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Hi all, first post here. Not sure if this is the correct sub-forum. Looking to improve speed / time for encoding Blue Ray disc / MKV video format to MP4 for my ipad. This is a system that I put together a little over 2 years ago. Currently takes 20-30 minutes for a single encode from MKV to MP4. I am not a gamer as you can see on my signature. Just really want to reduce processing time in half if that is at all possible.

1. I did some quick searches on the web and found the i7-5775C for a direct drop in replacement for the i5-3570K. No new motherboard required. However, this processor is something like $400 to $500 for older technology. Still don't know if this upgrade alone will cut processing time in half.

2. Go to entirely new format - Z170 or X99? Again, don't know if this will even do what I want.
Also, I don't know if adding a video card will help will the encoding process. What do you suggest?
If I need to put a new system together, I will probably wait for Kaby Lake. Again, I look forward to your suggestions. Thanks.
 
What program are you using for encoding? Does it support HT? A potential solution can be better derived after knowing that info. Honestly, if you are spending $400 I'd rather future proof a bit more and get a i7-5820k with more cores and threads.
 
The i7-5775c will not work in that system. It's socket is LGA-1150, while the i5-3570k is LGA-1155. Anyways, while it is a bit newer and has a couple of other advantages, it's not going to be a substantial improvement. Same is true of Skylake and probably the upcoming Kaby Lake.

Going up to a Broadwell-E/X99 system might help a bit, assuming the encoder can make use of additional cores. But even then it's only two additional (plus hyperthreading) unless you have gobs of money to throw at this to get an 8 or 10 core part. Is it really worth $1000+ just to convert videos a few minutes faster?

Top of my head, everything I recall about GPU encoders is that they may sometimes be a bit faster, but the quality often suffers.

I don't think you're going to be able to cut the encode time in half, or even get close. Were it me, I'd simply download a copy of Handbrake, queue up a bunch of videos I wanted to convert, and let it run overnight or when I'm otherwise not using the system.
 
evilwon said:
What program are you using for encoding? Does it support HT? A potential solution can be better derived after knowing that info. Honestly, if you are spending $400 I'd rather future proof a bit more and get a i7-5820k with more cores and threads.
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I use MakeMKV to rip my BD to MKV format. Next, I use Freemake to edit the file and convert from MKV to MP4 for the ipad. Don't know if either pieces of software supports hyperthreading. I will only spend if I can decent performance. 10-20% for that amount would be silly. Thanks
 
BlueLineSwinger said:
The i7-5775c will not work in that system. It's socket is LGA-1150, while the i5-3570k is LGA-1155. Anyways, while it is a bit newer and has a couple of other advantages, it's not going to be a substantial improvement. Same is true of Skylake and probably the upcoming Kaby Lake.

Going up to a Broadwell-E/X99 system might help a bit, assuming the encoder can make use of additional cores. But even then it's only two additional (plus hyperthreading) unless you have gobs of money to throw at this to get an 8 or 10 core part. Is it really worth $1000+ just to convert videos a few minutes faster?

Top of my head, everything I recall about GPU encoders is that they may sometimes be a bit faster, but the quality often suffers.

I don't think you're going to be able to cut the encode time in half, or even get close. Were it me, I'd simply download a copy of Handbrake, queue up a bunch of videos I wanted to convert, and let it run overnight or when I'm otherwise not using the system.
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Thanks for the heads up on socket 1150 vs. 1151. I was not aware of such differences. I totally agree that I will not throw a bunch of money to chase 10-20% gain in performance. Never used handbrake before. May try that since you mentioned that I could queue up more than 1 file at a time and run overnight. Do you know if Handbrake support hyperthreading?
 
Handbrake supports it. I'd see what you get from that first. Handbrake is simple once you figure out the interface - which should take about 5 minutes max. Queue them up and let them go overnight.
 
Does using a second scratch disk of SSD variety make a difference? That way it isn't bottlenecking itself?
 
evilwon said:
Handbrake supports it. I'd see what you get from that first. Handbrake is simple once you figure out the interface - which should take about 5 minutes max. Queue them up and let them go overnight.
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Thanks. I will give it a try. Although my curent i5 do not support hyperthreading.
 
DrLobotomy said:
Does using a second scratch disk of SSD variety make a difference? That way it isn't bottlenecking itself?
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I like to know also since large capacity SSD are relatively inexpensive compare to a couple years back. Currently, I write the file to my 3TB HDD.
 
I don't believe so, unless the disk you are using is having issues or something. I mean, it might help a little bit, but probably not noticeable. You could just get the i7 version of your current CPU though right, or at least see if there are some reviews and benchmarks out there to even see if there are a large enough difference to warrant the money.

Actually, after googling it: i5 3570k vs i7 3770k handbrake - I didn't find the results to be worth the cost.
 
BlueLineSwinger said:
The i7-5775c will not work in that system. It's socket is LGA-1150, while the i5-3570k is LGA-1155. .
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And if you go with a Broadwell cpu be aware that it works only on z97/h97 chipset. Handbrake can also take advantage of the Quicsync unit and the one on Haswell cpus is very fast!
 
Until you get a new chip, just use Handbrake and play with the presets and use the one that is fast enough for you. If they are just for ipad and not permanent transcodes they don't need to be perfect, though no transcode is perfect anyway. You can easily more than cut your encode time in half and still get good quality/size ratio.
 
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No modern hard drive is the bottleneck for encoding. You're wasting money utilizing a SSD for that. Honestly, you're wasting money storing video on a SSD. Won't help with ripping, encoding, or playback. Cheaper options work just as well and you get more storage.
 
if the program is heavily multithread, the best CPU for the buck is actually something like a e5-2670 v1 which nowaday is around $60-70. 8 core/16 thread each. and you can get a dual socket built with about 128GB ram for about $700-900. That would be much faster than anything single chip.
 
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