your product lacks in a particular way, you try to make up for it in some other way that does not address the issue.

The core clock will obviously help, but then again it's not specific to the 1GB version, as you can overclock your 512 to the same levels (they use the same GPU... the same process size and have the same heat thresholds).

At the same time.. you can overclock a GTS just the same. And simultaneously, you can get an extremely overclocked 8800GTS 640 for the exact price of a non-overclocked 2900XT 512. So comparing the two overclocked versions isn't even valid.
 
Decko87 said:
Okay, but you said the 1 gig version isn't any faster, however the memory specifically IS much faster. The core clock speed also has increased between the two versions, but not significantly.
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Take a look here:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/12956

The HD 2900 XT 1 GB is not worth the hassle. It's marginally faster than the 512 MB version, while costing alot more. The use of GDDR4 basically only helps reducing the power consumption slightly, while performance is basically the same, with a minimal fps difference in games.
 
Decko87 said:
The 1 gig ddr4 version of 2900xt is obviously meant to compete with NVIDIA’s top end cards.

Links:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103044 - 1 gig 2900xt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103036 - 512 2900xt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130079 - eVGA 8800GTX

How different are the two versions of the card? Are they worth comparing? One is priced much higher then the other. Is it just the amount of the ram? Does the high clock speed make it a much better card or is the difference negligible? Does the higher end version compare to the GTX in any benchmarks? If not, is it a driver issue or architecture? If anyone would answer my questions I’d be grateful.
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Sr7 said:
Look... unless the memory is the bottleneck (which it isn't) it's not going to be any faster overall, now is it?

If I put a Flowmaster exhaust system on my figurative Ford Pinto... does that help it go faster if my intake is my bottleneck?

This is simply an instance of turd-polishing... if your product lacks in a particular way, you try to make up for it in some other way that does not address the issue.

The core clock will obviously help, but then again it's not specific to the 1GB version, as you can overclock your 512 to the same levels (they use the same GPU... the same process size and have the same heat thresholds).

At the same time.. you can overclock a GTS just the same. And simultaneously, you can get an extremely overclocked 8800GTS 640 for the exact price of a non-overclocked 2900XT 512. So comparing the two overclocked versions isn't even valid.
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And that's why this card isn't getting much attention. It's not much different than it's 512MB brother. The architecture is what's holding it back, not the memory or memory speed. Faster memory =/= better performance in this case.
 
I recognize it and choose to ignore the expensive 8800GTS competitor. :p
 
That card might challange the Quadro workstation/render farm card that nvidia makes but thats about all its doing.
 
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