The " Big things come in small packages" contest

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belmicah

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Hey guys, just had a pretty damn good idea. Why don't we have a contest to see who can make the fastest, most productive pc, in the smallest form factor possible. We can set up a list of benchmarks to run, and you can run these benchmarks, measure the dimensions of your whole case, and then come up with a score by dividing the total benchmark score, by the total area of the case. Lets say my average score in the benchmarks was 1000 and I measured my case to be 3 ft ^2. So then my score would be 1000/9 = 111.11.

Now, we can do just gaming benchmarks, or we can do a whole slew of benchmarks like productivity, superpi, and soforth.

Let me know what you all think. I think this would be great to get people to showcase their small form factor powerhouse systems.
 
That just comes down to the person with the fattest wallet. Anyone with a 70k/yr job can make a 5,000$ SFF with a Conroe X6800 and 7950GX2/X1950XTX. Or even go back to 939 with the eVGA board and go dual 7950GX2 with an FX-62.

I say its more fair to have brackets for certain systems and see who can tweak theirs the best, etc.
 
I like the idea. I'd like to measure the SFF's in cubic inches or cubic centimeters for a more definitve number. Also, the actual benchmarks should be defined and links provided in your first post. I'd suggest only doing a couple of benchmarks (a couple that HardOCP uses maybe) such as Worldbench 5 and 3DMark06.

And then preformat a setup so peeps can copy/paste:

WB5=
3DMark06=

L=
W=
H=
Cubic centimeters (or inches?)=

Efficiency, WB5= (WB/cc)
Efficiency, 3DMark06= (3DMarks/cc)


Edit: And a system specs portion:
case=
mobo=
cpu=
video=
hsf=
hdd=
psu=
 
[LYL]Homer said:
I like the idea. I'd like to measure the SFF's in cubic inches or cubic centimeters for a more definitve number. Also, the actual benchmarks should be defined and links provided in your first post. I'd suggest only doing a couple of benchmarks (a couple that HardOCP uses maybe) such as Worldbench 5 and 3DMark06.

And then preformat a setup so peeps can copy/paste:

WB5=
3DMark06=

L=
W=
H=
Cubic centimeters (or inches?)=

Efficiency, WB5= (WB/cc)
Efficiency, 3DMark06= (3DMarks/cc)


Edit: And a system specs portion:
case=
mobo=
cpu=
video=
hsf=
hdd=
psu=
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Good idea really. Do we watn to use cc though? How are specs dimensions listed on web sites for cases? Inches?
Ok, for starters, let's just use 3DMark'06 (until someone who cares complains ehough).

Equation: (3DMark'06 score / Volume (in inches^3)) = Bang Ratio

edit-> we have since changed the volume to be in meters^3
 
belmicah said:
Good idea really. Do we watn to use cc though? How are specs dimensions listed on web sites for cases? Inches?

Equation: (3DMark'06 score / Volume (in inches^3)) = Bang Ratio
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That's right, centimeters are for communists :p. My SFF is far from powerhouse though :*(.
 
dworley said:





3DMark06 = 8432
eVGA NF-44: X2 4800+, 7900GTX SLI (Micro Fly / SG01-E / XFX / V300B)

3DMark06 = 5935
Shuttle SN21G5: X2 4200+, 7900GTX

3DMark06 = 7652
Shuttle SN26P: FX-60, 7800GTX SLI
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Ok, since it seems that the dimensions are listed in millimeters, let's just use the total volume in meters^3. This means to get your volume, use the dimensions (LxWxH) and divide that by 1000 (to get meters cubed).

Example: for dworley, his score would be:

{(8432/((263 mm (W) x 216 mm (H) x 393 mm (D)/1000)} = 0.377684

(those dimensions given on silverstone's website for the SG01_evolution)

So dworley's Bang Ratio is ~0.378 (a really nice score by the way)
 
SN21G5 Bang factor :
5935 / (310 x 185 x 200 /1000) = .517

SN26P Bang Factor:
7652 / (325 x 220 x 210 /1000) = .509

:D
 
Ok guys, I seemed to have made a mistake in my calculations. First convert mm to m, then calculate your Volume. Then, do your division.
Example: Say you have a case the same size as the one reviewed in HardOcp's Voodoo Hexx case. It's dimensions are 10" x 15" x 15". If I wanted to convert these inches to m the conversion factor is 0.0254 meters/inch. So we have 10" = 254 mm = .254m (just dividing by 1000), then our Volume is:

10" x 15" x 15" = (.254*.381*.381) = 0.03687 m^3

Ok, let's say that the system in the review scored 5000 in 3DMark'06 (not a bad guess with a 7900GT)

If that were the case the Bang Factor would be:

5000/0.03687 = 135,608.30

So I was wayy off to begin with. Let me update Kezmo's score of 6605.

Ok, he had a case with dimensions 263*216*393 in mm. This would be a volume of 0.02233 m^3... so Kezmo's Bang Factor would be:

6605/0.02233 = 295,849.5.

Much better then the Voodoo Hexx would've scored I think (based on a guess of 5000 for 3DMark'06)

Dworley's would be:

8432/0.02233 = 377,684

That puts him on our leaderboard. Anyone think they can beat this?!
 
OK, so using your new calculation - please use my SN21G5 numbers and see what it comes out to
 
OK your 3DMark06 = 5935
Shuttle SN21G5 has dimensions:

310(L) x 185(W) x 200(H) mm

So the Bang score is:

5935/ (.310*.185*.200) = 517,436.8 !!!!!

and your
3DMark06 = 7652
Shuttle SN26P: FX-60, 7800GTX SLI

score: 509,623.7

Very impressive on that SN21G5 Score!
 
My SN25P scores 3694 (link )

4200+ @ 2.6ghz
2gb XMS
6600GT

3694 / (.325 x .220 x .210) = 246, 021

Edit: blah, just noticed this is with 3DMark05! Will retest soon.
 
belmicah said:
Ok, since it seems that the dimensions are listed in millimeters, let's just use the total volume in meters^3. This means to get your volume, use the dimensions (LxWxH) and divide that by 1000 (to get meters cubed).
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Only for those Commie Shuttle cases! Use inches. Most of us are in America :cool:

I agree with Dillusion. Size doesn't matter! But for arguments sake my Dothan 1.7 @ 2.26 miniITX/low-pro custom cased carputer would probably whip most PCs in a general performance test. Fact is, I spent a fair amount of money just to keep boot times down and that is about the only thing I could throw at the problem. It's about 150 cubic inches.
 
Have you run 3DMark'06 so we can get a score for you? Or are you saying you're too cool for school?

What are the dimensions of your custom case?
 
Id like to be part of this contest.. I think i might be able to take it....
the only prb is i have 56k... so will take a while to dl 3d mark...
Ill post again soon with scores...
Yeeee HAA


AA man
 
belmicah said:
Have you run 3DMark'06 so we can get a score for you? Or are you saying you're too cool for school?

What are the dimensions of your custom case?
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I be sayin' it's a pointless comparison that I could not be arsed to do and 3D06 is only a good judge of your graphics card.

Case is about 7 x 7 x 3. Dothan rig would kill my X-Qpack in these tests, but that does not necessarily make it better. The size is only useful for what it is made to do. Both are easily portable and both are great for their designed environments.

The highest performing rig would probably be a custom miniITX board with a 7950 GX2, depending on what tests you want to run it through.
 
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