They don't call it a Fire Dragon for nothing!

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neisius

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I pulled this thing out of one of my g/f's dad's work computers. My only guess is that it didn't like the TNT2 that was in it...someone told me the newer boards aren't 100% compatible with older agp cards.

I swaped in a "free" motherboard from tigerdirect and it ran like a champ(well as good as a 1.8 can run)...but still waiting for my MIR :mad:
 
Nice.

Yes, older vid cards are 3.3 volt. If you read any new motherboard with an 8x AGP port's manual you will see a big fat warning right in the front for you to not use older 3.3v vid cards. Or you will end up with what we have here, a nicely toasted, crispy motherboard. :p
 
You'd think the MB manufacturers could do something to protect against that though, sheesh.
 
Stellar said:
Nice.

Yes, older vid cards are 3.3 volt. If you read any new motherboard with an 8x AGP port's manual you will see a big fat warning right in the front for you to not use older 3.3v vid cards. Or you will end up with what we have here, a nicely toasted, crispy motherboard. :p
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Actually, that very same warning goes for any Intel Pentium 4-based motherboard that uses any Intel chipset, even if its AGP slot supports only 4x AGP. (That P4I Fire Dragon used the Intel i845D chipset, whose AGP slot maxxed out at 4x AGP.

And not all 4x AGP cards ran on 1.5 Volts - in fact, some of the earliest 4x AGP cards required 3.3 Volts (IIRC, all of the TNT2-based video cards, even those with 4x AGP support, required 3.3 Volts, since that chipset was originally designed to be a 2x AGP-only part, and 4x AGP support was added on largely as an afterthought.)
 
Nice one, did it just fry, or was it due to a storm or something?
 
Zephix said:
You'd think the MB manufacturers could do something to protect against that though, sheesh.
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Yeh really. Glad this thing didn't burn the building down or something.
 
Now that's what I called burned in. :rolleyes:

Nice pic, and a good warning for those with older 3.3 v cards laying around.
 
The 3.3V AGP cards are keyed differenlty and will not fit a 1.5V slot. I had this problem at work. I have a 3.3V Matrox MGA 200 that I use as a test card. I tried putting it in a machine that wasn't getting video and the notches were different and the socket on the mainboard had a silkscreen warning against using anything other than 1.5v cards.

Now I know there are some AGP slots that will allow them to be installed. I think the AGP Pro socket on my Asus board will take them. Not sure though.
 
"Now that's what I called burned in." :D

Classic! It's almost like Voodoo or something........sorry......just had to say that.....I'll crawl back into my corner now. ;)
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
The 3.3V AGP cards are keyed differenlty and will not fit a 1.5V slot. I had this problem at work. I have a 3.3V Matrox MGA 200 that I use as a test card. I tried putting it in a machine that wasn't getting video and the notches were different and the socket on the mainboard had a silkscreen warning against using anything other than 1.5v cards.

Now I know there are some AGP slots that will allow them to be installed. I think the AGP Pro socket on my Asus board will take them. Not sure though.
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Not all motherboard manufacturers use keyed 4x AGP slots like they were supposed to on those Intel-chipset-based P4 motherboards. In order to save themselves money, many makers, such as Soyo, continued to use "universal", non-keyed AGP slots on even their Intel-chipset P4 motherboards - making it all too easy to install an older, 3.3V, 2x AGP card in those slots.
 
Ouch

Nothing like walking in that door, and smelling the smell of your heart hitting the floor. :p
 
Wow. Yeah, I hate Soyos, anyway. That is quite amusing in sad money being burnt sort of way.
 
Radeon 9200 should be alright with the Intel D875 mobo right? I'm scared to put it in now lol
 
Good to know, I probably wouldn't have thought twice about sticking an old 3.3v card into a 1.5v motherboard before reading this. :eek:

Did the system actually run with that card before self-destructing?
 
FiYoG said:
Did the system actually run with that card before self-destructing?
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Yeh I think he said it was running for a while and just went boom one day
 
That's why I recommend integrated video for office PCs (assuming the office isn't a CAD or hardcore design place).
 
Torquemada XP said:
That's why I recommend integrated video for office PCs (assuming the office isn't a CAD or hardcore design place).
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Yeh I made sure to get a replacement with integrated video...but he ended up taking it home to play games on so it's going to need a new vid card soon.
 
Heh, i've got some ideas for you. You can light the board on fire to give it that evenly toasted look, (and then video tape it and post it in this thread) or you can give me the cpu socket. that would rule.
 
SupaDupaNerd said:
Heh, i've got some ideas for you. You can light the board on fire to give it that evenly toasted look, (and then video tape it and post it in this thread) or you can give me the cpu socket. that would rule.
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I'm already going to strip it for parts :-P
 
ive got to ask, how loing was it running that video card before it went "pop" i also higly doubt it was video related my eperience with asus p4 boards is that they justdont turn on, and there is a warning led.
to be frank, id say its a pos soyo board problem, i have never had good luck with their boards. and the one time i had to call soyo about an rma dueto defective caps, they told me they never heard of such a clame and would no longer discuss the matter with me.
but yeah, how long was that card running in the system?
 
Morpheus256 said:
...my eperience with asus p4 boards is that they justdont turn on...how long was that card running in the system?
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I have no idea how long the system was running before it went boom. I just know it was sitting dead in his office for like a year.

It's funny that you mentioned asus. I had 3 asus socketA motherboards that we bought at the same time all die with in a month of eachother. They just slowly stoped turning on. And they ended up corrupting the harddrives too :mad:
 
Hmm, that kind of makes me worry about my file server. It's using a Soyo P4S Dragon Ultra (oh GOD it was the worst fucking motherboard I've ever used, took forever to get everything working... the onboard RAID bios wouldn't show up if you had a PCI card in the wrong slot for example), with an AGP ATI Rage128 out of some super old Pentium 2 computer. It works fine so far, for the month or so I've been running it... but I remember seeing all those warnings. What really sucks is that I can't use a PCI card, because the board doesn't work with any PCI video cards, despite the facts the cards work fine in other computers.

How likely is it that something like this could happen to me?
 
nice red x's , there Morpheus.

how bout reposting the pics so all of us can see the wonderfully burnt hardware ;)
 
Stellar said:
Nice.

Yes, older vid cards are 3.3 volt. If you read any new motherboard with an 8x AGP port's manual you will see a big fat warning right in the front for you to not use older 3.3v vid cards. Or you will end up with what we have here, a nicely toasted, crispy motherboard. :p
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If older video cards need 3.3V and new cards need 1.5V (assuming new mobos gives out 1.5V) how does it make the older ones burn?! :confused:
 
ciggy50 said:
nice red x's , there Morpheus.

how bout reposting the pics so all of us can see the wonderfully burnt hardware ;)
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Looks like my pic server just died :( all my porn :( :mad:
 
ycchan said:
If older video cards need 3.3V and new cards need 1.5V (assuming new mobos gives out 1.5V) how does it make the older ones burn?! :confused:
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Actually, you'll burn out the motherboard when you use a 3.3V video card in a slot that accepts only 1.5V video cards. Why? Because the higher-voltage video card will draw far too much current from the motherboard's power-related components, causing them to severely overheat.

On the other hand, using a 1.5V-only video card in a 3.3V-only slot will result in unstable operation, and may drastically shorten the useful life of the video card.
 
ciggy50 said:
nice red x's , there Morpheus.

how bout reposting the pics so all of us can see the wonderfully burnt hardware ;)
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i would if i posted the pics to begin with ;)
what part of bc are you in btw?
 
ciggy50 said:
nice red x's , there Morpheus.

how bout reposting the pics so all of us can see the wonderfully burnt hardware ;)
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Pics are back up. A [H]ard drive on my pic server took a dump :rolleyes:
 
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