The File Sharing Graveyard

Rich Tate

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We have seen many sites housing or pointing to pirated content come and go over the years. The big question is why do they keep appearing after many of their predecessors were sued into oblivion? Besides the obvious demand for them, perhaps the companies they exploit have something to do with it as well?

"Ironically, if the studios changed their business model, that would put Napster's progeny out of business," Charnley said. "If they offer something that's legal, easy to use and affordable…these sites are useless."
 
yup if it was afordable to buy hd movies online and actually own them that would be a plus and i would be all for it.. dvds and even hd-dvd/br are bothersome.. the disc scracth easy.

not to mention the intended goal of br is to implement the full br scheme if it wins.

the scheme.. simple.. buy movie for 49.99 (or there abouts) your get x number of viewings then after that you pay a license to watch the movie you bought in the first place. reason $$ the industry doesnt care about you or your rights, just plan cash, if they had they way you would pay a licensing fee to them every time you watched any movie, despite the fact you bought it in the first place.

I prefer hd-dvd u can have managed copies that will only play on the players you own.. personally i hope hd-dvd wins, first off the adult entertainment industry will never release br discs cause of the cost, so come on hd-dvd woohoo.

tho imho i believe that the download arean will win and hd-dvd and br will die a sad terrible death..

ps movie industry here is a thought, pay the actors less and you would make millions, i personally beleive no one is worth 10, 13, or 20 million per movie, no one is worth that much..
 
Copyright theft costs the film industry billions, according to the MPAA. In 2005, the top U.S. studios generated $23 billion in worldwide ticket sales but say they lost $2 billion, or 8 percent, to online piracy.

As we all know the loss-to-piracy number is inflated. How would they be able to give us an accurate estimate if they are unable to sue the people who allegedly stole this stuff...

Aside from that we all know that the number is going to keep getting bigger. As DRM prevents people from exercising their fair-use rights (such as running a home media server etc) more and more people will start looking to supplement their physical disc collection -which they aren't allowed to rip- with a hacked copy for the media server.
 
Imagine if they sold "torrent" movies at lets say $7.50/SD movie and $15/HD movie. Not only would the movies house make profit eliminating the middle man but they would also be using their own consumers to distribute the titles. I mean if apple can make the MP3 model work...why can't we do it for video?
 
Imagine if they sold "torrent" movies at lets say $7.50/SD movie and $15/HD movie. Not only would the movies house make profit eliminating the middle man but they would also be using their own consumers to distribute the titles. I mean if apple can make the MP3 model work...why can't we do it for video?

In order to make it work, the controlling factor has to want to change. Therein lies the problem.
 
yourmusic.com is a great example. Brand new CDs for 6.99 including shipping. (they are like 7.50 after tax). Why bother downloading when I can buy CDs for a reasonable price.

Unfortunately, they don't have everything available, they rarely get new releases until 6-8 months later, and it's a membership kind of thing where you have to buy one a month (but you get to choose).
 
We have seen many sites housing or pointing to pirated content come and go over the years. The big question is why after many of their predecessors were sued into oblivion?

I think they believe they can win a battle I believe they have already lost long ago.
 
I think they believe they can win a battle I believe they have already lost long ago.

I think they are just going to keep appearing, because they are trying to get monolithic Luddites to actually come into this century and get with the program. It's a new world, and the entertainment industry is trying to use their clout to outlaw all changes.
 
I want to have protection free, do whatever i want with the stuff and then i'll think about it. Thats what many people want is to have stuff that they can actually call theirs and not a rental of some piece of software or something. Everyone is evolving and the way business handles things isn't so consumers are finding better faster ways to get their needs. Businesses don't control the consumer, the consumer controls the business.
 
I think they are just going to keep appearing, because they are trying to get monolithic Luddites to actually come into this century and get with the program. It's a new world, and the entertainment industry is trying to use their clout to outlaw all changes.

Sorry, just realized how obscure my post was. I meant I think the entertainment industry has lost. I can't see how file sharing can be stopped in the near future. Even if all P2P traffic were blocked at the ISP level, I think someone would simply create another way for the masses to share.
 
Sorry, just realized how obscure my post was. I meant I think the entertainment industry has lost. I can't see how file sharing can be stopped in the near future. Even if all P2P traffic were blocked at the ISP level, I think someone would simply create another way for the masses to share.

Black market net? Could work...;)
Personally, I still say that everything in the world falls into one of two headings: stuff I own, and stuff I can't afford. There's no way on earth I'm gonna pay even $15 for a movie. I hate renting, and I'm not gonna pay for a "watch it x no of times" service. Just wait till it shows up in the $4 Blockbuster bin.
 
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