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How bad would this suck? You ever notice that, when something hugely embarrassing like this happens, there is always someone there with a camera? Heh, good for us though
bad for the Tesla owner.
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Tesla #6 Crashed Already
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It'll be a cool story in 20 years when everyone's driving one....."You know sonny, back in the day, I was the very first person to wreck a Tesla"
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It wasn't Gov. Ahnold, was it?
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What does not hearing a car have to do with anything? With the A/C, the radio and wind noise, most cars can't be heard on the freeway anyway. This is just another case of an asshole not paying attention to what's around him and causing an "accident". It's no different than someone yakking on their cell phone and doing the same thing.
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I would imagine the speed is a bit deceptive too when there is no engine noise, though with those tires I would bet the road noise would be all telling!
Maybe he just wasn't ready for the electric engine torque and gave her too much juice?
Maybe he just wasn't ready for the electric engine torque and gave her too much juice?
Does that look like a freeway to you?
Why don't you first go and do some searches for cars like the Toyota Prius before you spout off about something that you have no idea of. People are getting hit by them, people are backing up into them and turning into them because of their low noise production.
Having a low profile car with no noise production increases the risk of an accident, it's a proven fact. And I said for the record, that we will be seeing more tesla accidents and a big attributing factor is going to be because of its noise production and low profile.
There seem to be some real smart statistics here
It seems that this is a busy street, people trying to rush over the traffic signal before it turns red. The car infront of him stopped suddenly and he didnt react fast enough. Simple explinations are usually correct. In my country we drive usually 150mph on the main streets and you wont hear a car behind you, but if you open your eyes you can spot them. lol....
It seems that this is a busy street, people trying to rush over the traffic signal before it turns red. The car infront of him stopped suddenly and he didnt react fast enough. Simple explinations are usually correct. In my country we drive usually 150mph on the main streets and you wont hear a car behind you, but if you open your eyes you can spot them. lol....
Does that look like a freeway to you?
Why don't you first go and do some searches for cars like the Toyota Prius before you spout off about something that you have no idea of. People are getting hit by them, people are backing up into them and turning into them because of their low noise production.
Having a low profile car with no noise production increases the risk of an accident, it's a proven fact. And I said for the record, that we will be seeing more tesla accidents and a big attributing factor is going to be because of its noise production and low profile.
Having said all that, noise doesn't have a factor in this accident. This is a guy who didn't stop quick enough.
Priceless!
Since you can't hold a decent conversation without flaming and downright insulting, it just goes to show your weak argument and it also goes along with a report to the admins function.
Thank you, good bye.
mentok1982
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I never realized how low those cars are. They are only waist high.
Also, I drive an RSX-S, which is LOUD and I can't hear anything around me over 20 miles an hour, so whether it's a Prius or a Ford diesel, I'm not hearing them...that's why good drivers use mirrors. And the statistic is for pedestrians being hit, not cars.
I never said "THIS" accident. People like to take things out of context on the hardforums though... although, I should not be surprised. Accidents involving the tesla is going to continue.
Now for those people who say silent cars are not an issue, especially those with eyes and mirrors.. here are some articles with just one of the major issues (pedestrians):
http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm07/bm0707/bm070704.htm
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xml...tipe.s brush with death inspires musical cars
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Does that look like a freeway to you?
Why don't you first go and do some searches for cars like the Toyota Prius before you spout off about something that you have no idea of. People are getting hit by them, people are backing up into them and turning into them because of their low noise production.
Having a low profile car with no noise production increases the risk of an accident, it's a proven fact. And I said for the record, that we will be seeing more tesla accidents and a big attributing factor is going to be because of its noise production and low profile.
Fine, show me some links where the "low noise production" and not the lack of attention of drivers is the cause these cars being involved in accidents. Also, show me where these cars are involved in more accidents than other cars.
Having a low profile car period increases the chance of an accident, not it's noise production. Again between the A/C and radio the vast majority of cars cannot be heard. If you had read the article you would know the asshole in the Tesla tried to squeeze in between two cars when the first one had to stop quickly. It had nothing to do with someone not hearing them.
Oh and about the freeway comment, I was meaning to say "wind noise at freeway speeds," But for some reason, we're not allowed to edit, so I couldn't correct it.
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The Tesla is a Different animal compared to most cars.
You have a Single Speed Transmission hooked to an electric motor that generated 100% torque from 0RPM.. That thing must be insane to try to control from a stop if you floor it.
Accelleration must be awesome too, even with the weight.
You have a Single Speed Transmission hooked to an electric motor that generated 100% torque from 0RPM.. That thing must be insane to try to control from a stop if you floor it.
Accelleration must be awesome too, even with the weight.
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The article actually says that the Tesla was rear-ended causing it to go under the car in front of him.
Sounds to me as if it was the Tesla drivers "fault".
Sounds to me as if it was the Tesla drivers "fault".
Well, if noise is not an issue, then why do we have horns? Why does trains have horns? Why is it proven that trains have to sound thier horns 1/4th mile from crossing so that crossing cars can see and it's proven that it saves lives? Why can pedestrians get hit by a silent car and they can see a car perfectly in the open whereas a driver can't? Why are motorbikers always trying to make thier bikes louder so they do not get hit by cars?
Think about it. As humans, we use all the senses we can in driving. Hearing a truck next to you already gives you the impulse that you can't just merge. It's not a hard concept.
Apparently people on this forum prefers to have their ears plugged and drive by their mirrors.... but what they dont know, is that you can't always see a low profile car like that. Hell, I can't even see a crown vic behind my car.
Someone who says that accidents dont increase by eliminating another element of your senses is just downright foolish. When I go offroading, we put ORV flags on our cars/trucks, not because of visual, but you also can't hear some quads cresting the hills. You reduce a risk by increasing a sense.
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No, you just like to post out of context in threads that already have one. Then turn around and expect people to automatically know you're not talking about the topic at hand.
As are accidents in other cars.
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Another out-of-context post from you. This accident has nothing to do with pedestrians. Any pedestrian that doesn't take the time to look before crossing should not be surprised when they get hit. Now, I know those links you posted are referring to blind people, and yes this will prove to be problematic for them. But they'll have to adapt, as they always have. They're trying to fit into a world that's isn't safe for them, then turn around and expect us to bow to them. That doesn't work so well a lot of the times.
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Way to not read my post.
Way to troll
Try and prove me wrong. I have yet to see you provide any credible and solid proof that I am wrong... yet you just keep on trolling.
You also deal with the concept that the drivers of the silent cars tend to become weary of fall asleep due to the silent drive experience... thus increasing the chances of rear end accidents such as this one and also the overall reaction response time for driving.
If you scroll down a look at the other pictures, it looks like the whit Toyota hit it and pinned it in the Mercedes
Arnie only drives Hummers
Nope he has a Challenger too!
http://coolspotters.com/muscle-cars/dodge-challenger/and/political-figures/arnold-schwarzenegger#medium-11015
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I have to 100% agree with Ockie here. The more information you have to process, the less likley you are to be in an accident.. Its like trying to hunt with ear plugs in.. Your not going to bag as much game.
"This" thread is about "This" accedent ROFLMAO. I am sure the guy in front of him stoped because he couldn't hear him coming I am sure that if he COULD have heard him coming he wouldn't have been rearended.
"This" thread is about "This" accedent ROFLMAO. I am sure the guy in front of him stoped because he couldn't hear him coming I am sure that if he COULD have heard him coming he wouldn't have been rearended.
This thread is not about THIS accident. If it was, it would have the names of the individuals, it would be about THIS accident.
This thread is about the TESLA wrecking. Period.
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Silence doesn't make people sleepy. Not ever. Never. No. Getting too comfortable, maybe. Setting cruise control and becoming less engaged late at night, maybe.
But silence? No. It is not an independent factor.
A big one if you're riding a bicycle. Like it or not I can hear the big 4x4s coming from a mile away. The Priuses tend to sneak up on me though.
In this case, though, we're talking about a car on car accident.
I've been the 'victim' in a few wrecks and the only thing I heard was brakes squealing or nothing at all (if the driver was just not paying attention) before I was hit from behind. None of these were quiet running cars, as well. Saw it coming, definitely; couldn't do much, unfortunately.
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Way to troll
Try and prove me wrong. I have yet to see you provide any credible and solid proof that I am wrong... yet you just keep on trolling.
You also deal with the concept that the drivers of the silent cars tend to become weary of fall asleep due to the silent drive experience... thus increasing the chances of rear end accidents such as this one and also the overall reaction response time for driving.
How am I trolling? You made a comment, I responded with my experience. People can say all they want that "I didn't hear them" (I'm referring to other drivers, not pedestrians, or cyclists) but when you really look into what happened you'll find that the large majority of cases is that were simply were not paying attention.
Trains and cars have horns to get people's what? Attention. A sudden abrupt sound will jar a persons senses so that they LOOK for what they heard. My sister was almost hit by a train, not because she didn't hear the loud ass rumbling, but because she didn't LOOK before she crossed the tracks (I was in the car and it scared the shit out me when I looked up and was no more tha 50 feet from the damn thing).
wow you guys talking about how important sound is frighten the hell out of me. Am I the ONLY one who checks his mirrors and blind spots before changing lanes??
That probably explains why my insurance is practically free and the only accident I've ever been in was when a guy rear-ended me when I was stopped at a stop light. Since I was in a fiero and my foot wasn't on the gas, I must have been invisible!
That probably explains why my insurance is practically free and the only accident I've ever been in was when a guy rear-ended me when I was stopped at a stop light. Since I was in a fiero and my foot wasn't on the gas, I must have been invisible!
Heh.. Good drivers use mirrors!?
If you don't use your mirrors, and rely on HEARING cars around you, you should be thrown in jail before you kill someone.
wow you guys talking about how important sound is frighten the hell out of me. Am I the ONLY one who checks his mirrors and blind spots before changing lanes??
That probably explains why my insurance is practically free and the only accident I've ever been in was when a guy rear-ended me when I was stopped at a stop light. Since I was in a fiero and my foot wasn't on the gas, I must have been invisible!
No one said you shouldn't check your mirrors and blind spots. Sounds is a suppliment to give you better judgement.
Just like when you are crossing the road, you should always look both ways, but it does not hurt to hear a car coming, it gives you some judgement based on the speed and approach.
This thread is not about THIS accident. If it was, it would have the names of the individuals, it would be about THIS accident.
This thread is about the TESLA wrecking. Period.
Umm..... Yea.... "This" thread is about "THIS" accident which IS the "TESLA" wrecking.... are you confused some how???
Your articles are irrelevant. It's called LOOKING BOTH WAYS BEFORE CROSSING THE STREET! When I look down my block I see the car but I don't here it. Seeing the car would be my first clue that a car is coming! If your blind, then MAYBE there's an issue. But if hearing a car helps so much then there wouldn't be any pedestrians getting nailed in the road and the last time I checked I didn't see any blind people getting hit by a car recently.
People like you are reasons innovations have a hard time coming to life.
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Sadly, more like "someone with a cellphone that has been bathed in grease and has roughly the image quality of a '70s pr0n flick that has been copied too many times".
And well, you can apparently park the car under some retarded chunks of metal like an F150, so it still gets a thumbs up from me