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I was so CLOSE to buying a gigabyte FM2+ sniper G1 for $114 + amd athlon 760k (though i wanted more then 4 cores) for $200 + shipping. Then i almost bought a FX8320 + overclocking motherboard for $275...

This morning someone posted Xeon L5639 for $79 in the hot deals section and I thought "screw it... going dark side". I know the AMD section hates the trolls, but im just trying to share my displeasure of having to do this. I am a die hard AMD fan since my first 486 DX2 80mhz, but its getting pretty hard to justify the purchase anymore. Six core twelve thread intels for $80? heck, the last few systems i built were core i7-920 with ram, quality motherboards for $150 shipped -- Ive kept an eye out for used AMD builds, but they are rare and when they do pop up cost a lot more then the used intel stuff that seems so common.
 
I myself prefer AMD over Intel for idealistic reasons, but sometimes when you see a ridiculous deal, you just gotta jump on it. Can't blame you at all. ;)
 
id like to purchase one

would this chip bottleneck any card within the next 3 yrs? I just want to do 1080p gaming, thanks
 
would this chip bottleneck any card within the next 3 yrs?
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Unless you overclock it I would say yes. This is a 2.13 GHz CPU. Also I think if we continue to discuss an Intel CPU we should move the thread to the appropriate forum..
 
etegv said:
id like to purchase one

would this chip bottleneck any card within the next 3 yrs? I just want to do 1080p gaming, thanks
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Yes. The 1366 CPU's are only bottlenecking the highest end of setups right now (multiple video cards, multiple monitors, etc.). However, most of those results I have seen are from highly overclocked CPU's. This is a 2.13ghz CPU, slower than most of the other consumer level 1366 CPU's that were released. It may have more cores, but most games won't get an advantage or at the very least the 2 extra cores won't make up for 1ghz+ of speed plus a rather large IPC advantage. You are better off getting any 8 core AMD FX chip or an Intel Haswell setup.

In other words...
Would it bottleneck a GTX Titan? maybe, not much.
Would it bottleneck the inevitable successors that will be cheaper and faster? Yes.
 
drescherjm said:
Unless you overclock it I would say yes. This is a 2.13 GHz CPU. Also I think if we continue to discuss an Intel CPU we should move the thread to the appropriate forum..
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CaptNumbNutz said:
Yes. The 1366 CPU's are only bottlenecking the highest end of setups right now (multiple video cards, multiple monitors, etc.). However, most of those results I have seen are from highly overclocked CPU's. This is a 2.13ghz CPU, slower than most of the other consumer level 1366 CPU's that were released. It may have more cores, but most games won't get an advantage or at the very least the 2 extra cores won't make up for 1ghz+ of speed plus a rather large IPC advantage. You are better off getting any 8 core AMD FX chip or an Intel Haswell setup.

In other words...
Would it bottleneck a GTX Titan? maybe, not much.
Would it bottleneck the inevitable successors that will be cheaper and faster? Yes.
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thanks a lot for the advice. Looks like Ill avoid it and get something better.
 
NaroonGTX said:
I myself prefer AMD over Intel for idealistic reasons, but sometimes when you see a ridiculous deal, you just gotta jump on it. Can't blame you at all. ;)
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Exactly, i cringe buying intel --- but at least im buying used which to me is a lot less dirty then paying full MSRP. I am pretty excited that im getting my first sabertooth board, ive always wanted one of these but i tend to skimp and get an asrock extreme4 or something thats $100 cheaper.
 
if you are who I think you are you switch your PC every 5 minutes anywaysand you buying a used intel processor isn't going to impact anything.

and 12 threads @ 2.13 ghz isn't really good value for the performance anyways, not in my opinion.
 
I never looked at the clockspeed, that is pretty low. If it can't be overclocked, I'd say skip it. And yeah, since it's used, Intel wouldn't receive a penny from the purchase anyway, lol. :p
 
Yeah I saw that proc for sale as well.

It would be great for visualization, but not for a desktop or single purpose system.
 
NaroonGTX said:
I never looked at the clockspeed, that is pretty low. If it can't be overclocked, I'd say skip it. And yeah, since it's used, Intel wouldn't receive a penny from the purchase anyway, lol. :p
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I don't remember that chip well, but I'm pretty sure it is overclockable. I doubt it can do 4.0, but maybe 3.2-3.6? OP got a good deal on it.
 
I believe the multiplier is locked but you can overclock by raising the BCLK from 133 to possibly 200.
 
At $79/chip those Xeons would be good for server stuff or some programming projects I have in mind. If I could find a board at the right price I might bite if I didn't have these quad socket F Opteron machines. I wouldn't mess with those Xeons for games though. Per core speed is too low. It'll run games like a slow Nehalem quad core most of the time. If you want to stick with AMD I'd just go with an FX and a good overclocking board.
 
Per core speed is too low.
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Given the IPC advantage I would expect the per core performance to be at stock in the neighborhood of a stock FX 8120 with turbo disabled.
 
L5639 will do 3.6+ easily on a quality motherboard. For the price that is pretty hard to beat. Most people run 18x200 or 18x205 on them.
 
You switched based on the 'value' of a used, low-end Xeon chip from a Chinese seller on eBay? And then made a thread about it?
 
Centauri said:
You switched based on the 'value' of a used, low-end Xeon chip from a Chinese seller on eBay? And then made a thread about it?
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This x 1000...........I run Intel but wouldn't hesitate buying an FX 6300/50 and a Sabertooth 990FX.
 
bigdogchris said:
But slow cores. Depending on what you do that chip, you'll likely be slower than going with a 3-4GHZ Intel quad core.
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Those chips are being bought up by people who overclock. It is possible to get those chips up above 3.8Ghz with a good board.
 
LigTasm said:
L5639 will do 3.6+ easily on a quality motherboard. For the price that is pretty hard to beat. Most people run 18x200 or 18x205 on them.
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Isn't the multiplier 16?

I mean 16 X 133 = 2.128GHz

Edit: I assume turbo will allow 18X.
 
drescherjm said:
Isn't the multiplier 16?

I mean 16 X 133 = 2.128GHz

Edit: I assume turbo will allow 18X.
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Yep, base is 16 but a decent board will allow you to push 18 just like current locked sandy/ivy chips will let you bump up to the max turbo bin.
 
DeathFromBelow said:
This. You would have gotten better performance from an FX8320, even at stock speeds...
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I had an FX8320 and overclocked it to 4.9ghz on cinebench i scored 8.92 I think. Guys with these L5639 chips overclocked to 4ghz are getting around 9.5. The overclock is limited by the motherboard BCLK (190-210) I am curious how much it will draw under full load, my FX8320 took 1.55 to run 4.9ghz and just the cpu was pulling 330watts under full load going from idle to 100% utilization

Then dont forget this was $80, used FX8320 are going for $120+ IF you can even find a used one...
 
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