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You're surprised?
http://youtu.be/CI5xnkLk8IA
check out part two flyer more lawl. it's embarrassing.
for, not "flyer"...
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You're surprised?
http://youtu.be/CI5xnkLk8IA
check out part two flyer more lawl. it's embarrassing.
The iPad is a lot different situation, at least to me. I've long been a tablet fan and pretty much figured that the iPad would do well. It did better than I expected however in recent times I think it's current price and limitations have capped it's growth.
Having a touch based mobile computer to read on or surface the web on or take notes all is readily obvious functions for a general purpose tablet. Not really sure what the readily obvious functions are for a smartwatch that requires a smartphone in the first place.
What's holding them back a tad is they control their own market. No-one else can make first tier products for their ecosystem. They could come up with a Surface3 like convertible laptop for their users - but they won't. Why? Because they want you to own both. They aren't competing with themselves in their own ecosystem.
Flip it to Microsoft/Google and the mass amount of first tier product makers drives a competitive innovation race. Every 6-12months someone tries to one up the other.
This is why I think they get surpassed. Yes, they're great when they are first out of the gate to get the indoctrination / loyalty. But they fumbled the Watch and are already 3 generations behind other companies. Heck, I think MS properly identified the market for smart watches with their health based band. They didn't go smartwatch, they entered a thriving market with a nice device.
average aging hipster liberal douche leftist
I don't know any true techie who thinks apple stuff is the best at anything.
Step 4: Give it to average aging hipster liberal douche leftist press that will do all your marketing for you.
I would be embarrassed to wear one of these for just that reason. I'm not one of those, but i know people who saw me wearing an Apple Smartwatch would be thinking i was. I know i'm going to be thinking that's what anybody wearing one is.
Apple has a knack of making significant refinements to existing products and making them highly desirable to the mass market, the latest example of that being the iPad which revolutionized tablets.
I don't think that's going to happen in this case.
To call the iPhone anything other than paradigm shifting for the market is disingenuous at best.
Yes, PDA's and phones that could do 'smart' things existed before then, and yes, Apple didnt really do anything with the iPhone that hadnt been done before. But it sure as hell put it together, packaged it, and made the experience better than anyone else did, and made their competitors do almost total 180's in how they approached the market.
To not call that a huge achievement and worthy of praise is absurd.
But thats the iPhone. This thing aint the iPhone. I dont actually know anyone even interested in this. Im VERY curious to see how sales go.
Ya, the only way IMO this would even make sense from a pure conceptual standpoint, is if it replaced your phone.In my opinion, the dire battery life is the big killer here. Well, that and the minor detail that my phone runs Android. Also, the fact that I haven't worn a watch in over a decade.
No one thinks that except for the people on this forum projecting what they think about Apple users onto Apple users.Agreed, for all the hate, they have a good track record of combining existing technology into a better, more polished and attractive package that is more mass-market friendly. That's what they're good at - you can call that innovation in a way, but they're absolutely not the core inventors of 99.9% of this technology like their blind follower think.
I mean, you guys totally "invented" these insults. Completely original, no one's heard them before
congratulations?
how so?Just pointing out that you we're stereotyping as well.
Just like liberals, Apple fans don't respond well to getting their buttons pushed, vehemently push their opinion on folks, then demean others when they don't get their way. I think his point was absolutely relevant.One can always count on the the ducky69 to find a political slant in something that has nothing to do with politics.
Just like liberals, Apple fans don't respond well to getting their buttons pushed, vehemently push their opinion on folks, then demean others when they don't get their way. I think his point was absolutely relevant.
how so?
Just like liberals, Apple fans don't respond well to getting their buttons pushed, vehemently push their opinion on folks, then demean others when they don't get their way. I think his point was absolutely relevant.
Just like liberals, Apple fans don't respond well to getting their buttons pushed, vehemently push their opinion on folks, then demean others when they don't get their way. I think his point was absolutely relevant.
Yes, it absolutely shifted paradigms and engaged sexy technologies with the convergence of bleeding-edge holistic and innovative turn-key solutions that recontextualized dynamic architecture to cultivate revolutionary platforms.
Ya, the only way IMO this would even make sense from a pure conceptual standpoint, is if it replaced your phone.
But it can't do that with this product, you can't comfortably wear a large enough LCD on your wrist, speakerphone is annoying to people and hardly anyone wears bluetooth earpieces anymore (except in the hood, whats up with that? everyone in the ghetto by me has a earpiece lol!), and if you make it easily dockable so you can take it out to browse the web and play games and use it as a GPS like you do your phone then there's a higher chance of dropping something that small. It just really doesn't make sense to me, and just ends up being a redundant device that you have to remember to keep charged.
To call the iPhone anything other than paradigm shifting for the market is disingenuous at best.
Yes, PDA's and phones that could do 'smart' things existed before then, and yes, Apple didnt really do anything with the iPhone that hadnt been done before. But it sure as hell put it together, packaged it, and made the experience better than anyone else did, and made their competitors do almost total 180's in how they approached the market.
To not call that a huge achievement and worthy of praise is absurd.
But thats the iPhone. This thing aint the iPhone. I dont actually know anyone even interested in this. Im VERY curious to see how sales go.
surprisingly, no one remembers market turdsLG prada released 6 months before the iphone did and looked pretty much exactly the same. Yet you and most people conveniently forget this thing existed. And the media whom all were ipod / apple fans thought it better to sweep it under the rug. Just the same as how apple pretty much copied archos for the ipod and the ipad and you can barely find a person who knows about those products.
-- http://gizmodo.com/261172/settling-this-iphone-vs-lg-prada-nonsense (shortly before the iPhone released)iPhone wins. Here's why:
The LG is smaller, sure. It's a better size, for an un-smartphone.It's the nicest LG I've ever seen. But it often uses it's touchscreen to boring effect. There is no interface advantage here. You touch buttons on screen to scroll and click around, much like a Palm or WM6 Phone. The menu design itself is similar to that on any high end LG phone, like, say the Shine. The 3-inch diagonal comes in useful as the entirety of it becomes a viewfinder in camera mode. The touchscreen let's you drag the home screen's clock around, and that fishy in the photo above is actually "touchable". And it ships with some touchscreen games. But generally speaking, it operates just like a regular phone. No revolutionary usage models here, either.
The iPhone uses it's touchscreen to zoom photos and webpages, flick scroll through long lists. iPhone has all the iTunes and data syncing integration built in, and the neato factor of coverflow. iPhone has networked widget compatibility for weather, stocks (yawn), and who knows what else is coming down the line. The Prada's sync software is rudimentary, allowing you to transfer contacts and calendar appointments. The Prada does have 3G, although that may be in Europe only flavors, while the iPhone only has EDGE and WiFi. (Since this is an import phone for the foreseeable future, it's likely.) The LG's 3-inch screen is 240 x 400. The Apple's is 3.5 inches, at 320 x 480. 8GB vs whatever you can fit into the LG's few megs of internal mem, plus the microSD slot. The browser sucks on the LG phone. LG phone has the advantage of being able to run J2ME progs. And has SMS and IM, which IMO are very obvious things that the iPhone should have. (Firmware!)
The Prada would be a good phone, the nicest non-business user touchscreen phone, I can think of at the moment. But at $700-850 bucks, it's just way too expensive. The iPhone isn't perfect, but the amount of innovation it has pushes it into another class. This is a really stupid comparison: iPhone wins. (The better comparison is iPhone to Helio Ocean of N95. Brian Lam
LG prada released 6 months before the iphone did and looked pretty much exactly the same. Yet you and most people conveniently forget this thing existed. And the media whom all were ipod / apple fans thought it better to sweep it under the rug. Just the same as how apple pretty much copied archos for the ipod and the ipad and you can barely find a person who knows about those products.
I don't think the post you quoted was at all citing product originality or being first to market with something. Often industry leaders aren't the companies that bring the product to the shelves the soonest. The point being made is that sales demonstrated that the iPhone was what people wanted to purchase. If the consumer had been interested in an LG product, then [H] users would be busy accusing people who buy LG phones as being hipsters or communists or whatever else instead of people who buy Apple stuff. It's a competitive market and consumers spoke their mind though their purchases.
The watch is dead. We've already got Watch 2.0 -- it's called the smartphone. Who really wants a stamp-sized screen, and then strapped immovable to an appendage like medieval times?
It's a bunch of industry mouth-breathing that's gotten impatient without Jobs' divine touch rolling out the next big thing in recent years. The smart-watch is the fat kid leftover in the dodgeball lineup, so they grabbed him in desperation, tried polishing him up a bit, and are now trying to throw him back into the arena to a thunderous blasting of "The Final Countdown". But no one's fooled (or should be).
It's something out of a Ben Stiller movie, or something.
Perhaps real watches for the common slob are dead. I'm perfectly fine watching the garbage most people call watches disappear and they become symbols of the more educated and refined again. You are right though, smart watches are nothing but a desperate grab at a market that doesn't exist and only appeals to those with zero sense of taste or style.
One can always count on the the ducky69 to find a political slant in something that has nothing to do with politics.
The watch is dead. We've already got Watch 2.0 -- it's called the smartphone. Who really wants a stamp-sized screen, and then strapped immovable to an appendage like medieval times?
It's a bunch of industry mouth-breathing that's gotten impatient without Jobs' divine touch rolling out the next big thing in recent years. The smart-watch is the fat kid leftover in the dodgeball lineup, so they grabbed him in desperation, tried polishing him up a bit, and are now trying to throw him back into the arena to a thunderous blasting of "The Final Countdown". But no one's fooled (or should be).
It's something out of a Ben Stiller movie, or something.
Ridiculous... The Apple Watch is going to do exactly what all other first gen Apple products do, completely change the category its launched in and become the defacto standard.
They are going to sell millions, its going to inspire almost all tech companies to release wearable tech. The reviews are absurd... Same clickbait they had at the iPad launch.
Remember the iPad launch everyone universally hated it... looking back its easy to see the iPad changed the landscape and set the standard.
There is a reason Apple is as popular as they are, because they do shit right, they put more care into every nook and cranny of their products than everyone else.
People are gonna hate on them because they want to be "different" now that Apple is the richest company in the world...
Bring the hate now.
what am I supposed to be thinking about?It was pretty implied, people cite apple for being fist with a full touch screen phone and capacitive, if you ask common people everywhere that is exactly what they will tell you is so great about the iphone. Yet it was false. You almost never hear any of these people EVER saying shit like oh yeah I compared the prada and the iphone and preferred the iphone for this or that. Same with archos products. The only revolution apple brought to the table was a marketing presence the likes of which none of these other companies could do, and the reason? It was because the marketing industry was loaded with closeted mactards who all used macs and they were waiting for any day for apple to make a comeback and then they would give it massive unwarranted publicity. And prior to the ipod they tried many times to make apple a hit. I remember all the way back the fruity macs that everyone remembers but no one bought (think about that mope) how apple would constantly get way more publicity than a company of that size and market presence ever warranted. It was constant, companies 3x their size would get no coverage on anything they did and the same holds true today.
Well... it was mostly a joke, but since you brought it up....I don't think those sorts of reactions to criticisms are in any way limited to a certain political party or acknowledge barriers related to the branding of a product someone purchases. In fact, they're purely human traits that are exhibited everywhere. Categorizing them as the domain of a specific group of people be it related to politics or a brand of consumer electronics demonstrates a very narrow perspective, a lack of understanding of human psychology, and set of personal biases that evokes emotions that override reason and inhibit the ability to think critically. It's about the same as a girl in school flipping out and looking disgusted over someone that had the nerve to wear GAP instead of Ambercrombie & Fitch (and shows about the same level of maturity too).
This is why we're doomed; you're literally doing what you're claiming "liberals" do in the same breath. 2 sides of the same coin.
Because everyone besides liberals and Apple fans respond well to criticism. /s
What I have also noticed is that iPhone vs Android debates seem to trend along the same lines. I can almost 100% reliably ask that person, at the end of the discussion, if they are a liberal. They would be.