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The Best Heat Paste

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paw64

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What Thermal Interface Matteral should I use?
Im looking for somethig with the highest thermal conductivty, and the longest life span.
 
paw64 said:
What Thermal Interface Matteral should I use?
Im looking for somethig with the highest thermal conductivty, and the longest life span.
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Arctic Silver 5 has been my choice for the last couple of years.

--Phrostbit
 
Phrostbit said:
Arctic Silver 5 has been my choice for the last couple of years.

--Phrostbit
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Same, I believe it is the best. A lot of people think so too..
 
someone inevitably will also pop in to say ceramique. and someone else is gonna say it doesn't matter, as long as the paste is properly applied there will b a 1-2C difference max. so ill say it for them.
 
But doesn’t Artic Silver 5 brake down over time? And after being worked out of a joint, it won’t reflow back in. What do they use in the industry?
 
paw64 said:
But doesn’t Artic Silver 5 brake down over time? And after being worked out of a joint, it won’t reflow back in. What do they use in the industry?
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AS5 is the best there is, bar none.
 
Arctic Silver 5 vote. I saw 4-5C temp reduction in an OEM Compaq w/1.53 athlon, no other changes. nuff said.
 
Like the guy said a couple of posts up, I have used everything Arctic Silver (when there was no AS5), radio shack thermal paste, ceramique, I even thought about using desitin one time when I was out of thermal paste. I don't think they will make much of a difference in the overclock although some will run a couple of degrees cooler than others. Anyway I only had Arctic Silver One and Ceramique in my grab bag of computer stuff when I installed the CPU in my sig and I chose the Ceramique instead of buying more AS5 because the difference in overclocking is in my opinion, negligible.
 
TruthSeeker said:
*snip snip*... I chose the Ceramique instead of buying more AS5 because the difference in overclocking is in my opinion, negligible.
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exactly. if your temps are so high that the few degrees C that might change would be the difference between being under the temp threshold of ur cpu and being over, you're already running too hot anyways.
 
What about Shin Etsu X23-7783D thermal paste? I ordered this off ebay and is supposedly amd approved.
 
I have used Artic Silver since AS3, however about 4 months ago I switched to Ceramique for a few reasons. 1st Ceramique is easier to work with, it cleans up better and it is not a sticky. Any one who has had a processor pull right out of the socket when removing a heat sink knows what I mean. AS5 can become glue like after time, I have even heard of heat spreaders or cores coming off. 2nd AS5 is conductive; people have fried components by getting it on contacts, their fault but still a concern. And some tests show Ceramique performing just as good.
 
Lothar said:
Any one who has had a processor pull right out of the socket when removing a heat sink knows what I mean. AS5 can become glue like after time, I have even heard of heat spreaders or cores coming off.
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Holy crap, that happened to me the other day when I was removing my Zalman HSF off my p4 2.5gHZ. Thought I was the only one person had this happen, now I don't feel so bad. On a side note, this month's Maximum PC had a small comparision on thermal paste and the conclusion was, they were all pretty much even cept for some copper FrozenCPU paste. That did the worst. Their advise was as long as you some sort of thermal paste, you should be fine.
 
With as5, you have to burn your cpu for a few minutes with the fans on low, Immediately remove the HS clamps and carefully move back and forth the hs to remove it from. If it still doesn't come off then turn your computer on a few times for ~6 seconds each after your have unfastened the hs clamps. This will warm up the IHS enough to loosen the ac5. I've done this several times and it takes at least 15 seconds of continuous power before the cpu starts going to about 50c.
I haven't tried my shinetsu pasted yet but it looks nice. I probably won't be able to get a good idea of how well as I'm going to be comparing a totally new mb along with the stock 170 hs compared to what I had on it before (xp-90).
 
I'm going to be different. I use Shin Etsu X23-7783D myself. Yes it's a little harder to apply than AS5, and can take as long as 200 hours to fully break in, but it always gives me about 2C lower temps than AS5, it doesn't "glue-up" like AS5 does and finally it's non-conductive.
 
AS5 all the way. I got some stuff from aerocool that came with a HSF a few weeks ago, its like AS5 but not as thick. Anyone try this stuff yet?
 
Non-conductive (no shorted processors)
Non-sticky (no pulling cpus out of their sockets removing the heatsink)
Same performance as AS5

Shin Etsu! (Now I only wish the stuff was easier to get)

I like AS5 but for the same basic performance, slightly harder application, and better chance of avoiding a big 'oops!' the Shin Etsu pulls slightly ahead for me.
 
I use ceramique. I think its performance degrades over time though and a fresh application once every 6 months or so is needed.
 
I've collected some information this new LIQUID METAL thermal compound over here

- Arctic Cooling MX1
- Arctic Silver AS 5
- Arctic Silver Ceramique
- Coolermaster CM Premium (Ptk-001) (also known as SHIN ETSUUUUUUU)
- Titanium Nano Blue
- Coollaboratories liquid metal

you will be surprised which one comes out on top (also scroll down the thread more reviews) and some nice pictures of what happens when you use the liquid metal on a ALU heatsink.


what's this I read about degradation of performance after only 6 months with Arctic Silver 5/Ceramique? do you have PROOF of that:)
 
bangforthebuck is right AS5 and cerimique have a 1c difference (cerimique is 1C lower) I used to use AS5 on everything and just cause i want max cooling performance 1 degree helps i guess so now i just use ceramique....

plus its not conductive....
 
I use artic Ceramic and the stuff is very good. I have now pulled my processor out of the socket twice! I installed it into thew wifes new system to test it and the proc came out with the heatsink! BTW this was a rice sized bit in the middle of an Athlon64 3200+ Stock heatsink with the gunk form AMD removed. Then I pulled the heatsink/proc again when I installed my water cooling system like in my sig. :)
 
paw64 said:
But doesn’t Artic Silver 5 brake down over time? And after being worked out of a joint, it won’t reflow back in. What do they use in the industry?
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Im gonna sya no :p I took my HSF off a bit ago and rubbed off some AS5 on the stepping area for (cf)eclipse and couldnt find my AS5 to reapply afterwards and lvied with bad temps for a bit, a while ago i took a razor from a pencil sharpener, piled the almost year odl AS5 in to the center and my temps have NEVER been better. 39 idle at 1.6V winnie 3000+ at 2.4ghz. (i run it at 1.5 though, 1.6 was just for an idle reading
 
For cpu's AS5 however for everything else ceramique due to it being non-conductive.
 
I've collected some information this new LIQUID METAL thermal compound over here
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that stuff was tested on a system, which imo doesn't provide accurate results.

for a good comparison see dan's data where he uses a pile of different ones, plus toothpaste and vegemite.
 
Question is how ofen are you planning on changing cpu's, hratsinks, etc,etc.

I've used the cheap stuff that comes with heatsinks and I've used stuff like Geil and AS Ceramique. Seiously there isn't that much of a BIG difference. The fact of the matter is I will not again, if possible, use anything else but Ceramique. It is easy to clean. Easy to use and place and it works just as good as anything else out there.

The other stuff is soooo messy I hate it. Even if everyting else cooled a couple degrees cooler I would still use Ceramique.

AS has a new Lumique or something like that... like Ceramique but no break in time. Haven't found anywhere though.

After seeing those liquid metal pics I would not use that at all!!! LOL
 
How much of a difference is there between AS2 and AS5? I got a tube of AS2 a long time ago and never ended up using it but my other stuff ran out so now I am but I don't know how much worse it is than AS5.
 
I was FORCED to buy Artic Ceramique because Newegg was out of AS5. Yeah. I'm happy with it though. My temps seem normal.
 
bubsie said:
Holy crap, that happened to me the other day when I was removing my Zalman HSF off my p4 2.5gHZ. Thought I was the only one person had this happen, now I don't feel so bad. On a side note, this month's Maximum PC had a small comparision on thermal paste and the conclusion was, they were all pretty much even cept for some copper FrozenCPU paste. That did the worst. Their advise was as long as you some sort of thermal paste, you should be fine.
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Wow, this just happened to me to... :eek: Pulled off the stock heatsink(stock thermal pad) and the CPU was glued to it! :eek: This happened agian when I used AS Cerimique to... I just Stared at it. :eek:

Mobo or Heatsink must be screwed up, not quite sure what..
 
qdemn7 said:
I'm going to be different. I use Shin Etsu X23-7783D myself. Yes it's a little harder to apply than AS5, and can take as long as 200 hours to fully break in, but it always gives me about 2C lower temps than AS5, it doesn't "glue-up" like AS5 does and finally it's non-conductive.
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yep yep! i agree
 
qdemn7 said:
I'm going to be different. I use Shin Etsu X23-7783D myself. Yes it's a little harder to apply than AS5, and can take as long as 200 hours to fully break in, but it always gives me about 2C lower temps than AS5, it doesn't "glue-up" like AS5 does and finally it's non-conductive.
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boardsportsrule said:
yep yep! i agree
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Yes ......... me too. :D

It may not be this way for everyone, but I get slightly better temps with Shin Etsu X23-7783D
than with AS5. And I am not the only one.

As was mentioned earlier SE takes a more refined technique to apply than the popular AS5.
But the SE is easier to clean and is less likely to create that suction effect.

If you were frustrated applying Shin Etsu G-751 in the past, the new X23-7783D may be for
you. Better thermal efficiency and evaporative chemicals which make it easier to apply.

BTW ..... if you are having trouble finding Shin Etsu in your area look here* . International shipment = yes.

( NOTE : this poster has no affiliation with Shin Etsu or the seller above )
 
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