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Speedstream 5100b

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phaelinx

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Ok..here's my issue I have a Speedstream 5100b and a Linksys WRT54GXv1 (SRX) router.. I've actually been having this issue for awhile but only until a few minutes ago, realized it's my modem thats causing the issue.

I was just told that my modem is functioning as a NAT/router and so, it's not allowing my ports to be forwarded correctly..

I have 3 options for PPP, I have PPPoE on modem (which is what I had it set to for a long time), PPPoE on PC(or router) and then Bridged. I just tried using PPPoE on the router and it's still not allowing port forwarding to work correctly..

How can I disable the NAT/router part of this modem? Is it even possible? I just need the modem to function as a regular DSL modem and allow the router to handle everything.. up until recently I didnt need to forward ports, but now I need alot of ports for various devices on my network to have ports forwarded and nothings working.. it's quote frustrating..

If this isnt possible with this DSL modem, can you guys suggest a good quality DSL modem that's DSL2 supportive and will work as just a regular modem??
 
im not sure on that particular model i had used an 5200, to port forward on that model i had to upgrade the firmware that was provided to me by my isp, then the port forwarding was available in the menu.

but to fully unlock many of the options, like the NAT options and port forwarding, i had to play around with the profiles. but it may be different for the 5100.

here are some FAQs on the 5100.
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/eff/3_5100

and here is the forum for the efficient hardware, if you need anymore help.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/equip,eff
 
What does putting the modem in bridge mode do?

i guess I could try updating the firmware on my modem.. it's still got the original FW from when it originally shipped..
 
what problem are you exactly having with your modem and wireless router?
connection issues?

with the speedstream 5*** series modems they almost all function as a modem/router or in bridge mode, this is determined by your isp, so if you want to connect another router, in this case your linksys wireless router, you will have to use a crossover cable or you can bridge the router.

in your case, you want to use your linksys router to control everything, so you will have to bridge your 5100 to your linksys, in bridge mode the 5100 web interface is disabled.

unless you bought the modem as a retail package, it should have an isp specific firmware.

so my question to you is, how many computers are your connecting and how do you want to connect them?

another alternative is bypassing your modem and router all together, by using a newer model like the speedstream 6520, which is a dsl modem/wireless router, it has 4 10/100mbps ethernet ports and usb, plus the wireless g connection.

i am currently using the 6520, which i got free from my isp. it is a model that does support DSL2. i have no probs with it, although if you look around if may find others who do have some problems with it, but i have used it for 1.5 years now and its running great, i do use the wireless all the time, no probs either.

also who is your isp? because there are not many other dsl modems that are 100% compatible with my isp, it uses PPPoA instead of the more common PPPoE. so since you are using the speedstream 5100, another model above that like the 6520 will be sure to be compatible, but this is all determined by your isp.
 
I have the same exact modem as you. What would be best is to just put your modem into bridged mode and use your router to determine your connection. Put in your DSL account info into your router, select PPoE on your router and the DSL info should be an address like masteraccount@whatever.com and the password. and if you can, whats be best is to find out the DNS server IPs and put those in. Also find out the domain name of your DSL provider and put that in the router's domain field.

Doing this will make your modem a dumb terminal that just forwards all your packets straight through to your router, it acts as a bridge, and your router will pick up your IP from your provider. Its a bit faster because your connection from the internet just passes through the modem straight to your router.
 
ghostfire99 said:
what problem are you exactly having with your modem and wireless router?
connection issues?

with the speedstream 5*** series modems they almost all function as a modem/router or in bridge mode, this is determined by your isp, so if you want to connect another router, in this case your linksys wireless router, you will have to use a crossover cable or you can bridge the router.

in your case, you want to use your linksys router to control everything, so you will have to bridge your 5100 to your linksys, in bridge mode the 5100 web interface is disabled.

unless you bought the modem as a retail package, it should have an isp specific firmware.

so my question to you is, how many computers are your connecting and how do you want to connect them?

another alternative is bypassing your modem and router all together, by using a newer model like the speedstream 6520, which is a dsl modem/wireless router, it has 4 10/100mbps ethernet ports and usb, plus the wireless g connection.

i am currently using the 6520, which i got free from my isp. it is a model that does support DSL2. i have no probs with it, although if you look around if may find others who do have some problems with it, but i have used it for 1.5 years now and its running great, i do use the wireless all the time, no probs either.

also who is your isp? because there are not many other dsl modems that are 100% compatible with my isp, it uses PPPoA instead of the more common PPPoE. so since you are using the speedstream 5100, another model above that like the 6520 will be sure to be compatible, but this is all determined by your isp.
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Well, I dont have any connection issues.. What I am having, is I host a webserver on IP *.*.1.102:1024, and I have an IP camera on *.*.1.115:7070 and various other ports that need forwarded, like PSP games etc..

what I am having issues with is port 1024, port 7070 and the UDP ports required by certain PSP games arent being forwarded because my modem is blocking them.. even though my router has them forwarded..

I can access all my services internally, but not externally.. the only one(s) that seems to work externally is my camera (ip *.*.1.115) because I have it set as the DMZ host, the remote management of my router which is on port 8080, and my nas box which has an ftp on port 21

My ISP is SBC Yahoo.. they provided me with the DSL package.. I do believe it has a specific FW..


I have 3 laptops, 4 desktops, 1 htpc, 2 psp's, and 2 pda's, and 1 D-link media center (all wireless) and all can access everything internally.. my htpc hosts the webserver.. and a TS-u200 nas box that hosts my ftp server..
 
Kaiga said:
I have the same exact modem as you. What would be best is to just put your modem into bridged mode and use your router to determine your connection. Put in your DSL account info into your router, select PPoE on your router and the DSL info should be an address like masteraccount@whatever.com and the password. and if you can, whats be best is to find out the DNS server IPs and put those in. Also find out the domain name of your DSL provider and put that in the router's domain field.

Doing this will make your modem a dumb terminal that just forwards all your packets straight through to your router, it acts as a bridge, and your router will pick up your IP from your provider. Its a bit faster because your connection from the internet just passes through the modem straight to your router.
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This is exactly what I want.. I want the router to tell the modem to connect to the provider (using PPPoE on the router using my login/pass), and have the modem just act as just a "dumb terminal" that basically just passes all info through it then uses the router to determine what goes where.. so you're saying I need to bridge the DSL modem to the router and that will allow it to do what I want? I'll check into this tonight..

Last night I switched from PPPoE-On-Modem to PPPoE-On-Router and that disabled the web interface on the modem which is ip 192.168.0.1... So, to bridge it, I'll need to switch BACK to PPPoE-On-Modem to re-enable the web interface while still being connected to the router correct?

because if I just plug the DSL modem into my laptop and attempt to bridge it, it wont know what to bridge to because its not connected to the router..
 
There are two steps..

*Flip PPP to your PC/Router...you see it explain that part in the web admin. This alone only moves the PPPoE authentication...but it still lets it do NAT. So your Linksys is still double NAT'd..which you do not want.
*Under Connection Configuration...you'll see a section which says "Use Private IP address"..you want to turn that OFF..so it disables the NAT...effectively doing the same thing as making it a bridge..which is basically just a pure DSL modem like the old Speedstream 5260 series was.

You will not get what you want until you do that second part.
 
Well the thing is.. I went and set it to "No, use Private IP address" and that had no affect.. then I set it to do PPP on my router and still not forwarding correctly.. so I dunno what to do... I havent tried the bridge mode yet..

when I set it to use PPP on the router the web gui got disabled... so now I have the plug the modem directly into my laptop, reenable it then plug the modem back into my router and I wanna try setting it as bridge mode..
 
phaelinx said:
phaelinx said:
Well the thing is.. I went and set it to "No, use Private IP address" .
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That's the one you don't want...you don't want a private IP address. The Private IP address flips on the NAT, so any device behind it gets a 192.168. address.

Make sure that's off, and PPP location is on PC. You only need those 2x things...I do a couple of these every month on setups. Setup your router with the PPPoE...and check the status section of the router...the WAN interface..it should pickup a PUBLIC IP address...if you're using SBC..probably something starting with a 6x. or 7x.
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Yes, tell your modem to bridge, it should be the third selection in the choices you have.
note that when you bridge your modem you cannot access the modem's using your browser anymore by typing in 192.168.1.1, you will have to do a hard reset in order to access it.

And you want your router to obtain it's IP address via PPPoE not PPP. and it should be a public IP. and keep your connection alive, also you may not need to, but we both happen to also have the same ISP but for DNS, phone SBC and see what DNS servers they are using and you may want to type them in, I'm not sure about you in your area, you may not need to, start by obtaining DNS IP automatically.

NOTE: When you change all these settings at first, you may need to power cycle your router, if power cycling your router didn't help then release* and renew* your computer's IPs. I noticed when I set this up on my network that the DHCP address IP format changed.

After you change your settings on your modem and router make sure you check the router's connection status, and (not sure if your router displays this or not) but the ISP name it should display is ATT or Ameritech. Also, if your DNS servers happen to not show up, try going to a website VIA it's IP and if it doesn't work something else is wrong, if you successfully go to it, then phone SBC and ask tech support for the DNS server IPs. Also, you need to tell your router to accept incoming WAN requests as well. It might read something like "Block WAN request" with options disable and enable.
 
my isp dns servers are 206.13.29.12 and 206.13.30.12...

So..what I will try first is what the other guy mentioned.. because before I started messing with the settings, it was set as "Yes, use public IP address" but PPPoE was on the modem.. so I switched it to "No, use private IP address" and went with PPPoE on the router.. basically I flipped both of them.. I'll try setting it back to Yes, public IP, and then PPPoE on the router.. if that doesnt work, then I'll select to bridge it..

do I need to know the domain my ISP uses and put that in my router? or does that not matteR?
 
I've been looking for HOURS for the damned SBC Yahoo firmware update to the Speedstream 5100b.. wtf?
 
Ok.. I have it set to use a public IP.. and PPPoE on my router..and it's still not working.. so I guess ima try in bridged mode.. man this router is a pain in the ass to hard reset... I've tried like 10 times and only did it once..
 
Welp.. bridged mode.. PPPoE on router, and still no dice..

I did manage to successfully update the modem FW but saw no difference in options.. I guess this DSL modem just doesnt want to let go of doing NAT.. I'll have to look into buying a new DSL modem...one that's designed for 3rd party routers in mind..
 
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