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Swiftech Apogee Review.

R1ckCa1n said:
This could work as I am redoing my loop yet again this Friday, if Sharka gets their order.

I would love to see the overclocking difference with your CPU loop. Maybe we could remove my IHS? lol
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i like where this is going, collaboration. even if no one actually clocks better maybe the 2 of yous can get together and IN REAL LIFE, see the diff setups and how nice they are on their own merits... and possibly quell some of the extreneous parts of the discussion. and then show a 1c diff. ha!

rick im still finiding ways to get cash in hopes.... bout to sell my ps2 hahaha
 
el rolio said:
i like where this is going, collaboration. even if no one actually clocks better maybe the 2 of yous can get together and IN REAL LIFE, see the diff setups and how nice they are on their own merits... and possibly quell some of the extreneous parts of the discussion. and then show a 1c diff. ha!

rick im still finiding ways to get cash in hopes.... bout to sell my ps2 hahaha
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Actually it would be an honor to meet him as he is well know and respected. I am sure I can learn a lot from him and his overclocking skillz.

I talked to Wes and I will know Monday or Tuesday if you get my Aquaero.
 
after reading that review, i am seriously considering NOT to get the apex kit, unless I get a storm...
 
how do you open up the Apogee to check for shavings? I should get mine in on Wed and wanna know what im doing when it gets here. Any other defects to look for besides a cracked top? I'll be sure to post pics...
 
Budwise said:
how do you open up the Apogee to check for shavings? I should get mine in on Wed and wanna know what im doing when it gets here. Any other defects to look for besides a cracked top? I'll be sure to post pics...
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dented rad, leaky res, cracked top on the apogee, shavings inside of the apogee......i think that about covers it, from what i have read, and that's more than i would be willing to deal with.
 
This just posted by Gabe at XtremeSystems.org:

The following tests have been conducted specifically for the purpose of verifying the allegations published by a forum member (Orkan) comparing overclocking performance between an Apogee and a Storm water-block, where it was reported that under the same circumstances (same CPU/motherboard platform etc..)the Storm yielded a 100Mhz higher overclock than the Apogee (2.8 Ghz instead of 2.7 Ghz).

The reason why we questionned this report in the first place was the scale of the alleged difference. In effect a 100 Mhz increase on a CPU operating at 2.7Mhz is a 3% increase in processor frequency. Why doubt such a difference ? An Integrated Circuit Industry rule of thumb states that an IC will gain an average of 2 to 3% in frequency for every 10°C drop in operating temperature. We have practically verified this rule many, many times. So, while the actual CPU temperatures from one testing methodology to another can be argued ad nauseam, the report published by this user suggested to us that the CPU was actually "seeing" about a 10C drop in junction temperature, in effect resulting in this 3% frequency increase.

This, we knew to be highly implausible.

Our tests were conducted in the same fashion as a typical overclocker would.

Equipment:
Motherboard: Asus A8N Sli Deluxe
CPU: AMD A64 X2 4400+ - Unmodified (with IHS)
Waterblocks: Storm and Apogee taken straight from inventory and used "as is"
Radiator: Triple 120mm CF prototype with fans operating at 5 Volts (silent mode)
Pump: MCP655
Vcore: 1.52V (motherboard max)
OS Window 2003 Server

Since CPU overclock was the main object of this test, the memory was set to a 1/2 ratio in order to make sure that no instability would result from the memory.

Processor Load was induced by using 2 tasks of CPU Burn, one per core (Set Affinity function).

The CPU temperature was read using Asus Probe. The Air temperature was measured with an Omega thermometer and its thermocouple placed 1 foot away from the fans intake.

OC procedure:
Starting windows at 2750MHz (250*11), starting CPUZ (v1.30), set 2 tasks of CPU burn (as described above).
If no crash after 20minutes, record the results, launch clockgen and increased the HTT by one increment.
Repeat until windows crashed.

Important Note: this procedure does not provide a full measure of CPU stability but we feel is perfectly adapted to indicate overclockability within a relatively short period of time.

This being said, the results are:

With Storm, we started at 2750, and subsequently passed 2755, 2764, 2771 and reached an immediate fail at a 2781Mhz setting. So for the Storm the final "stable" overclock was 2771MHz with a final air temperature of 23.1C. The CPU temperature (reported by Asus probe) occillated between 47C and 48C.

With Apogee, we passed 2750, 2755, 2764, 2771 and 2781MHz. Windows crashed finally at 2788MHz after 10minutes. So the "pass" for this test is 2781 at an air temperature of 23.2C and CPU temperature stable on the 47C mark.

To us, the above results simply indicate one thing: there does not appear to be ANY significant difference in overclocking abilities between these two water-blocks and with this processor.
 
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