The Problem With DRM Is The Name?

[Martyr]

this wont work at all. why? because dumb people know enough to ask their local nerd about things like this, and their local nerd fuckin hates everything these companies represent, and will says so quite explicitly.

 

[cjcox]

In the future (thanks to all of these folks... Sony, etc):

1. Media goes away. No more DVDs, no more CDs.

2. All media is pay-per-view, you cannot "own" content.

3. The ability to put media onto mp3 players, computers, etc. will not be possible.

and finally...

4. The MPAA and RIAA will die because of the death of online content providers that can't afford to pay their extortion fees.

5. A newer, free-er system will arise (with the normal attempt at trying to own it of course... but because of license, attempts will fail).

6. Longer term... celebrations will be held to commemorate the death of the MPAA and RIAA and lots of discussions on why forced enslavement is not a good solution to any problem.

Ok... 4,5,6 are possible an idealistic dream world.... but hey... I'm optimistic.

 

[hl3395]

I can see it now...

The average consumer does not seem to realise that HBO currently has a vast collection of digital media ready to be distributed. However, due to the lack of DCE, HBO cannot enable the consumers to view the digital content in fear of piracy. By enabling DCE consumer benefit from a greatly increased collection of digital content without fear of smelly, dirty pirates.
This is just the first step. In the future we plan to give away all digital content for free! Yes that's right, FREE! To enjoy the content, you simply purchase the DCE, which enables the enjoyment. That's like us giving away food and all you have to buy is the spoon! Wonderful, is it not? We think so. It's a win-win situation for consumers.
What's that? Hamburgers? You don't need a spoon for hamburgers? Hmm... I guess we'll have to take care of that.

rofl...

 

[Gorankar]

Ever considered that the "masses" understand it perfectly well and just don't give a shit? I'd suggest you don't be so elitist and dismissive.

Plenty of people like me out there. Do I like DRM technologies? No, not at all, really. Do I see them as having any appreciable impact on me? No, not at all really.

It's no big deal at all to me that I need a CSS decoder to play DVDs. The CSS encoding caused me a weensy, mild hiccup for all of about 5 seconds when it comes to making backup copies of my stuff, but you get that.

It's no biggie to me that iTunes, Zune or whatever else cruddy proprietary crap adds its own protections to stuff. They're not the only way to get hold of the content, and if a distribution system adds its own proprietary protections I simply don't use it. Nobody's compelled to have an iPod, for goodness sake. If I want portable music I rip my own CDs to whatever I'm using.

Are people worrying that one morning we'll wake up and find that all the CDs and whatever else have somehow disappeared, and that the only way we'll be able to obtain music is via some proprietary, protected download service which restricts us to only ever being able to play a song twice? Forget that. It ain't ever gonna happen.

The majority "catch on" all right. It doesn't really take long for people to find ways of getting around copy protection when copy protection is getting in the way of their perfectly above-board usage. Most of them simply accept the copy-protection as an inevitability in a commercial world, is all. They don't go jumping up and down about it all day, and getting themselves all flushed about it!

I'm really happy for you.. I'm truly glad that drm has impacted your life so little..
But, no, the majority do not catch on till they try to move their content from a broken ipod to some non Apple player.. They don't catch on til it actually stops them from doing something that they want to do.. They don't notice till they are the ones taking the high hard one.. And even then they often look in the wrong direction for the culprit.. I am not calling them stupid, I am just saying, that as a rule, they are apathetic and ill informed..

Elitist, hardly, a realist yes..
Come down off your own horse and take a good look around b4 calling me an elitist..

 

[LoneWolf]

Digital Consumer Entitlement....Riiiight.

And arms to the Contras back in the 80's were "goodwill gifts".

And garbage collectors are really "waste management artisans" (no offense to you garbage collectors out there )

And --it's not a bug. It's a feature.

 

[matrix563]

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Lets change some other terms in everyday use so that our lives seem more pleasant. Here are some recommendations:

Robbery: Dynamic Income Redistribution
Ignorance: Intellectual Resource Conservation
Greed: Automatic Self-Realization Process
Executive: Parasitic Human Simulacrum
HBO: Crap

LOL at executive

 

[Catweazle]

You are not looking ahead. Not long from now, all good content will be released exclusively with DRM attached.

Value judgement inherent here, and not one I'd necessarily agree with. Just what do you deem as "good content"?

Do you honestly think that, if people's usage is too severely impacted upon even for the mass-market 'popular' media content that people predominately obtain so they can be up to date with the latest water-cooler goss, that the public will continue to use it regardless? Yeah right! Copy-protections are and can only ever be a disincentive to casual piracy, rather than a complete protection. Should the protections put in place become too draconian the public response would result in a big dent in the bottom line. If following Hollywood and the Hit Parade ever became too much of an impost then other distractions would be sought by a lot of people.

Theoretically, if the entertainment industry was able to pull together an adopt a universal DRM standard which allowed for interoperability between devices, and it worked really well, and all the hardware manufacturers got on board and started producing compliant parts, would you have a problem with it?

Were that theoretical scenario to come to pass there'd be only one obstacle left to overcome. The fragility of the distribution media. So let's suppose that obstacle to be overcome also, and I could quite happily say "Nope. No problem at all!"

Under that scenario the only practical obstacle is to the person who wants to obtain the content without paying for it, and I have no real sympathy for those people.

this wont work at all. why? because 'dumb people' know enough to ask their 'local nerd' about things like this, and their 'local nerd' fuckin hates everything these companies represent, and will says so quite explicitly.

Added a couple of emphases because I really dislike the stereotyping, bit other than that I agree completely. Protection mechanisms are only good until they've been gotten around, and sooner or later they all get gotten around.

Come down off your own horse and take a good look around b4 calling me an elitist..

Back at ya! It's because of the 'stereotyping' comment above. I have a higher regard for "the masses" than to accept such condescending stereotyping. Most people using iPods, for example, actually catch on pretty damned quick that paid-for content can come at more of a cost than just the cents spent. Sure, that initial realisation will often come when fingers first get burnt. But calling people "apathetic and ill-informed" just because they've had fingers burnt is pretty damned rough, IMO. Just because a person is first encountering the situation where a digitial content file has inbuilt restrictions doesn't mean that they are "dumb".

It IS elitist to suggest such things.

 

[Gorankar]

^^^^^ Once again, I did not say they were dumb.. Apathetic and ill informed are hardly rough terms imho.. Perhaps I am too tainted by the number of years I have spent in retail sales of one variety or another to give the average Joe the benefit of the doubt anymore..

But anyway, we disagree, on just how much or little the "masses" realize what is happening bit by bit to their ability to use content they have purchased, in the way they would like.. Let's leave it at that..