Temps too high! :(

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Papaspurs

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Hi,

I've got a eVGA 680i with an E6600 and a Thermalright XP120 with two Yate Loons in a SilverStone TJ07.

I'm played around with some settings and have got some bigger (worrying) increases in core temp readings than I was expecting:

9x1066 Linked 1.25v CPU (2.4Ghz - Stock)
Idle: 30
Load: 50

9x1200 Linked 1.25v CPU (2.7Ghz)
Idle: 30
Load: 52

9x1344 Linked 1.25v CPU (3.0Ghz)
Idle: 45 :rolleyes:
Load: 80 :eek:

9x1500 Unlinked (Mem: 750) 1.25v CPU (3.0Ghz)
Idle: 45 :rolleyes:
Load: 80 :eek:

I'm guessing the heatsink is doing it's job as the stock temps seem pretty good?

Is it just because I'm doing something noobie? What can I do to improve the temps????

I was hoping to reach at least 3Ghz and preferably a fair bit higher :(
 
does removing the side of your case help any? what are the temp differences? have you tried reseating the heatsink?
 
Something is not right.

The idle temps should not go up from 30C to 45C when you went from 2.7 GHz to 3.0 GHz. If you cpu voltage is set on AUTO then it might be giving your cpu a big shot of additional voltage that you don't know about.

An increase of 1C or 2C at idle is normal for that increase, not 15C. What program are you using for load testing? TAT creates lots of heat but Orthos is the most realistic program for heat and stability testing. If you ever use a real world app that creates more heat than Orthos then use TAT but other than that stick to Orthos. It's more than sufficient for most users. TAT is for testing and baking laptops.

SpeedFan v.4.32 should give you accurate core temp readings and cpu voltage readings. Report them if you can and when testing make sure your room temperature is consistent between tests and include that. It's hard to judge what is normal without some more information.
 
Hi,

I'm using Orthos to stress

Core Temp to check temps....but core temp wasn't showing the voltage jump (set to Auto) from 1.25v to 1.45v.

I've dropped it back down to 1.25v and it's running at 3Ghz (9x) at 31 degrees. :D

unclewebb you rock! :) :) :)

So....I guess I just play with stress testing, bus speeds, multipliers and voltages until I get something satisfactory?

I'm so happy, I've overused emoticons ;) :D

All reccomendations for settings welcomed.
 
CoreTemp shows the VID ( voltage identification ) of a processor. This is what the processor is designed to run at and has nothing to do with what it is actually running at. Most of the E6300 / E6400 series have a VID of 1.325 volts. If yours is less than this that means you've got a good processor! :D

Most E6400 processors can run at 8 x 400 with the default of 1.325 volts which keeps the heat down. You might want to try dropping your multi from 9 to 8 just to see if you can run at this level.

1.35 volts to 1.40 volts for the cpu is usually sufficient for 3200 MHz to 3300 MHz.

Some people end up giving their cpu too much voltage when the real problem is their memory. Most DDR2 likes a minimum of 2.1 to 2.2 volts. Make sure your memory is not holding you back before increasing your cpu voltage.
 
I've got an E6600, I'm not sure if you were just referencing the 6400 or thought I had one.

Even at stock speend (267x9) If I change my CPU core voltage to 1.35, the processor runs at 42 idle / 64 load :(

cpu 1.35v
fsb 1.2v
mem 1.85v
nforce spp 1.2v
nforce mcp 1.5v
HT nforce spp<->mcp 1.2v

Does this mean I need to reseat the heatsink?

And if I use the 8x multiplier what speed should I set my mem to?

I'm running at 3Ghz (333.53x9) at stock 1.25 voltage with idle 37 / load 59 for the moment.

I really don't wanna have to reseat the heatsink....

Remove Fans, Remove Heatsink, Reseat Heatsink, Fit Fans (which is a nightmare)....

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Papaspurs said:
I really don't wanna have to reseat the heatsink....

Remove Fans, Remove Heatsink, Reseat Heatsink, Fit Fans (which is a nightmare)....
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so basicly you would prefer an answer that doesn involve work? reseating it is the easiest (not to mention cost-less) thing to try. sure its a waste of 30 minuits but its easier then swapping hardware/RMAing something.
 
Obviously I'd like a solution free from work :) who wouldn't???

I know it's the easiest thing to do, I was just illustrating it's a pain in the @rse and more importantly wanting to check it wasn't likely to be something else first.

I'm using the Thermalright paste that came with the heatsink and applied a very thin coat to cpu and heatsink using my finger with some cling film / ceran(sp?) wrap covering it.

If it's nothing else....I'll post a pic to check i've not used too much / little once i've had some dinner and got the heatsink off
 
1.85 volts for your memory is not enough. 2.10 volts is a good starting point for DDR2 no matter what the package says.

What is your room temperature?

Some people have been complaining lately that their thermalright coolers are floating around on their cpu and not snug enough. Something like that might also be causing a problem.

Nothing wrong with a load of 64C. I run Orthos reliably up into the low 70C range without any problems so don't be too afraid of a little bit of heat.

Your cooler at a normal room temperature and 1.35 volts should be keeping your cpu under 60C if it is working properly and has been installed correctly.
 
Papaspurs said:
I'm using the Thermalright paste that came with the heatsink and applied a very thin coat to cpu and heatsink using my finger with some cling film / ceran(sp?) wrap covering it.
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dont do that. put a small pea sized bead in the center and squish the heatsink ontop of it. when you spread it out manualy you can never get it even and traps air bubbles when you go to put it together.
 
I had good success with spreading a thin rectangular area of AS5 directly over where the dual cores lie. Their recommended drawing a line down the center of the processor didn't work as well for me.

It might take a little trial and error to get it right. That's the fun of this hobby! Endlessly wasting time to get that last MHz out of your processor. :D
 
I dropped my multi to 6 and set the FSB to 400 MHz for a total of 2400 MHz for a nice easy comparison to your system.

At idle I set it to 1.352 volts as reported by CPUz and while running Orthos the voltage dropped down to 1.328 volts. Room temperature is 19C / 66F so if your room temp is 24C / 75F then add 5C to my numbers when comparing.

With the Intel OEM heatsink and fan I get 30C at idle and after 8 minutes of running Orthos it was pretty stable at 56C. Your Thermalright should be doing better than that, especially at full load.

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HOOOOOOOOOOORAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! :D :D :D

Reseat-a-roonie-rama!

1.4v
Idle: 37
Load: 59

Currently at 3.2Ghz and climbing! :D

What speed should I set my ram to to try unlinked?

Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, one and all :)
 
Hi,

Voltage was 1.38ish as I remember, not at the machine now.

What's an uber high Delta? (As in the difference between idle and load temps?)

I've got some more playing to do. I took of the (incredibly noisy) chipset fan that comes with the eVGA board and the chipset feels pretty damned hot too the touch and it's directly beneath my CPU heastink, so the hot air is being sucked accross and out the top of the case.
I'm going to try adding that fan back in and also perhaps changing the direction of the airflow in my case. I have a TJ07 with a Scythe Kama Bay in the front.

Current
Front (1 x 120): In
Back (2 x 92): In
Top (2 x 120): Out
CPU (2 x 120): Up

Will Try
Front (1 x 120): Out
Back (2 x 92): Out
Top (2 x 120): In
CPU (2 x 120): Down (Towards hot chipset)

Has anyone done any testing wihtout thermal paste?

cheers all :)
 
There is a good picture half way down this page of airflow in a traditional case:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/142/1

Generally you want cool air coming in from the bottom front of your case and then exiting at the top back of your case or through the power supply. The more hot air you can get out of your case without it going through and warming up the power supply, the better.

Your case looks a little crowded inside. I'm a little biased but maybe you should get one of these.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/cases/387/7/

Enough room in there to swing a cat.
 
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