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thinking about my first networking project

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im trying to get into this whole networking thing, i have been lurking the Netwroking & Security forum here for a long time now reading up on different things and answering easy questions i know.

Now i have been looking at that IPcop program and what it does, and it seems pretty cool i got alot of old spare computer parts so i could easily make a nice IPcop box i dont think i really need one i have a cable modem, linksys wireless router and 3 computers myself and my 2 roomates use. However i have been thinking building a little rig and installing IPcop and learning all the stuff you can do with it would be a nice little starter project?

any input on this or an idea for another project that would help me learn about networking?
 
What model is your current router? The added power draw of an ipcop isn't really worth it if you have a nice WRT54 w/ some other firmware on it. You'll need a switch as well with ipcop, and that old computer will need at least two, quality NICs. Using random-ass NICs in it will cause trouble.
 
AMD_Gamer said:
any input on this or an idea for another project that would help me learn about networking?
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Nothing wrong with learning....and "hands on experience" is one of the best ways to learn.....if not THE best way.

I'd say "build the IPCop rig"...and flip your Linksys router around to be used in pure access point mode. :cool:

I ran IPCop for a while ///looks over to right side of office...sees the IPCop computer still sitting there (lights out) with a Linksys wrt54g still on top of it.

Ran my wrt in AP mode...I still have it that way with my current router...running in AP mode with DD-WRT firmware.
 
movax said:
What model is your current router? The added power draw of an ipcop isn't really worth it if you have a nice WRT54 w/ some other firmware on it. You'll need a switch as well with ipcop, and that old computer will need at least two, quality NICs. Using random-ass NICs in it will cause trouble.
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i have the WRT54G as i said i dont actually need it but i got all the parts so it wont cost me anything just think it would be a cool little project,

also i could just turn off the wireless in the router and just use it as a 4 port switch correct?

and i have 3 extra nics laying around i could use they are just basic nics nothing special
 
YeOldeStonecat said:
Nothing wrong with learning....and "hands on experience" is one of the best ways to learn.....if not THE best way.

I'd say "build the IPCop rig"...and flip your Linksys router around to be used in pure access point mode. :cool:

I ran IPCop for a while ///looks over to right side of office...sees the IPCop computer still sitting there (lights out) with a Linksys wrt54g still on top of it.

Ran my wrt in AP mode...I still have it that way with my current router...running in AP mode with DD-WRT firmware.
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i was thinking about making the IPcop computer the router/DHCP and just using the 4 port switch on my wireless router as my switch, and it could also be an AP like you said, im prerrty sure this will work
 
AMD_Gamer said:
i was thinking about making the IPcop computer the router/DHCP and just using the 4 port switch on my wireless router as my switch, and it could also be an AP like you said, im prerrty sure this will work
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Yeah without a doubt it will work.
 
i got 3 old random nics im going to use along with my A7N8x and some other random hardware should be a pretty decent box

also would i be able to use a program like Ultra VNC to do stuff on the IPcop machine frm my main computer?
 
You just need 2x NICs..1x WAN, 1x LAN...
You can use 3x NICs..setup the second internal NIC for wireless...to keep it in a secure zone..separated from the LAN. Red (internet), blue and green zone. That might be useful in some business environments where you have "guests"....but for the home user...I don't see the need.

You admin the box through your web browser, like a regular broadband router, don't need a remote app like VNC.
 
YeOldeStonecat said:
You just need 2x NICs..1x WAN, 1x LAN...
You can use 3x NICs..setup the second internal NIC for wireless...to keep it in a secure zone..separated from the LAN. Red (internet), blue and green zone. That might be useful in some business environments where you have "guests"....but for the home user...I don't see the need.

You admin the box through your web browser, like a regular broadband router, don't need a remote app like VNC.
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could you have it running other programs like folding or any of that while its running ipcop?
 
Yeah, definately do it. Firming up the networking concepts alone is worth the time it'll take... And it's fun! Along with IP-Cop, Also look at Smoothwall (They are forks of each other) and once you are more familiar with the concepts load up m0n0wall for serious power users.

Just be aware that most cable internet providers lock your service to one device (MAC Address) Right now that's your router, or whatever Address you put into it if you used it's cloning feature. You'll have to call and/or re-register the new box.
 
Actually I'd say the majority of the cable ISPs...the modem just memorizes the MAC that was last connected to it. Simply powering off the modem for 10 minutes or so, will get it to "forget" that MAC. Power it up to the new device...BAM...all set. ;)

I haven't run across a cable ISP in my area that's done MAC registration upstream in a long long time.
 
Hmmm... InsightBB Cable here in the midwest has always done it and my experience with Comcast in Chicago and also in theTwin Cities also run like that. Maybe it's a midwest paranoia thing :D
 
Nope, Mediacom here in NE Iowa, and they dropped the MAC registration about a year ago.
 
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