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Whipsmack

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I went to alienware to check out some nifty PC's and came across a cheaper computer that had ONBOARD VIDEO!!!???

Alienware + onboard video??? OMG what is dell doing?
 
whats the onboard video?

Both nvidia (6100) and ati's (x200/300) onboard offerings are actually useable for games from 2001-2005.

I doubt they are using SiS, Via, or Intel onboard solutions which have never been usable for games.
 
I dunno I just saw integrated video and wanted to cry. What I really hate, is when building from one of the cheaper systems they never give you an option for a really good video card...why the heck not? I have to buy their super expensive systems to get a good video card?

Bahh
 
Alienware was never an enthusiast gamer's rig of choice. IMO, its marketing made people believe throwing loads of money at a system would make you an enthusiast gamer. Dell's acquisition wasn't necessarily a bad thing. Basically, Alienware = Crap for > $$$. Dell = crap for < $$$. Dell + Alienware = crap for decent $$$. Anyway, I'm sure onboard video isn't that bad because you didn't pay for a crap video card for > $$$. You can just head over to Dell.com and buy a crap pny 7600gt for < $$$ (about $120 AR).
 
Whipsmack said:
I dunno I just saw integrated video and wanted to cry. What I really hate, is when building from one of the cheaper systems they never give you an option for a really good video card...why the heck not? I have to buy their super expensive systems to get a good video card?

Bahh
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i think its to sell more powerful systems to the illiterate.

I mean from a marketing perspective why not?

Buy the base cheap ass model for 799... make it seem like you can't upgrade, make it seem like you are limiting yourself.

You have to remember that companies are interested in making money, not providing intelligent options to consumers.
 
not true :p look at velocity micro :p

a lot of the reasons system builders wouldnt put in the uber graphics cards (atleast how i see it) is that chances are, fi you wanted uber high end grpahics cards in your system, you want high end everything
 
Monkey_feces said:
Alienware was never an enthusiast gamer's rig of choice. IMO, its marketing made people believe throwing loads of money at a system would make you an enthusiast gamer. Dell's acquisition wasn't necessarily a bad thing. Basically, Alienware = Crap for > $$$. Dell = crap for < $$$. Dell + Alienware = crap for decent $$$. Anyway, I'm sure onboard video isn't that bad because you didn't pay for a crap video card for > $$$. You can just head over to Dell.com and buy a crap pny 7600gt for < $$$ (about $120 AR).
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Dude, your whole post was utter crap.
 
desrin said:
i think its to sell more powerful systems to the illiterate.

I mean from a marketing perspective why not?

Buy the base cheap ass model for 799... make it seem like you can't upgrade, make it seem like you are limiting yourself.

You have to remember that companies are interested in making money, not providing intelligent options to consumers.
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How come you didn't call him on his post? The main point in our posts are extremely similar.
 
The only thing X300 integrated can do properly is running movies and text editors
Unless someone like HoMM V at 4-5fps in 640x480 with minimal details.
 
ladies and gents i give you alienware with integrated intel "950" graphics

yup. Alienware has its place. it offers extreme machines, no doubt about it, but at a massive premium. The comfort with Alienware is that if it fucks up they will replace it, and they will do it promptly, and you know its going to work outta the box with everything ready to go, no fiddling with jumpers, or installing of OS's. all you have to do is plug stuff in.

but yea, you can call yourself a gamer if you buy alienware crap, but dont ever call yourself an enthusiast, real inthusiasts know the ins and outs of every (foxconn labelled) part in there computer. they know how to make custom air flow and overclock byond imagination, or at least overclock, none of this stock overclock BFG/Alienware shiet. what was it, Dell was offering the XPS (???) renegade, with a Petium 4 (not dual core?) overclocked to 4.6 GHz. pretty wicked sick, but my custom waterloop could do better.
 
$225 to upgrade to the 6800GS? Seriously...come on here, thats ridiculous. How much are those brand new now, like $150ish? A little dated too? God I hate Alienware, I really feel sorry for someone who purchases one of there machines and feels like they are getting a great deal on a sweet machine.

I remember I used to play around with there configurations and see how much the most expensive machine I could make was, it was like $35,000 and it wasn't even a server box.
 
Killa_2327 said:
$225 to upgrade to the 6800GS? Seriously...come on here, thats ridiculous. How much are those brand new now, like $150ish? A little dated too? God I hate Alienware, I really feel sorry for someone who purchases one of there machines and feels like they are getting a great deal on a sweet machine.

I remember I used to play around with there configurations and see how much the most expensive machine I could make was, it was like $35,000 and it wasn't even a server box.
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lmao i always do that :D
 
Monkey_feces said:
Basically, Alienware = Crap for > $$$. Dell = crap for < $$$...
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Hate to be pedantic, but ">" and "<" are not unary operators... Anyone else used to reading mathematics feel a headache coming on while reading that post? :p
 
Killa_2327 said:
$225 to upgrade to the 6800GS? Seriously...come on here, thats ridiculous. How much are those brand new now, like $150ish? A little dated too? God I hate Alienware, I really feel sorry for someone who purchases one of there machines and feels like they are getting a great deal on a sweet machine.

I remember I used to play around with there configurations and see how much the most expensive machine I could make was, it was like $35,000 and it wasn't even a server box.
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After I built my rig I went to Alienware, Falcon, Voodoo ,and put in my setup.. AlienWare it was $5,400.00 Voodoo was $6,000 Falcon was $4,400, building it myself was $2,989.00 :) DIY FTW!! :p

-Proxy
 
Alienware has changed from a hardcore gamer company to a run-of-the-mill system maker. :mad:
 
Yep, monarchcomputer.com is probably the only system builder that's for hardcore gamers. I would even go as far to say that they are enthusiast system builders because you still have to know your stuff to configure the best system with them. Also, the premium you pay isn't too high. (I am not on monarch's payroll, I just want to be their bitch)
 
Monkey_feces said:
Yep, monarchcomputer.com is probably the only system builder that's for hardcore gamers. I would even go as far to say that they are enthusiast system builders because you still have to know your stuff to configure the best system with them. Also, the premium you pay isn't too high. (I am not on monarch's payroll, I just want to be their bitch)
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:D :D :D
 
Monkey_feces said:
Yep, monarchcomputer.com is probably the only system builder that's for hardcore gamers. I would even go as far to say that they are enthusiast system builders because you still have to know your stuff to configure the best system with them. Also, the premium you pay isn't too high. (I am not on monarch's payroll, I just want to be their bitch)
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That is what I call "Keeping it Real" Kudos to you .........oh and TMI
:D
 
My laptop (Pentium M @ 1.70ghz, gig of DDR2 533, 1440 x 900 native) can run Deus Ex splendidly using Intel's onboard 900 multimega-I-don't-know-the-real-name-of-it graphics.

Who needs a fancy-schmancy video card? Not like any real games have come out since the first Deus Ex ;).
 
TheSpook said:
Who needs a fancy-schmancy video card? Not like any real games have come out since the first Deus Ex ;).
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You ever get crowded in that closed and narrow mind of yours?
 
TheSpook said:
My laptop (Pentium M @ 1.70ghz, gig of DDR2 533, 1440 x 900 native) can run Deus Ex splendidly using Intel's onboard 900 multimega-I-don't-know-the-real-name-of-it graphics.

Who needs a fancy-schmancy video card? Not like any real games have come out since the first Deus Ex ;).
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1999 called, and they want their game back.

Also, I would like to add: the TNT2 is insanely jealous of your powerful GMA 900 :D

LOOK AT ALL THEM THAR POLYGONS!

deusex0074nm.jpg
 
Deus Ex was pretty damn good, only real amazing thing to come out since then was Far Cry, but thats a different topic.

It is a little awkward that Alienware would ever consider selling Onboard video as an option, at the very least they should have 6200TC for the low end option.
 
Monkey_feces said:
Dell = crap for < $$$.
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I don't think my XPS 600 is crap. Runs perfect, boots everytime, and never locks up. It's plenty fast, too. I don't think it looks half bad either. :)
 
I said dells were crap in the context that these prebuilt systems are crap compared to hardware enthusiasts's built, configured, and optimized systems. Unfortunately, this is hard forum and not library's computer forum, and thus, everyone will see dell systems as crap because they are locked from the optimization and configuring that enthusiasts would enjoy (mainly overclocking).
 
LuminaryJanitor said:
Hate to be pedantic, but ">" and "<" are not unary operators... Anyone else used to reading mathematics feel a headache coming on while reading that post? :p
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i spent a few mins trying to figure out what he was saying.

literally that translates as Alienware is less then the money, Dell is more then the money, seriosly please use good old english.

Killa_2327 said:
Deus Ex was pretty damn good, only real amazing thing to come out since then was Far Cry, but thats a different topic...
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QFT. Dues Ex, System Shock, Theif, all awsome games, i heard theres some new theif deal (using new unreal engine :D :cool: ) and a new System shock type game (althought not a seaqual to the system shock games) called bioshock, but that project looks like its going the way of the dionosaur.
 
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