thinkign of WoW...how much life is left?

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After 60 WoW becomes work, not a game. I wasn't willing to sacrifice the hours necessary to build up my character in raiding or PvP. I see that gaming is something that should be done when you have time to do it and it should be fun. It shouldn't be something that you schedule everyday nor should it be work that is boring and tedious. I can play Titan Quest for a half-an-hour and feel like I accomplished something and have fun too...
 
I play WoW because it's cheap and I have lots of free time. I recommend it if you have lots of free time too :p
 
Cheap ???
$40 + $15 a month is not cheap

6 million....even they got in trouble posting this .....they counted every test, beta and free acount and didn't quite make 6 million and refuse to say how many are actually paying and playing right now.

Some like GW but its been nerfed to hell and have changed their business model that they promiced when it started...how its rape priced expansions and more nerfs....lots of stuff just doesn't work.

how is WOW as far as changes to nerf drops and chr skills, its about every 1-2 months with GW.


sparks
 
They don't really nerf items in WoW, theres not much to nerf... the upgrade curve in this game is rediculously low, how ever they have been known to nerf smaller upgrade items (drops) that could impact lvling, such as the owl set.

Skills, they have some problems with skill sets, major one being the mage, i haven't played in a long time but i'm sure they must have gotten that one down by now

personally the only thing that saved the game for me was the skill set on the warlocks, theres a bajillion different ways you can set it to and be competent no matter what in alot of situations, i think by the time i quit i was up to 45gold for whiping my skills
 
sparks said:
Cheap ???
$40 + $15 a month is not cheap

6 million....even they got in trouble posting this .....they counted every test, beta and free acount and didn't quite make 6 million and refuse to say how many are actually paying and playing right now.
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This is total BS. Maybe you are thinking of another MMORPG. When Blizzard counted accounts, they didn't count Trials, cancelled accounts or other such things. Just accounts that are currently being paid for, arn't cancelled and are in game time (As in, the people are playing)

WoW still has lots of life. They open up new servers like monthly. In 1.12 they are not only adding cross-realm battlegrounds (meaning long wait times will be a thing of the past) but are also upgrading World PvP with some things (We don't know what yet, but it should be cool)
 
sparks said:
Cheap ???
$40 + $15 a month is not cheap
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It's cheap considering I havn't bought another game since I bought WoW. I used to buy at least one new game every month (50+ a month). Since I got WoW, that's the only game I play.
 
yeah they whole cheap or not thing again.

if you play a game a lot the cost is cheap for pay to play, if you only play a couple of hours a week it may not be worth it, last time i sat down and figured it out the total amount of money i spent on WoW and my total time played on all my toons it came out to around 25-30 cents an hour....you cant play in an arcade today for that little. bet some of my other guild members are around 10 cents an hour since some of them are fanatics :)

Compare that to other forms of entertainment and it is cheap. that comparison has nothing to do with the qualtiy of entertianment which is certianly subjective, only the cost. If you dont like the game fine but i cant see how anyone could consider a quarter an hour expensive, unless your a poor college student or something.
 
It is very cheap if you evaluate it in terms of how much entertainment you get per dollar. I mean 15/mo isn't that bad, you almost pay that much to see one movie that you only spend about 2 hours doing. Some people pay double that for a subscription to a porn site. People pay hunderds of dollars for cable TV per month, I mean I pay $150/mo for my cable package...

In the grand scheme of things when compared to other forms of entertainment it is very cheap.
 
Seelenlos said:
bet some of my other guild members are around 10 cents an hour since some of them are fanatics :)
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That's only 150 hours a month. Casuals! :D
 
i know some people with 100+ days played in the past 1.5 years. thats kinda like whoa.
 
Martyr said:
i know some people with 100+ days played in the past 1.5 years. thats kinda like whoa.
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Talk to people who are in the top endgame guilds for their server and ask them how many days /played they have on their main. 100 days is nothing.
 
well, i guess ill give it a try. the lvl cap is 60, so i dont suppose u have to "grind" a lot at all, besides quests and stuff.

and im only 16, so the kid factor wont bother me much :D

and about pvp and being raped by peopel with the best stuff, i dont know how many games u play, but that pretty much happens in anygame where it is possible.... :rolleyes:

well, i guess ill get the game anyway.....not like i have anything to loose. ill be playing for the same amount of time i normaly game for anyways, ill just have a new game :p ,
 
gamekid said:
well, i guess ill give it a try. the lvl cap is 60, so i dont suppose u have to "grind" a lot at all, besides quests and stuff.
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The grind doesn't start until level 60 actually. That's when you'll start grinding for reputation, rank, and gold hardcore.

and about pvp and being raped by peopel with the best stuff, i dont know how many games u play, but that pretty much happens in anygame where it is possible.... :rolleyes:
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It's particularly bad in WoW though. Here's the thing: item levels in WoW are what kills it. Throughout the normal game, you can only equip items that are maybe 5-10 levels higher at *most* than your character is (like, for example, a flurry axe is equippable at level 42 and is essentially a level 47 epic item). Once you get to 60, the item level of the epic stuff shoots up tremendously; level 75-80 stuff drops from BWL and level 80+ stuff drops from naxxramas. The gear divide is getting ridiculous..
 
As long as Wow can fools players that they need to get to level 70 then level 80 then level 90 then it will live.

MMO:s are building on a lie. You try to achieve something but then you get stronger and stronger but the game never ends. You never get to the cut scenes you stop play when you get to boored and cynical about the whole approach.

Also imagine if you play it for two years and then check how much money you have spent on the monthly fees.... Horror :eek:

I am currently running GTR. It´s been out for almost 2 years and all I spent on it is 40$....

Oh and 350$ on pedals.... 150$ on new wheels oh and 150$ on TrackIR ;) ;) ;).
 
gamekid said:
well, i guess ill give it a try. the lvl cap is 60, so i dont suppose u have to "grind" a lot at all, besides quests and stuff.

and im only 16, so the kid factor wont bother me much :D

and about pvp and being raped by peopel with the best stuff, i dont know how many games u play, but that pretty much happens in anygame where it is possible.... :rolleyes:

well, i guess ill get the game anyway.....not like i have anything to loose. ill be playing for the same amount of time i normaly game for anyways, ill just have a new game :p ,
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WOW to me feels like another job after level 15. Hell yeah you have to grind. That's all there is to the game. Or you can wait 3 hours for a battleground, which, you have to grind to be a decent level to even have fun in one.
 
oqvist said:
MMO:s are building on a lie. You try to achieve something but then you get stronger and stronger but the game never ends. You never get to the cut scenes you stop play when you get to boored and cynical about the whole approach.
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Ah. There you go. People will stop when they get bored. But by golly, some people aren't getting bored are they? At least Blizzard has built a game on a profitable lie.
 
templarknightx said:
Ah. There you go. People will stop when they get bored. But by golly, some people aren't getting bored are they? At least Blizzard has built a game on a profitable lie.
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Yes and I knew knew knew when I made that post that some will reply not reading the entire post :D.

Got you ;). This post as much as an joke as the last one ;)
 
WOW is a game that almost anyone can get into. Though as a game I feel it wasn't as good as it could be.

Reasons why not to play WOW.

#1 No matter how you look at it the game is made to waste your time. Everything from moving from point A to point B to making certain items.

#2 The quests are boring. If you played from level 1-10 then you've pretty much seen all the types of quests WOW has to offer. It's either go kill these things a certain amount of times or go kill them until they drop something a certain amount of times. There's the go kill this guy because he looked at me the wrong way quests.

Very few quests in WOW are unique and you'll find out why people call it a grind.

#3 Healing is boring. Seeing as how not many people role a priest to heal in WOW Blizzard made 3 hybrid classes that also heal. The druid, Shaman, and Paladin. The idea is that these classes are pigeon holed into healing once they hit level 60 and raid.

A lot of people who role a hybrid class and do end game find themselves rerolling to another class because no guild would let them do anything else but heal. A lot people put up with it but they usually end up disappearing.

The video that won in the video awards even showed how the Hybrid classes hate to heal in raids. Got to feel sorry for feral druids and Paladins.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7382497743921358869

#4 Nobody likes WOW end game. Like many people have told me they do it for the purples. It takes many tries and many hours of raiding an instance before a certain item you're looking for drops. Plus you'll find that many guilds end up having drama because some guilds do favor loot for certain classes. For this reason some people never choose to do end game. Though without end game at level 60 you've only seen have of the game.

The hybrid classes will always be last in getting loot since they are only there to buff and heal. Especially Paladins vs Warriors.

#5 No real story. Though that may not be true since there are lots of books around Azeroth that you can read. The stories are boring and some are in instances which your group doesn't give you the time to read them . If you're hoping for cut scenes and any voice acting then WOW doesn't have it.




Personally I cancelled my WOW account and I'm waiting for either Conan or Vangaurd.
 
sparks said:
Cheap ???
$40 + $15 a month is not cheap
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All depends on the comparison.

$80 for Collector's Edition, $13 a month at six month rate.

I went paintballing Saturday night. $5 admission, $110 for paint. I used about hafl of my paint, so let's say I spend $60 to paintball. Plus $7 for dinner and about 240 miles out of the tank I filled earlier that day for $40. So say... $22-$24 on gas?

Total for a night of paintballing, NOT counting thousands of dollars in equipment: approx. $90

Yeah, WoW is cheap.
 
Also, I used to be one of the bitter: "I quit WoW because it is a waste of time/life" people, but I've changed my stance.

I think it's all in what you play it for. If you play it to be the best, always a step ahead of everyone else, and always on the leading edge, then yes you WILL spends most of your time playing this game working towards those goals. If you are not willing to do that, don't even try.

I play because it entertains me and I have the time to do so. Any time I spend playing it is wasted--that's a given--but I am enjoying myself. I don't expect to spend 100% of my time in life being productive. Yes there are times where I'm working somewhat hard towards a goal in the game, but all because I enjoy it. I'd quit in a heartbeat if I had something better to do with my time that I enjoyed doing.
 
theres a lot of talk about wasteing time playing...well if u think about ti that was every time u play a game ur wasteing ur time.......

i personally beleieve their is nothing better to do...the area where i live in sucks.....nothing to do at all....so i play video games, but remember i am young and do not have many obligations.

i do not see myself playing video games on a NORMAL basis when i am 30+ years old. but for now i must because i need to waste my time somehow.


....and i have gotten the game...and i do not feel like their is much too it, i am lvl 12 and frankly...i have no guidence to what to do or where to go... the quests do suck. and since i have made some money i realized the rewards suck even more, my profs are mining and blacksmith, and i am in the lvl 90s for both and i need to lvl to around lvl 100-125 to get to do anythign else thats good.

i am only lvl 12 and i already hit a ceiling :eek:


the thign that is odd about WoW is that i have no urge to play the game like i normally have when i get new games, its just kind of there and i just play it type thing, like i have had the game for weeks
 
Martyr said:
i know some people with 100+ days played in the past 1.5 years. thats kinda like whoa.
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I did 165+ days in EQ from Apr 02 to Dec 03. I am so glad I got out of the whole online RPG thing, so much more free time.
 
gamekid said:
i do not see myself playing video games on a NORMAL basis when i am 30+ years old. but for now i must because i need to waste my time somehow.
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I'm 30+ and yes, I play way too much, but it's hot in the desert and going outside is not the greatest option;)

If you think about it, if WOW was too easy, would you bother playing it much at all?
 
gamekid said:
theres a lot of talk about wasteing time playing...well if u think about ti that was every time u play a game ur wasteing ur time.......

i personally beleieve their is nothing better to do...the area where i live in sucks.....nothing to do at all....so i play video games, but remember i am young and do not have many obligations.

i do not see myself playing video games on a NORMAL basis when i am 30+ years old. but for now i must because i need to waste my time somehow.


....and i have gotten the game...and i do not feel like their is much too it, i am lvl 12 and frankly...i have no guidence to what to do or where to go... the quests do suck. and since i have made some money i realized the rewards suck even more, my profs are mining and blacksmith, and i am in the lvl 90s for both and i need to lvl to around lvl 100-125 to get to do anythign else thats good.

i am only lvl 12 and i already hit a ceiling :eek:


the thign that is odd about WoW is that i have no urge to play the game like i normally have when i get new games, its just kind of there and i just play it type thing, like i have had the game for weeks
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oh where to start lol
 
gamekid said:
i do not see myself playing video games on a NORMAL basis when i am 30+ years old.
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Ouch.... Just... ouch....

Damn that made me feel old


You DO realize that the biggest majority of gamers are 18-35 right?
 
I know a few years back the average gamer was 28. I'm guessing that age is somewhere in 28-31 right now.

I was in a WoW guild with mostly 30+ on my first server, and they put me to shame as far as playing went. Sure I'd probably play more total hours, but since these people had their choice what to do with their time (many were married couples), they would attend almost every single raid. As in, 95 out of 105 raids. At 4 hours each, that's nearly 400 hours of end-game raiding. In that same time period, I partially or fully attended maybe 20 raids.
 
gamekid said:
....and i have gotten the game...and i do not feel like their is much too it, i am lvl 12 and frankly...i have no guidence to what to do or where to go... the quests do suck. and since i have made some money i realized the rewards suck even more, my profs are mining and blacksmith, and i am in the lvl 90s for both and i need to lvl to around lvl 100-125 to get to do anythign else thats good.
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Blacksmithing is WOW is worthless. It's mostly for a guild then it is for the person. The mats are expensive and to even make good items requires a guild with a huge guild bank. Leveling it to 300 will make you cry. Also I've also seen it good for Warriors even though Paladins wear plate they wouldn't want anything from BS at 60.

Drop it and get something else. Engineering is great for PVP and the guild will love you when you bring a repair bot to raids.

Also make sure to join a PVP server. The PVE servers are boring and full of noob players who lack skill. PVP is the same as PVE except when a horde walks by you can kill it.
 
No really not every game.

In racing and flight sims for example you benefit by every hour practise. What you learn there you can transfer to other sims or even the real deal. Virtual pool 3 the same deal. But of course this is simulations they may not count as games ;).
 
DukenukemX said:
Also make sure to join a PVP server. The PVE servers are boring and full of noob players who lack skill. PVP is the same as PVE except when a horde walks by you can die before you know what hit ya.
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Fixed that for you. :)
 
yes wow is a terrible waste of time......... but............i cant wait until 6:30 tonight when we go into aq and attempt cthun :)
 
Boardin087 said:
yes wow is a terrible waste of time......... but............i cant wait until 6:30 tonight when we go into aq and attempt cthun :)
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Myself and a few other [H] members here will be attempting Nef tonight, looking forward to it. :cool:
 
Raiding can be fun taking down bosses, but it takes way to much time. I've played till we took down Cthun. It was pretty stressful at times, and I relized whats the point it doesnt matter after you quit the game. So I just sold my game and account for some $$$. It's been really nice not playing the game.

The game has alot more life in it, If you can control your playing its pretty fun. I would not get this game if you're in school though, just for your own good.
 
I just attempted my first Naxx boss last night.
The new instance is interesting and challenging. Fun for a guild that has dropped MC, has BWL on farm and is || close to dropping c'thun.

However, I'm out soon. I won't get the expansion as I don't feel like grinding up to 70 and the game does take a lot of playtime, about 3 hours a night during the week of raiding. I've pretty much seen it all at this point and I'm glad to be getting new content from Naxx, but I don't have much more left in me. Also, I'm a priest, and what they say is true, priest burn out. Why? Because we're mostly heal geared and you can't do much heal spec'd or heal geared out, farming or pvp. I have some dmg blues, but it's not the same. My sole purpose in the game is to raid, not go out and kill some 60+ elites solo.

Is there still life left in WoW? Definitely, especially with the expansion coming out, new races, new profession (jewelcrafting can make some greens as good as high level blues) and new content as well as a raise in the level cap, yeah, it still has legs.
 
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