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SSD and raid BSOD

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valcone424

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Hello all. I have a little problem with some of my new parts I got for the first wave of my build. I have an older ASUS M4N82 Deluxe motherboard with 980a chipset. Here is a link: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM2Plus/M4N82_Deluxe/ It has the MediaShield raid with Nvidia and sata 2. I have recently got 2 Kingston HyperX SSD's that work in sata 3 and new video card. I had the previous raid on 2 WD Raptor drives (I believe those were sata 2) and no issues. I have taken those out and added in the new ssd's, and setup the raid with the built in utility like I had my raptors. The setup goes fine, install windows 7 64bit goes fine, and restarts and everything and I get to the "Starting Windows" screen with the dancing logo. It starts loading and the colors are coming together and then make the logo and sit there for a moment, and then right when its about to go away and boot into windows, I get a BSOD.

It reads:

(normal header for the BSOD then...)

STOP: 0x0000007B (0xFFFFF88009A9928, 0xFFFFFFFFC0000034, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000)

then also tells me to run CHKDSK /F


I have already followed Kingston's instructions step-by-step to update the firmware with no luck, I get to the same BSOD.

I'm think it has something to do with the sata 2 mobo and sata 3 ssd's???

Any input?

Thanks ahead of time!!!
 
Are you installing the RAID drivers during the installation of windows?
 
valcone424 said:
Hello all. I have a little problem with some of my new parts I got for the first wave of my build. I have an older ASUS M4N82 Deluxe motherboard with 980a chipset. Here is a link: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM2Plus/M4N82_Deluxe/ It has the MediaShield raid with Nvidia and sata 2. I have recently got 2 Kingston HyperX SSD's that work in sata 3 and new video card. I had the previous raid on 2 WD Raptor drives (I believe those were sata 2) and no issues. I have taken those out and added in the new ssd's, and setup the raid with the built in utility like I had my raptors. The setup goes fine, install windows 7 64bit goes fine, and restarts and everything and I get to the "Starting Windows" screen with the dancing logo. It starts loading and the colors are coming together and then make the logo and sit there for a moment, and then right when its about to go away and boot into windows, I get a BSOD.

It reads:

(normal header for the BSOD then...)

STOP: 0x0000007B (0xFFFFF88009A9928, 0xFFFFFFFFC0000034, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000)

then also tells me to run CHKDSK /F


I have already followed Kingston's instructions step-by-step to update the firmware with no luck, I get to the same BSOD.

I'm think it has something to do with the sata 2 mobo and sata 3 ssd's???

Any input?

Thanks ahead of time!!!
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7B is an inaccessible boot device. First thing I would try is to make sure all your firmware/bios updates are done and you might want to secure erase both SSD's and try a new fresh install again. Can you post a crash dump?
 
Are you providing Windows with drivers (sometimes called 'F6 drivers') for the onboard RAID controller before you begin the install? I'm not familiar with that board nor the AMD chipset, but you should definitely be loading some driver prior to Windows install.

On the screen where you select the hard drive and/or partition to install to there should be a button to load a driver. Use it and point it to a USB drive, CD, or DVD with the chipset drivers on it.
 
mwroobel: how do i do a secure erase? at work right now, will get a crash dump when i get home.

other responders: i don't recall having to put the driver on the drives during windows install with the raptors. at first however, i was having issues during my install, but tried again with a disk that had sp1 w/ win7 and that fixed my issues. i will however, try doing that method.

thanks for the responses guys! much appreciated!
 
valcone424 said:
mwroobel: how do i do a secure erase? at work right now, will get a crash dump when i get home.

other responders: i don't recall having to put the driver on the drives during windows install with the raptors. at first however, i was having issues during my install, but tried again with a disk that had sp1 w/ win7 and that fixed my issues. i will however, try doing that method.

thanks for the responses guys! much appreciated!
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You definitely DEFINITELY DEFINITELY want to use a Windows 7 install disk with SP1 slipstreamed into it. Vanilla Windows 7 can be flakey when presented with SSDs especially in RAID configurations. I never even mention it anymore because I just figure everyone should have SP1 discs / media by now.

I keep a good fast 8GB USB thumbdrive around with the Windows 7 installer w/ SP1 slipstreamed. It's a geek's best friend. :)
 
Yea, I noticed the flake-y-ness of it with out sp1. Falcon, do you have a good tutorial on how to do the flash drive w/ win7 on it? I'll try and Google on my own, but if there is one you recommend, that would be great.

Also been thinking about the raid drivers and putting them on the drives.

My process is this:
Setup my bios and everything/make sure the raid is on and what not.
Boot up, f10 to get into my raid utility, setup my stripped raid, make it bootable, save and exit. (should i leave the stripe size to optimal, or max it out?)
Boot into the win7 disk/install, wait, go to custom install, select my raid, and install.

Is this correct? Or should I DEFINITELY be putting raid drivers on the ssd's before I install?

Thanks guys!!
 
I had a similar problem the other day when installing windows onto a new ssd.

previously had win7 on 2 120gig ssds in raid0, when installing windows on new non raid ssd, everything worked ok with MS ahci drivers, but when I installed intel irst drivers, since I hadnt cleaned my raided ssd's properly, it caused my new install of windows to crash as soon as I had installed the irst drivers and it would go into a reboot crash loop, only when I hdderase'd the ssd's and then hook em upto the pc did it stop crashing.

Maybe with you having raid on your raptors previously you are suffering from a similar or the same problem ?

If you can and if you wish, run hdderase or something similar on your raided drives that you had previously and then try and see if windows will work. It wouldnt hurt to run hdderase on all your drives and start from afresh if its possible and you if dont have stuff you need to keep on them.

Long shot, but I would never of guessed the cause of my problems was my ssd's, as I had formatted them and killed the partition during win7 setup, but it was obviously not good enough.
 
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Was really busy last night and didn't get a chance to get a log dump. The ssd's are brand new and that shouldn't be a problem wiping them completely. I said screw it and just installed windows regularly on one of the ssd's, so I will just clear them again. Where can I get that hdderase? I will try Google-ing for it when I get home, but a link would be cool!

I'll probably just throw in my old raptors, make sure the raid (and controller) is still working on them, and wipe the ssd's from there. Take the raptors out, and go from there, along with using the slip streamed install for win7.

Thanks for the help so far guys!
 
You will need to enable ide mode in your bios, disable ahci mode for hdderase to see your drives, if once in ide mode for the sata ports, if hdderase doesnt see your drives then plug them into ports 0 or 1.

You will need a windows startup disk on a floppy/cd/dvd or a usb flash drive and a copy of hdderase.exe on it, once the startup disk boots, type hdderase.exe and enter, and then follow the instructions, basically just a case of Y/N and either P0/P1 or S0/S1 and thats it.

Its best to just have one drive attached to your pc at the time incase you wipe the wrong one.

http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/HDDEraseWeb.zip

For SSD's it usually only takes seconds to run hdderase, sometimes its finished as soon as you push enter to start it, you dont need to run the full erase, just the normal quick erase will do, full secure erase if you are selling the drive on or are wiping data on the drive before you dispose of it, but you should only need to run the uber quick quick/normal erase.

Instructions

http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/DataSanitizationTutorial.pdf
 
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