Switching back to AMD... got some Q's

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Lantano

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OK decided that my P3.0D @ 3.5 Ghz, 469 DDR just ain't cutting it anymore. I recently picked up one of the clearance OEM X800XT-PE AGP for $238 so I need to stick with an AGP mobo for now. Last time that I had an AMD system in the house it was a Athlon XP +2500 @ +3200(2.2 Ghz) so I'm a little out of touch with the current AMD tech... sooo many options!

Seems like the consensus in these forums for the best socket 939 AGP mobo is the MSI K8N Neo2 platinum. So now I need to get a CPU.... I'm thinking X64 +3800 with the 1mb cache. System will be used primarily for gaming, web surfing, and extracting large zip files.

Any suggestions? ... also heatsink fan recommendations?
 
i think the x2 3800+ only has 512kb of l2 cache...but it also has a lower price premium than the upper x2's...but its a good CPU especially if u are used to a multitaskin processor...can overclock quite well might i add...as for heatsinks, the xp-90(c) and a 92mm fan seems to do the trick :)
 
mpcamer1220 said:
X2 has a total of 1mb l2. 512k/core. Regular 3800 has 512k total.
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depends on the cpu actually.. sorta. this is true for the 3800+, but..

512kb per core (1mb total)
3800+ = 2.0ghz
4200+ = 2.2ghz
4600+ = 2.4ghz

1mb per core (2mb total)
4400+ = 2.2ghz
4800+ = 2.4ghz
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
depends on the cpu actually.. sorta. this is true for the 3800+, but..

512kb per core (1mb total)
3800+ = 2.0ghz
4200+ = 2.2ghz
4600+ = 2.4ghz

1mb per core (2mb total)
4400+ = 2.2ghz
4800+ = 2.4ghz
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I was talking about the X2 as in 3800 X2 :p in response to when he said the 3800 x2 has 512k l2.


C'mon Eclipse I know the differenece between Toledos and Manchesters ;) :D
 
mpcamer1220 said:
C'mon Eclipse I know the differenece between Toledos and Manchesters ;) :D
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shhh, i know that. i figured i'd just point out all the models so far, just so people know what the deal is. i'm still waiting for a 4000+ X2 :p
 
Heh, if I didn't spend a lot of my money on AMD shirts and if I didn't just buy a raid card and another 160gb harddrive.. and soon I am buying a xp-90... I could have an X2... Even if its just the 3800 :(
 
hehe, well remember that i've still got "lowly" s754 :D

one thing to note though, it seems that the 4200+ and 4600+ aren't real manchesters, just hacked down toledo's. i doubt all of em are like that.. but it seems to be that way
 
I feel like if he had a 3.5 ghz p4 before he's gonna need something with more horsepower than the 3800+ x2. Unless you want to play the AMD overclocking game, then I reverse my opinion and say grab the 3800+ x2 and enjoy the multitasking goodness. If you really wanted to have some fun I'd ebay the video card and then jump on the PCI-E train with nf4.
 
Thanks for the replies....

Ok, put it this way; what AMD CPU would be an upgrade from my P4 3.0 @ 3.5 Ghz?

Or should I just wait???
 
Lantano said:
Thanks for the replies....

Ok, put it this way; what AMD CPU would be an upgrade from my P4 3.0 @ 3.5 Ghz?

Or should I just wait???
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if your gaming just about every amd 64 cpu :p

if you dont care about multi task perf. the 3000+ venice or 3200+ venice would be the best choices if you plan to overclock.
 
Wildace said:
if your gaming just about every amd 64 cpu :p

if you dont care about multi task perf. the 3000+ venice or 3200+ venice would be the best choices if you plan to overclock.
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What do you guys think about the 3700+ San Diego cores? From the posts I've read they seem to be decent overclockers...

Oh, BTW anyone know what I'm potentially missing out on by sticking with a NF3 AGP board(MSI K8N) vs the newer NF4 PCIE motherboards? I would hate to give up the X800XT PE AGP card I just got for only $238. Sure, the 7800GT would be better, but not at twice the price!
 
from a guy that has had a 3.0c @ 3.6ghz, a64 3200+ venice @ 2.6ghz, and now a x2 3800+ @ 2.8ghz.... and plays games and does a lot of multi-tasking (graphic design, website creation, etc etc) .......... there was very little to no difference in either gaming or multitasking among those three setups i had. only thing better was benchmarks, where amd64 won. if i were you, i'd beef up the video card and call it a day.
 
YourPaceOrMine said:
from a guy that has had a 3.0c @ 3.6ghz, a64 3200+ venice @ 2.6ghz, and now a x2 3800+ @ 2.8ghz.... and plays games and does a lot of multi-tasking (graphic design, website creation, etc etc) .......... there was very little to no difference in either gaming or multitasking among those three setups i had. only thing better was benchmarks, where amd64 won. if i were you, i'd beef up the video card and call it a day.
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I agree with this guy.
 
only difference is that i use to idle in the high 40s with my northy ... not i idle in the mid 30s with my x2. cant wait til winter, then i can crank the volts up and my room wont get hot.
 
The more I thought about you guys are right.... I might go to 2 gigs from 1 but I think I can stand PAT with my 3.0 @3.52 Ghz and my X800XTPE....at least for this round!
 
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