Suggestions/Help with NCASE M1 Planned Build

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Peter_364

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Hello this is my first build ever (yay)
I will be using the NCASE M1 for this build
just going to answer loads of questions first like it tells me to:

This PC is going to be used mainly for games and a tiny bit of 3D modelling + game design

I may or may not be overclocking because I am not sure how complicated it is

Budget ~ $2000 preferably can go over if necessary

I will need to end up with a computer that works (another way of saying everything without saying it)

However I have in my possession a WD 1TB HDD 3.5"

Specific features: I don't need that many USB 3.0 slots?

Resolution: be able to support 1080p minimum

This build needs to be able to fit inside the NCASE M1 and I would prefer to have an optical drive even if I am just going to cover it up.

I am not very comfortable with case modification but have done some basic metal work in the past although I don't have many tools for it

I would like the build to be as quiet as possible without compromising performance

I currently do have a windows 7 64 bit OS key but I might consider using 8.1 or whatever is suggested

I plan on buying the parts for this PC this summer (July) however it does depend on weather the NCASE is delivered and if the new silverstone SFX PSU is availible

To conclude: I want this build to be the best it can possibly be for the price and if you have any suggestions or criticisms do not be hesitant to post :D

Also here is my current plan and does anyone have any suggestions for a custom cooled GTX 780Ti that would fit in the NCASE (as i believe some are too wide)?

Ok I have some plans for watercooling and I want to see what you guys think:
Everything is by Swiftech because I thought that would make sure they are compatible
H220 CPU cooler + pump + radiator (with small reservoir inside)
I asked Swiftech and they said they would be releasing a new Komodo full cover water block for the GTX 780Ti in "the next couple of weeks" so I plan to use that.
 
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I'm sure you'll get better and more thorough answers from others with more experience but here are a few thoughts:

I'd suggest VLP memory, (unless I'm reading your parts picker wrong?). A lot of folks have good luck with Crucial Ballistix Sport VLP

You could consider graphics card with a rear exhaust, as recommended by NCASE. It looks like the one you have vents into the case. I've seen folks prefer both kinds, so eh.
Maybe like this?

Is this your very first time building a computer? Sounded like perhaps? How confident are you with the water cooling? You could simplify a bit by just air cooling.

I'm not sure what the latest news is on release date for the Silverstone 600w SFX PSU, or if it will be available when you need. Not sure if you'll need more power for the 780? Others can probably answer that. There's a thread in this forum about the 600w.

I hope that is a start on helping. Best wishes for your build.
 
Thanks for the reply :)
I did think about using that RAM however the ones I am currently using is also low profile ram and is about the same size (I actually think its about 4mm smaller) as well as being quite a bit cheaper.
I agree with you on the GPU in the fact that it should be rear exhaust but I kinda wanted a custom cooled one because they look nice but I will change it for now and think about custom cards later.
I am unsure on the water cooling but since I (think I) have chosen a closed loop cooler I hope it should be reasonably simple.
 
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I did think about using that RAM however the ones I am currently using is also low profile ram and is about the same size (I actually think its about 4mm smaller) as well as being quite a bit cheaper.
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I think the Crucial VLP are actually much shorter than the Vengeance LP, but you're on the right track :)

You're really not going to be looking at the internals too often after your build is complete, so I wouldn't buy a non-blower GPU card solely because they look nice. Others have used non-reference coolers with success, but I'm sure there's a thermal reason why the designer recommended the blower style.

Case modification and metal work really shouldn't be necessary at all, if you plan your build parts correctly.
 
Thanks guys, especially for that spreadsheet said "Corsair LP ram doesn't fit tested"(with the CPU cooler) so adjusted my build accordingly including Crucial VLP, and thanks for the advice about the GPU.

I wasn't ever expecting to do any case modification however it said in the other thread about how I should post about wanting help so I just wrote it down anyway.
 
I'm not the best builder but I did mine as follows:

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040670960&postcount=160

which is based on Phuncz' air-cooled build at the beginning of that thread.

Some thoughts:

1. I used a Noctua NH-L12. It's a really nice cooler, but if you are not OC'ing, I suspect a NH-L9i is OK. They say recommended CPU TDP is ~ 65W, but hey, if what you're replacing is the stock Intel cooler anyway...
2. Blower style card from eVGA w/ a lower TDP nvidia card is probably the best bet if you aren't looking to push things. My eVGA GTX670 is probably overkill for 1080p gaming; the 760ti is probably even better. You could do the AMD 290's or nvidia 780's but...<shrug>
3. I didn't need VLP when using the NH-L12, just used the normal sized DIMM with heatsinks that don't rise up too high. Mushkin silverlines are ok, I'm sure whatever crucial or corsair has in that dept would work too.
4. the heatsink is the biggest obstacle to putting stuff together, IMHO. Order in which you install things is prob key. I'd say something along the lines of:

1. put CPU in and mount cooler backing plate
2. put board in
3. plug cables into board
4. plug ram into board
5. install CPU and plug in cables, maybe GPU
6. then put in heatsink.
 
Thanks,
I'm not sure on the cooling because the radiator has had some bad reviews that it is noisy and the pump breaks frequently, however I would like to keep with water cooling and especially with the option to expand it over the graphics card, and since I know this radiator fits in other peoples builds and can be expanded to cover the graphics card if need be. I also appreciate the advice for putting the components together. :D

Ok I also have some new plans for watercooling and I want to see what you guys think everything is by Swiftech because I thought that would make sure they are compatible and be simpler
H220 CPU cooler + pump + radiator (with small reservoir inside)
I asked Swiftech and they said they would be releasing a new Komodo full cover water block for the GTX 780Ti in "the next couple of weeks" so I plan to use that.

I am not sure but I think another pump might be necessary so I plan to use the MCP350 which I hope will be able to fit in the spare 3.5" bay because it will only extend ~1cm below the bay.
I am not that sure with liquid cooling though and was wondering if i should run a parallel circuit? or a series one? and if i need a reservoir even though i have a mini one in the radiator and if i should create an air trap

Talked to some people on buildapc IRC and they said it would be fine without a pump or parallel circuit thing
 
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Ok if anyone is interested I plan to build the system in the Corsair 250D depending on the delivery date of the M1 so that I can quickly transfer the parts when it comes and can mess about with the water cooling in that since I will have more space. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3v0kq
 
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