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So I have a set of bookshelf speakers that I would like to use with my TV. I have my Xbox one and HTPC hooked up to the PC over HDMI, and a wii/xbox 360 connected with component. My TV only has an optical output for audio which is where I run into an issue. I want to use a T amp for these speakers since I don't have a lot of space and I don't want to spend a lot. I have been searching for a few hours now and I can't find a single Class D amp with an optical input within my price range. I am hoping someone has better googlefu or you know of a product that meets my ideal specs.

15W per channel @ 8 ohms
Optical Input
Reasonably small (not a full sized receiver)
$100 ($130 max)

I have seen small optical -> RCA DAC boxes but I am hoping for an all in one solution if at all possible.
 
For that price range you'll have a lot of trouble finding anything.

Probably you're going to have to combine the cheap T-amp with a separate DAC. I also couldn't find a crazy affordable amp with an optical input.

Your best bet in that price range would be to buy a cheap optical splitter and a pair of these: http://www.parts-express.com/behringer-ms40-digital-monitor-speakers-2-x-20w-pair--248-641

These are near-field monitors so they're designed for short range listening. If that becomes a problem I'd say good luck finding a single solution for that price.
 
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It sounds like it has a shitty design around the output of the amp but it can be rectified. l have yet to find any specs on the DAC but I am going to keep looking since I'm no longer at work.
 
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UMASS said:
Yeah...I agree. It is a nice find. I haven't seen a T-AMP with Bluetooth & an optical out.

Quick Edit: If you look @ the ebay seller, it appears (under negative comments) that many people complain about the quality of T-AMPS that they have sold. Just an FYI.
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It is also the first one that I've seen with a Sub out. If only it also have a USB (external DAC).
 
It's shipped from China, so there's no warranty to speak of. Also, it seems like this buyer doesn't respond to e-mails. The sub-out caught me by surprise myself as well. We'll see this version from either Dayton Audio or Sewell direct down the road.

I'm using this Sewell amp here for my Windows XP system down in my basement. It does the job well overall.

http://sewelldirect.com/Sewell-Silv...r-50-WPC.asp?gclid=CJ-Sn8SB770CFaVQOgodPjwA7Q

It's your basic T-AMP, but it pushes my Definitive Technology Pro Monitor 800 speakers very well @ 50 WPC. It's inexpensive & looks very nice.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-4MosG5...ProMonitor-800-Black.html?XVINQ=DST&XVVER=CCC
 
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I went with the multi piece setup for now. If I don't like the way it sounds I will just return it to amazon. I may grab one of those amps off of ebay just so I can play around with it and see if I can get it modified per some instructions I found online.
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Vok: Can I ask what you paid for the whole scenario? That's the beauty of Amazon....You can always return it.

EDIT: I added it up appx. $56.00 & change for the complete set-up. Please chime back & let us know what you think.
 
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I've heard Lepai is really decent for the price. I have a Topping TP20 MK2, for the record. I like its sound pretty well. It sounds pretty pristine. But the Lepai is a lot cheaper. I think they're both using the same chip, too.
 
I either got a bum amp or my monitor 30s no longer work. I could get sound from headphones from the DAC and the amp but the speakers would not give any indication of sound no matter what I tried. Unless anyone has any other trouble shooting suggestions I am going to return and buy a stronger amp.
 
voklskier4452 said:
I either got a bum amp or my monitor 30s no longer work. I could get sound from headphones from the DAC and the amp but the speakers would not give any indication of sound no matter what I tried. Unless anyone has any other trouble shooting suggestions I am going to return and buy a stronger amp.
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it is probably a bad amp (u could test it with a multimeter and see if it is sending power to the speaker outputs)... those lepai's are cheap but they have an abysmal reputation for quality control..with doa's common.
 
atarione said:
it is probably a bad amp (u could test it with a multimeter and see if it is sending power to the speaker outputs)... those lepai's are cheap but they have an abysmal reputation for quality control..with doa's common.
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With these ultra cheap Chinese amps it's very common to have serious quality issues such as improperly attached cooling fins. They may lack silica paste or it's improperly aligned, losee screws etc.

The best practice with these cheapos is to open the device as the first thing and go the whole device through with a screwdriver to check all the mountings before even plugging the device in. One loose screw can pretty much instantly kill your amp.

Oh, and you can pretty much instantly kill yourself also if you stick the screwdriver in the amp WHEN it's plugged. But as said, these Chinese wonders can ship DOA also.
 
Well I am just going to return the thing. For $20 it is not worth it to me to take it into work and try and trouble shoot it. I think I am going to try that sewell silverback next go around.
 
Vok: Mine's doing great! I'm listening to it right now (Jethro Tull) When you get it, the fit & finish is really top notch. The aluminum faceplate is really beautiful & you'll notice the volume knob has a very slight notch for easier grip. The power light isn't obnoxious either (like many are) Wish it had a subwoofer out, then it would be perfect. Please follow-up & let's us know what you think.

EDIT: Vok: I just noticed the Sewell T-AMP is available on Amazon with free shipping. Unless you spend over $100.00 with Sewell direct, you get charged for shipping (not too bad) They use FedEx & they are in Utah. Made it to Gloucester, MA. in three days form Sewell.

http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Silverback-Class-t-Amplifier-WPC/dp/B00HV2A7EO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
 
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I'm not sure why you'd get the Sewell unless you needed the watts. I'm pretty sure it's gonna sound worse than the one you've got right now (it probably uses a different chip). Why not just replace the Lep? This is Amazon, right? Amazon's pretty good about these things. Alternatively you could go try out the Topping TP20MK2. It's more expensive than what you've got but I think the quality control is a lot better. Many people are fairly happy with the amp.
 
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I'm not sure why you'd get the Sewell unless you needed the watts. I'm pretty sure it's gonna sound worse than the one you've got right now (it probably uses a different chip). Why not just replace the Lep? This is Amazon, right? Amazon's pretty good about these things. Alternatively you could go try out the Topping TP20MK2. It's more expensive than what you've got but I think the quality control is a lot better. Many people are fairly happy with the amp.
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Stole: I'm sorry...Why would you say the Sewell is less then your Topping? Because it costs a tad less? It has more WPC? The QC in the Sewell is "top-notch" as I mentioned countless times before. Sound is pretty solid for a T-AMP. Running it thru some PSB B4's for a test the last week & I find no real serious weakness.

I quote you "I'm pretty sure it's going to sound worse then the one you've got" Really? Do you own the Lepai or the Sewell? I don't own your Topping TP20MK2, so I can not comment. There you go. What is the TP20MK2 the "Holy Grail" of T-AMPS.....I think not.
 
Okay, okay, no need to start cussing at me in PM's because I express some concern about a product that you happened to buy (and are suddenly a huge fan of because aforementioned action) and then don't immediately respond to this thread like a mother guarding her children.

Now then. Let's see. Several things to note:
1. Higher WPC at a lower price. Higher wattage tends to introduce higher harmonic distortion for any system (past certain points anyway), but you're talking about a system at a lower price with a higher wattage.
2. These amplifiers all use a different variant of the Tripath chip that has been around for ages. IIRC the ones that are capable of putting out more wattage than the one in the Topping TP20 are also ones that people tend to like less in terms of sound quality. The one in the TA2020 (I think that's the chip designation) is known for its pristine quality, and the Topping makes it shine.
3. Look at the Amazon review above the one that's obviously yours:
The verdict. If you need a tiny amp for an office, or something portable, and only 1 analog input, this is your box. If you want really good sound quality for cheap and don't need to save the space, find an old receiver at a yard sale for $20 and get better sound.
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4. I also remember you mentioning it didn't hold a candle to one of your other receivers... I don't know what that's priced at because I don't remember the model but there are people saying the Topping TP20 sounds better than 400-500$+ stereo receivers.

Which brings me to this:

Compare the amount of rave reviews for the Topping TP20Mk2 compared to the amount of rave reviews for the Sewell Silverback T Amp. I'll tell you right now the former is a much safer bet. The Topping TP20MK2 has a lot of good reviews on Amazon, and plenty of people use and love it.
Go ahead, look for yourself:
https://www.google.com/webhp?source...spv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=topping+tp20+review&start=10

Now go try to find rave reviews (or much of anything...) for your Sewell..... I tried, but I also failed. Maybe you're better at this. It doesn't help that they name it the same as their banana plugs or something...

So tell me, which one is the safer bet? Yours is a mere 13$ less, and the only thing it provides is more WPC, while the Topping is a time-tested and proven contender. Even if I don't have yours (I don't need 50WPC so I never will have yours), I don't think I need to.

Edit: A few technical corrections after I got home from work.
 
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I'm sorry....But who is the "mother hen" guarding their chicks? Her name is Topping. Do you really think I'm going to put serious weight into one Amazon review? Yes, Topping been around for a while now, I don't argue that. My issue is you clearly stated in your pervious post that "your" TP20MK2 sounds better & I can't buy into that. You don't own both (did you notice I mentioned that I don't either?) so how can you make such a claim? It's really that simple.

If there are people out there that think that any T-AMP could hold a candle to the NAD D3020 amp, then they have no clue. Keep believing what some people say Stole. Safer bet? Again, I don't have the answer to that question "because" I don't own the TP20MK2! So I cannot comment, but it appears as if you have insight on both T-AMPS! Get where I'm coming from?
 
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I'm sorry....But who is the "mother hen" guarding their chicks? Her name is Topping. Do you really think I'm going to put serious weight into one Amazon review? Yes, Topping been around for a while now, I don't argue that. My issue is you clearly stated in your pervious post that "your" TP20MK2 sounds better & I can't buy into that. You don't own both (did you notice I mentioned that I don't either?) so how can you make such a claim? It's really that simple.

If there are people out there that think that any T-AMP could hold a candle to the NAD D3020 amp, then they have no clue. Keep believing what some people say Stole. Safer bet? Again, I don't have the answer to that question "because" I don't own the TP20MK2! So I cannot comment, but it appears as if you have insight on both T-AMPS! Get where I'm coming from?
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This is really getting to be more trouble than its worth. It's apparent you're not even trying. At least I type very fast, but I just really don't know why I'm bothering.
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Moving on:

Your reading comprehension needs some work, because not only did you not understand what "mother hen" was talking about, you can't even read the other post I made in this topic, where I said "pretty sure". If that translates to "clearly (ie factually) stated that it sounds better" in your head, maybe you need to relearn the English language. At best it translates to "most probably". Which, I have plenty of support for that "most probably".

Second of all, you keep talking about how my post is baseless, but your post saying the Sewell is close to the Topping and even a remotely decent amp is by far the least supported claim in this topic, partially because of the SECOND PART THAT I BOLDED IN YOUR VERY POST. No, I don't have insight on both amps. I only have insight into one, and I know what Tripath chip is in it: the Topping TP20. The Sewell? No, not a soul alive knows what the heck is in that thing. Maybe you can open it up and tell us.

Furthermore, you don't even have a basis as to why your NAD is so much better than my Topping, do you? Here's a humorous forum post in that regard (this isn't your NAD, just a NAD that is nearly 400$).
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=571253
It's just hilarious to me when people have that mindset that you apparently do. When I receive a product the first thing I ask myself is "was it really worth the money?" Not "I paid that much for this, so it must be really good".

Finally for some reason you completely failed to directly address my post's real point. Which was that regardless of whether that one Amazon rating on your Sewell is accurate or not, the Topping has it beaten by good reviews and anecdotal evidence in SPADES. And they don't stop coming, either. That Amazon page is loaded with 73 reviews which are predominantly happy (and there are recent ones). I bet you didn't even click that google link I gave, did you?

In case you somehow fail to read again, here is a TL;DR:The Topping AMP is time-tested, and proven, by quite a few people, to be a great amp. Many people claim it beats out amps several times its price. The Sewell afaik essentially has two ratings. You and one dude... and that other dude says it sounds like trash. So tell me. As a consumer in the market for one of these, which looks like the safer bet? If you're seriously going to tell me Sewell right now, that's just blatant fanboyism speaking, and you're really not worth discussing anything with.

Finally stop PMing me, that's just getting silly. This isn't anything personal, and no I don't care about you or dislike you.
 
Stole: I'm not going to argue with you about this anymore. The reason why I PM you was I wanted to keep our discussion off the audio boards (I'm sure the moderators don't like it) We can agree that T-AMPS have their place. Most people that buy them are looking for an inexpensive 2.0 computer set-up using budget type speakers like Pioneer, Dayton & Micca's etc. You're using damn fine Mourdaunt-Short Aviano 2's & I'm using a pair of Definitive Technology Pro Monitor 800's for my WINXP build in the basement with the Sewell. My main rig is NAD D3020 (wonderful DAC via USB) & PSB B4's with a Mordaunt-Short Aviano 7 subwoofer. In many cases, I still believe that you get what you paid for. The NAD is a outstanding amp & yes it costs a few more bucks, but totally worth it IMHO.

The Sewell isn't based of any Tripath chipset. It's made by a company called STM Microelectronics. It's really a D-Class amp & not a T. The chipset is called a TDA7492. There are several companies that use this chipset & people seem to like them. BTW...They might call them T-Amps, but they are not. Here's a few.

Dayton DTA-100a:

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-dta-100a-class-t-digital-mini-amplifier-50-wpc--300-383

SMSL SA-50:

http://www.amazon.com/SMSL-TDA7492-...UTF8&qid=1403613877&sr=8-1&keywords=smsl+sa50

Sound Appeal:

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Ampli...d=1403615280&sr=8-1&keywords=sound+appeal+amp

BTW...The reason why there are so many reviews on your Topping is because it's been out awhile. I'll admit, people tend to like the amp, but unless you have a really solid DAC, there is a difference.
 
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UMASS said:
Stole: I'm not going to argue with you about this anymore. The reason why I PM you was I wanted to keep our discussion off the audio boards (I'm sure the moderators don't like it)
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Why would we stop here? This is the first good, informative post that you've made in this topic. And honestly your PM to me didn't even make sense. I'm not going to keep going on about that, but I don't see how the moderators "wouldn't like this topic". Perhaps I've teased a bit much, but this is still rather civil (as opposed to your PMs). Either way this has to do with influencing someone's buying decision. I'm also not going to keep this in PM's because the main person this matters to is him (the TC) not us. Like I said, this isn't personal between you and me. I just refuse to let badly tested purchasing information sit around and influence someone's buying decision.

My main rig is NAD D3020 (wonderful DAC via USB) & PSB B4's with a Mordaunt-Short Aviano 7 subwoofer. In many cases, I still believe that you get what you paid for. The NAD is a outstanding amp & yes it costs a few more bucks, but totally worth it IMHO.
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Don't you mean PSB B6's? I seem to remember you getting those for 280 or something in another topic. I would think you would make that your main rig. Anyway, honestly again, please stop that mindset. "I paid this much for it so it must be this much better" is NOT a good mindset. Investing money =/= getting quality out. Market value is determined by perceived value and lots of complex factors that can be manipulated. There are some manufacturers out there that do it on purpose! I gave an example in the O2 amp topic. I got a pair of Beyerdynamic T1's for less than half the price of the Sennheiser HD800's, yet many (in fact in a poll topic I found on Head-Fi, that's actually "most") people prefer it to the HD800's (not that that's why I got them...). People have noted that the build quality seems to be higher, too. So what does money guarantee you? Nothing. Research and careful analysis is the only thing that can guarantee you anything. Throwing money at someone and expecting them to put more out by default is like blindly putting faith in a corporation. Is that smart? >_>

Here's a topic for your interest. Of course it's just one opinion, so don't take it as me saying this factually, it's just something I dug up.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...s/1517013-d3020-impressions.html#post24362558


The Sewell isn't based of any Tripath chipset. It's made by a company called STM Microelectronics. It's really a D-Class amp & not a T. The chipset is called a TDA7492. There are several companies that use this chipset & people seem to like them. BTW...They might call them T-Amps, but they are not. Here's a few.

Dayton DTA-100a:

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-dta-100a-class-t-digital-mini-amplifier-50-wpc--300-383

SMSL SA-50:

http://www.amazon.com/SMSL-TDA7492-...UTF8&qid=1403613877&sr=8-1&keywords=smsl+sa50

Sound Appeal:

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Ampli...d=1403615280&sr=8-1&keywords=sound+appeal+amp
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Good find. It's very misleading how one of the amps even SAYS TRIPATH IN ITS PRODUCT NAME when it isn't using Tripath. Stupid manufacturers... =_=. Anyway, it's going to be difficult to make comparisons between that and the Topping, then. In the first place the Sewell isn't guaranteed to be as good as either of those, though. Its internal circuitry could be different.

I mean the top rated review on one of those that you linked says he preferred the Topping to his clarity wise, but that the thing drove more WPC and he likes it. Either way though, if you suggested that he (he being the TC) get one of those, I would probably have less problem with it. Those are safer bets than the "I'm basically a beta tester" Sewell that you linked. If you had suggested one of those, I would have less problem with it. I wonder if we can find more forum posts where users are comparing them.

BTW...The reason why there are so many reviews on your Topping is because it's been out awhile. I'll admit, people tend to like the amp, but unless you have a really solid DAC, there is a difference.
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I'm using a Creative Z series, works fine for me. It also has an op amp built in, so it does some nice pre-amping. Helps my Topping drive my speakers very nicely.

B00nie said:
Where did you get my picture? You have a spy cam in my room? Bastard!
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Yeah it's been there for a while, I just use it for some occasional fun.>;D
 
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Stole: I still really like my Sewell. I just ordered the Topping TP22 (TK2050 Chipset) on Amazon. Worst case scenario is I'll simply return it & be out a few bucks for shipping. In regards to the NAD D3020 posts, they were made in February & there has been 3 firmware upgrades since. It's truly a wonderful amp & I can simply bypass the internal OB sound with the internal DAC. Stole...There really is a real difference when you listen to the NAD & the Sewell. The NAD is rated for 30 WPC @ 8 Ohm's, but it feels like 60WPC+ Wonderful soundstage & it just "fits" both the B4's & the B6's speakers.

http://www.amazon.com/Signstek-Trip...8&qid=1403636067&sr=8-2&keywords=topping+TK22

I own both the PSB B4's & the B6's The B6's are in the same room (12'x14' yes...it's complete overkill) paired with a Marantz SR-4006 AV receiver & NAD CD player. I still use CD's every now & again. I own a 1TB back-up HD & it's a dedicated music HD. It's loaded-up pretty well.

I have the same soundcard as you (SB Z Retail version) that's sitting in my closet unopened. I was planning on using it for my new computer build in the Fall, but I don't think I'll need it with my NAD D3020.

I don't consider myself a true audiophile, but I do own some really decent equipment. I love my 2-channel set-up in my "man-cave" This is "my" ultimate listening pleasure. I find it hard to beat for the money I spent.

Rogue Audio Magnum 66 Pre-Amp with 70's (NOS British) Mullard Tubes
NAD C270 Amps (x2) Bi-Amped
NAD C543 CD Player
Music Hall MMF-5 TT
Golden Ear Triton Three Towers Speakers

You might think I'm a name brand whore, but the system above is really that good. The Golden Ear's have an insane ribbon tweeter that is like no other. We all must remember that sound is so subjective! What I like, doesn't mean it will get it gone for you. BTW....my local dealer has your Mourdaunt-Short Aviano 2's still in stock @ $299.00 I think they have Black & Walnut finish left over.

Quick Edit: Here's the link for my beloved GoldenEar Triton 3's:

http://www.goldenear.com/products/triton-series
 
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I didn't call you anything. There are plenty of cases where more money buys quality, but I just think you ought to stop considering price as any kind of 100% assured qualifier.. There are methods of semi-objective analysis to anything. Price just isn't one of them (especially in the audio world, people are bad about this). Anyway the TP22 is really random one to pick; I haven't heard much about it, but I hope you enjoy trying it out.

As for the Aviano 2's, feel free to try them out if you want lol. I wish I had a local dealer. =_=; Honestly I really like mine but I feel the bass is a bit much for me sometimes (drowns out details on a few tracks). Then again a lot of music overemphasizes bass so it's very likely just bad recording anyway. I'm just really surprised how I can actually feel things on the floor coming from these speakers sometimes. David Garrett's Viva la Vida cover sounded great on them for instance, and it has both bass and highs and everything in between. Soon enough I'll be getting my Beyerdynamic T1 earphones in, and I can pair them with an O2 amp + DAC to see how that goes. I just feel like sometimes detail is missing with my speaker sets in general, so I'm pretty interested in trying these earphones out.

But this is getting off-track. Again my main point was just that I wanted to guide his buying decision to something more proven, tested, and widely liked. Whether that's the Topping or some of the other amps that you linked in your last post is up to him. Just the Sewell isn't my idea of that.

Edit... Why does the one you bought say "Signstek"... weird. Hope it's just another seller of this:
http://www.amazon.com/Topping-TK205...8&qid=1403643124&sr=1-1&keywords=topping+tp22
 
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Yes...I just picked-up on that. Maybe I should cancel & reorder. It looks like the same Topping. I'm going to e-mail to confirm this. Stole: Good eye.

EDIT: It's the Topping TK22. Just received a confirming e-mail from Seller. Looks like I'll receive it mid next week with the free shipping option. I'll chime back & let you know what I think. Maybe this is a myth, but I noticed some people saying the Topping needs a few hours for break-in duty. Any truth to that Stole?
 
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Not terribly sure. For one, I have a different model (mine's the TP20MK2) than the one you're getting... but yours still should sound good. Two, it could be different for each individual amp.... but since that's the first I've heard of it, it might just be that guy not being used to its sound signature and then getting used to it over time.

I mean mine sounded excellent out of the box, but I wasn't pairing it with something that is as good as what you're pairing yours with. Back then mine were just pair of Ebay Paradigm Atom V3's. Which are great speakers, just probably not quite as good as your PSB B4's or B6's.

This goes without saying, but try to keep an unclouded mind when you're judging it lol.
 
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Stole: Paradigm V3's are nothing to sneeze at. Think all Paradigm speakers are excellent. Shall do with the "open mind" Hell....I have no problem to admitting if the Topping sounds better. Sure get's solid reviews. I won't return the Sewell (It still have 2 weeks if I wanted to) Not worth the hassle for $50.00 I've been doing some research on the TDA7492 chipset & although it has more power, it's seems like the Tripath TK2050 is more musical. I just hope it can drive my PSB B4's with only an 85 dB sensitivity @ 8 ohms.
 
Boy I didn't realize this would start such a lively debate. I have to wait for amazon to refund me for my other amp before I buy another one. Keep in mind here guys I am only driving a pair of Polk monitor 30s so they are not exactly uber high end speakers. What I want is a T amp (or class D) that will drive these with decent volume without much distortion. I don't have much space in my setup or I would just bring home an old kenwood amp my parents have.
 
It's not about how high end the speakers you're driving are. It's just really that the price for something that is likely better is only a little more, and then you don't need to worry about it for longer. This was mainly about superior choice for a consumer in general. I don't like seeing people beta test something that only has 2 ratings whereas time-tested good alternatives that are equal to or (and very likely) better) available. You can either take one of those Toppings or one of the three amps that are supposedly similar to the Sewell that UMASS linked. Those have high reviews. I'm not sure how the Tripath amps compare to those three. According to some reviews, better, but it's only a few comparisons available. So at that point it's up to you. A lot of this large debate didn't need to happen.
 
My point is not that proven things are bad. My point is that there are several limiting factors in the system. The DAC being used is not a good one. At least I can't imagine it is given the lack of any specs as to it's resolution among other things. I will probably go with the topping due to the higher quality components which I believe more then anything will benefit me in longevity rather then SQ.
 
I know your point was that you had other limiting factors. But do you plan to always keep it that way? That's my point. Even if you are, you lose nothing except a paltry (it's very little) bit of cash by going to a more proven better component. Whether you care about sound quality or not now, that can change. No point setting yourself up worse before you even start. It'll only cost you more money in the long run. I would understand if the alternative costed like 20 bucks, but it's really only a tiny bit cheaper.
 
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My point is not that proven things are bad. My point is that there are several limiting factors in the system. The DAC being used is not a good one. At least I can't imagine it is given the lack of any specs as to it's resolution among other things. I will probably go with the topping due to the higher quality components which I believe more then anything will benefit me in longevity rather then SQ.
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Give it a try. The worst scenario it will cost you a few bucks for a return. I would go with the Topping TK22 as it has a few more WPC. Again (as Stole mentioned) it will cost a few extra bucks. I do like my Sewell amp just the same. It drives my lower sensitivity PSB B4's without an issue. Please take a minute & chime back & let us know what you think!
 
Stole: I cancelled my order for the Topping TP22 & ordered this instead:

http://www.parts-express.com/topping-tp60-tripath-ta2022-50wpc-(80wpc-4-ohm)-mini-amplifier--310-326

The Topping TP60 has the power I'm looking for. Good thing my wife & I don't have kids, as I couldn't buy all the things I want. I purchased it from Parts Express & delivery will be on Monday. It's a tad expensive considering I don't use my XP build in my basement that much, but what the hell. I'm chime back once & give it a good workout!
 
UMASS said:
Stole: I cancelled my order for the Topping TP22 & ordered this instead:

http://www.parts-express.com/topping-tp60-tripath-ta2022-50wpc-(80wpc-4-ohm)-mini-amplifier--310-326

The Topping TP60 has the power I'm looking for. Good thing my wife & I don't have kids, as I couldn't buy all the things I want. I purchased it from Parts Express & delivery will be on Monday. It's a tad expensive considering I don't use my XP build in my basement that much, but what the hell. I'm chime back once & give it a good workout!
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I'm not sure if I follow the logic. Why would you pay over 200 bucks for a China brand when you could get a new 5x165W 3D capable Denon amp for the price?
 
B00nie said:
I'm not sure if I follow the logic. Why would you pay over 200 bucks for a China brand when you could get a new 5x165W 3D capable Denon amp for the price?[/QUOTE

SIZE & I don't worry about money (well to an extent) Worst case scenario, I'll ship it back for a refund! Just testing the waters so to speak.
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Well at this point I don't even think you're using the same chip. Some have noted that it sounds different from the others; "almost a tube-like sound" according to some guy. See how you like it just keep in mind you maybe a little ways away from the one I was talking about originally lol. Also that one seems to have some more QC issues despite its price, so be careful.

@B00nie, I know it's expensive for a T-Amp, but would the Denon sound anywhere near as good? >_> Most of those cheap receivers aren't good for music iirc.
 
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