Spending the extra 80 $ worth it

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hello i'm going to be building a pc soon. Its going to have
conroe E6600, g skill 2 gb ram ddr2, 250 gb hd, and 80 gb hd in RAID 0, nec cd drive, thermaletake armor case, don't know mobo yet, and Vx2025. I'm wondering if i should spend the extra 80 $ and get an ati x1900xt. The only video card that i've had is an Geforce 5600. It has served me well playing guildwars factions and bf2 at 1152 x 864 at 25 fps but its time to move on. Now i know some of the 7900 problems and i'm wondering if they're newer versions that don't have the problem that some of the 7900's did. The vx2025 is 20" big and has a resolution of 1600 x 1200. I'm wondering if should take a chance and try the 7900 gt or spend more for the x1900xt. i have some questions.
1. Is there a big difference between the 7900 gt and x1900xt?
2. Sorry but whats HDR?
3. What fps do you think i would get with the 7900 gt and x1900xt?
4. If i have the money should i get the x1900xt or put the 80 $ into something else.
5. If i buy an aftermarket cooler will it make the x1900xt not as loud and run cooler?
6. Are there any driver problems with the x1900xt?

Any negative or positive input is greatly appreaciated. I know you get these questions alot and i did use the search button but i needed some answer specifically to ny questions. Thank you for taking the time to read this and i hope you have a great day!
 
1. The biggest difference is maximum image quality. ATi wins hands down.

2. HDR is > 8 bit per channel color resolution, ATi supports 10 bit per channel. This can be misleading because most monitors can not display HDR correctly, since the best consumer grade LCD's have 6 bit pixels. Best as I can tell, what you see mostly is a better gradient between dark and bright and games that support HDR typically incorporate a bloom effect to exxagerate the effect because they know the monitor limitations.

3. With most games you will have playable frame rates between 50 to 100 FPS at the highest resolutions with all the goodies on. There are some games that would be exceptions to this.

4. I'd say get the XT, but I bought an XTX, so I may be biased.

5. Unless you want to go watercooling, the aftermarket coolers so far for the x1900xt series are only marginally better than stock at low fan speed.

6. The only driver problems with x1900 is the bloatedness of the CCC applet. This is why many do not install it and use ATiTray Tools instead.
 
Also, a 7900GT is no match for an X1900XT. A 7900GT is about the same speed as an X1800XT.
 
It also cost 170 dollars less thats why maybe it is not a match. Please compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. The 7900gt can be had for 230 shipped and the x1900xt is almost 400 shipped. If that is the case a 7950 will blow the x1900xt and the x1900xtx out the water
 
Also dont forget the X1900XT has 512mb of ram. That is also becoming a bigger factor these days with all the new games coming out.

7900GT only has 256mb.
 
the x1900XT is also >= $100 more. DX10 will come out in the near future. the 7900GT is the best deal IMO.
 
Well if you want to talk about DX10, might as well have an X1800 or x1900 for now. This is because you will be able to use it for physics in the future after you buy a real DX10 card.
 
BBA said:
Well if you want to talk about DX10, might as well have an X1800 or x1900 for now. This is because you will be able to use it for physics in the future after you buy a real DX10 card.
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That is an excellent point!
 
Peter740 said:
It also cost 170 dollars less thats why maybe it is not a match. Please compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. The 7900gt can be had for 230 shipped and the x1900xt is almost 400 shipped. If that is the case a 7950 will blow the x1900xt and the x1900xtx out the water
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The 7950 is two cards...
 
Firebat said:
it plugs into one PCI-E slot so i would consider it one card.
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trying running 2 monitors with 1 7950...in my book still consider 2 cards
 
troisanh said:
trying running 2 monitors with 1 7950...in my book still consider 2 cards
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Facts are facts: the 7950 is ONE video card consisting of TWO GPUs/boards sandwiched together.
 
troisanh said:
trying running 2 monitors with 1 7950...in my book still consider 2 cards
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Eh? First, you can--just by selecting the appropriate options in the control panel. Second, are two cards somehow less capable of running two monitors than one card? Either way, what exactly is your point?
 
Peter740 said:
It also cost 170 dollars less thats why maybe it is not a match. Please compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. The 7900gt can be had for 230 shipped and the x1900xt is almost 400 shipped. If that is the case a 7950 will blow the x1900xt and the x1900xtx out the water
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someone is a hardcore nvidia fan.....

he knows they are different, but asked if the money difference is worth the quality difference. kinda like if an orange is a dollar more then an apple, is the orange worth the dollar more or stick with an apple...... see, analogy's can be fun for me too!
 
Am I the only one who noticed that he's planning on running a 250gb and an 80gb HDD in RAID 0?

This sounds like a 'my first home-built PC' thing, in which case the only thing I suggest is to NOT make final decisions about what to buy until all the parts are actually available and you are ready to buy. Asking for advice now on what to buy for a system a few months down the road is not a good idea.

I suggest spending your time learning more about how computer components work, because when you set up your 250/80 RAID 0, you're not going to like it.
 
And another thing, if you don't know what motherboard you're going to buy (because no good options for Conroe are available yet), then talking about video cards isn't a good idea because depending on the motherboard you choose you could be limiting yourself to support for either Crossfire of SLI. Not a huge deal, but if you're going to buy a system, you might as well get parts that give you better future options.
 
Peter740 said:
It also cost 170 dollars less thats why maybe it is not a match. Please compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. The 7900gt can be had for 230 shipped and the x1900xt is almost 400 shipped. If that is the case a 7950 will blow the x1900xt and the x1900xtx out the water
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http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=326837

Out of stock at the moment but it's less than 400...

Show me a 7900GT for 230 shipped please. I searched all over and the cheapest I found was 260.

Also I wouldn't get an ATI and depend on it to do your physics. If ATI drops the ball and either botches the physics setup or fails to deliver a powerful DX10 card to pair it with, you'll be SOL.
 
z3r0- said:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=326837
Also I wouldn't get an ATI and depend on it to do your physics. If ATI drops the ball and either botches the physics setup or fails to deliver a powerful DX10 card to pair it with, you'll be SOL.
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And if nVidia's SLI isn't supported by Conroe chipsets for another year, will that be better? Final decisions before parts are released and reviewed = BAD.
 
Nicepants42 said:
Am I the only one who noticed that he's planning on running a 250gb and an 80gb HDD in RAID 0?

This sounds like a 'my first home-built PC' thing, in which case the only thing I suggest is to NOT make final decisions about what to buy until all the parts are actually available and you are ready to buy. Asking for advice now on what to buy for a system a few months down the road is not a good idea.

I suggest spending your time learning more about how computer components work, because when you set up your 250/80 RAID 0, you're not going to like it.
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I think(hope) he probably means 1x250gb hd and 2x80gb hd.
 
If you have the money, go for the X1900xt. The DX10 cards are coming out in a few months, but it's best to wait for second generation cards to work out the quirks. The first DX10 cards may require their own external power supply, which may be inconvenient. So, the x1900xt should suffice for a long time.
 
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