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The smallest powerful Sats

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SoundBlaster

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what is the smallest(in size) satellites of PC speaker system that deliver the heighest possible power?
 
The smallest powerful sats I' ve seen is Creative Megaworks THX 2.1 250D sats with the power of 75 RMS watts for each.

what about your opinion Guys :confused:
 
Power is a function of amplifiers, not of speakers.

"...highest possible power."

What is your budget, what size of space are you looking to fill, and how close will you be to the speakers?
 
depends on what you class as power, what you want to be looking at is sensitivity vs wattage handling. those 2 together should give you a good reading for how many Db it can throw at you. but one question still remains

do you need it that loud?
 
Soundblaster:

You have three threads now that all ask essentially the same thing, so it begs the question: Why exactly are you so concerned about power handling on a set of CE speakers designed to fill a price point of 100-200$? If you need small speakers, you have to compromise. If you want things to stay cheap, you have to compromise.

These speakers aren't designed for auditoriums, but neither are they going to burst in flames if you turn them up too loud for a few minutes. Just play around with them and listen for any audible crackling, then turn them down until they stop misbehaving. It really shouldn't be much work to determine the maximum volume you can play your speakers at.
 
Thanks very much,

I just want to know the quality and performance rank of PC speaker system comparing it to home theater speaker from other company!

Can anyone explain what is the difference between PC speaker systems and Home Theater speaker systems? and which of these better in both quality and budget?
 
PC speakers tend to be of lesser quality due to the price of the intergrated amplifier and other electronics. It's kind of like the Klipsch ProMedia and the Logitech debate. Logitech incorperates expensive decoders and electronics into their high end systems, but skimp out on better drivers and materials. Klipsch does the opposite. Home theater speakers tend not to have any electronics onboard and this allows manufacturers to focus the cost on the drivers and enclosure materials.

I highly recommend bookshelf speakers insted of satellite speakers because of the increased bass response. If you could spare the room try looking into some Klipsch SB-1s. They have an awesome sensitivity at 92dB (1w @ 1m) and can handle 75 watts. Thats ~110dB per speaker! ~113dB for a pair! Four of those can put out ~117 dB and dip down to 50hz! Let's see a sat do that. And yes, they will run off a comp speaker amp just fine. Just remember that because these are 8 ohm speakers and everybody but Altec use 6 ohm amps on their computer systems (I think) u lose a bit of wattage per channel. They are discontinued and can be found cheap now. Look at vanns.com for them. They can usually be found for $119.99 a pair + shipping. (MSRP $249.99)

For satellite speakers you may wanna take a look at some Klispch Quintets ($249.88 for 5.1 set @ vanns.com) or if you can spare the cash the Klipsch Referance RSX series may be for you. (RSX-4 $149.99 each @ jr.com)
 
Thanks for these information,

I think the quality of PC speaker 100% depend on sound card, for example, if we compare creative Gigaworks 7.1 with home theater, Gigaworks will be better in 3D gaming and more specialized on games which can't be found on home theater systems.

Creative put more efforts to develop their PC speaker in gaming arena, and a little bit in movies, but it doesn't focus more on music listening.
 
So you are telling me the soundcard is gonna make the differance between my tiny Labtec speakers and my $350 ProMedia 5.1? I don't think so. It pretty much comes down to the quality of the components used in the speakers.

Hate to break it to ya, but gamming and movies pretty much go hand in hand when it comes to sound effects these days. They have very similar dynamic ranges. As long as you have an Nforce mobo with a soundstorm chipset, you can hook it up to an HT and have 5.1 all the time. Gotta love Dolby Digital Live chips... Anyways, the HT is always going to sound better if properly set up and adaquate for the size of the room it is used in. And when I mean HT, I don't mean the cheap $500 Sony-RCA-Panasonic toys. I mean the JBL-KLIPSCH-B&W stuff.
 
Modern onboard sound is more than adequate until you get up to really GOOD speakers. We can tell quite well how you feel from your handle, thanks for your opinion but sorry: you're wrong.

I'm not the audio fanatic alot of the guys in this forum are, and I probably know less than half about it as they do, but I can tell you one thing for dead sure.

* If you have a shitty output device, you're going to have shitty output, no matter how good your input device is.
* If you have a good output device, your output is going to look at least decent, even if you have a cheap input device.

Buy some good speakers. Then think about maybe upgrading your sound card. Unless you're a complete fricking audiophile, you'll probably be at least a little satisfied with onboard sound + good speakers. If you're not, you already know way more about the topic than I do and nothing I can say about it will be news to you anyway.
 
SoundBlaster said:
Thanks for these information,

I think the quality of PC speaker 100% depend on sound card, for example, if we compare creative Gigaworks 7.1 with home theater, Gigaworks will be better in 3D gaming and more specialized on games which can't be found on home theater systems.

Creative put more efforts to develop their PC speaker in gaming arena, and a little bit in movies, but it doesn't focus more on music listening.
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Movies are far more demanding than any videogame that I've played. Game soundtracks and effects, while being mixed better and better these days, come nowhere near the quality of any surround mix in a movie. Their dynamic range totally blows them out of the water also. Watching the incredibles at reference volume, I had anything from whispers and ambient sounds at ~60dB, to explosions at 116dB uncorrected, so probably close to 120. That's a 60dB dynamic range, about 30dB higher than most games I've played.

And yes, good sound cards don't really shine until you have the rest of the system of a higher caliber to back it up. It doesn't matter how big of an engine you put in a car if the drive train will warp as soon as you slam the accelerator.
 
Well you must be skipping out on games like doom3 and half life 2. I bet more time has been put into the sound of these games than in most blockbuster movies.
 
I'd disagree. While both had probably best-of-class sound performance, neither could touch any of the LotR:EE's, or plenty of other movies. A good DTS or even DD soundtrack can offer some really nice quality. Think a second over the budget each one would have. A game is made for 20million, at the very most. The three LotR movies cost 300 million+. Which do you think has more money tied up in sound production?
 
Movies is widely coming up, neither gaming, not every one play games, but the majority watch movies. If we compare audio card specification with high-end HT, is audio card deserve THX approval (like audigy2/4pro)?

For audiophiles, is PC audio range worth for them,
 
The smaller the speaker, the lower SPL. Also the lower the frequency response is, the lower the max wattage.

For a 2" speaker to take 75rms, they would have to be crossed over insanely high. 25, maybe, 10 definately fine....but to get 100hz out of a 2" the power handling is about 4-5w, and that is about -6Db on the 100Hz band. This is also with a perfect enclosure, which is anything but small. For a bosecube style enclosure, expect 125hz at the lowest, if that.

Logitech has the best sat drivers, if that's of any concern..BUT, they need a far larger enclosure and a notch filter to show their true abilities. I wouldn't be surprised if their old 3" units could do 100-20Khz, although with a rather weird SPL curve.

Myself, I would go with 4" or 5" bookshelf speakers, and a receiver...add a sub using speaker-level ins later if you want hard hitting bass.
 
THX certification is essentially meaningless, especially in the realm of PC equipment. It's a proprietary standard that is never actually explained, so nobody is really sure what it really entails.

PC audio is definitely not worthy of HT applications. I'd really like to see this change, but currently there are only a handful of solutions that I'd consider for HT usage. Honestly, if somebody produced a 500$ sound card with superlative DACs and perhaps I2S digital out, I'd buy that in a second, and I know a lot of HTPC enthusiasts would too. Shit, people buy Lynx2's for their HTPC's, and those cost a full thousand dollars.
 
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