sp1, new kernel for vista. ??

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Q: Will Microsoft release any Windows updates between now and Vienna?
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A: Yes. Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1, codenamed "Fiji") will ship simultaneously with Windows Server "Longhorn" and will include a new kernel version that makes that release up to date with the kernel version in Longhorn. Fiji will almost certainly include a revision to the Media Center software in Windows Vista as well. For these reasons, we might consider Fiji a major release for a service pack. Certainly, no previous service pack has ever included a major kernel update.
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isn't the kernel, the core of the os? what are they talking about here, a new build of vista...?
 
What is the source on that? :)

A new kernel would be a new build, I believe. Unless the build is the full OS release with all the components... Not sure, like they said: a service pack has included a major kernel update.
 
Paul Thurrott is a good guy. He is thorough in his work.

While I really like Vista, I feel that Vienna is going to be labeled as Vista SP2 by critics.
 
They were considering releasing XP SP2 as a seprate OS, so that wouldn't really bother me.
 
Ur_Mom said:
Paul Thurrott is a good guy. He is thorough in his work.
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Just the fact it is written by the guy makes me not want to trust it. He has been wrong. You can't trust anyone other than Microsoft themselves on this sort of stuff.

LstOfTheBrunnenG said:
They were considering releasing XP SP2 as a seprate OS, so that wouldn't really bother me.
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XP SP2 was really just a huge patch to buy more time for Vista, I think. "Tide users over" until Vista came along.

Vista has been HEAVILY tested. The most by any to date. It is one of the most stable OS that I know of- with it's capabilities. I don't see a SP1 coming out this soon.
I don't know what SP1 would really include- if Paul is right- it doesn't sound like much to the end user. Vista is packed with stuff. All I can see MS issuing in SP1 is maybe a few new features that were overlooked in Beta testing- that really hadn't gotten tested as well.

I think SP1 will be small. In all honesty, I think MS could just start issuing smaller updates through Windows Update- and just not even have a SP1.

XP had tons of room for improvement. They did that with SP2.
Vista already has so much stuff- I just don't know what they could improve- sort of adding/changing features.
 
zacdl said:
Vista already has so much stuff- I just don't know what they could improve- sort of adding/changing features.
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It's probably still too early to even know what they can improve on. It's definitely been the most "ready" Windows version to date upon its release.
 
djnes said:
It's probably still too early to even know what they can improve on. It's definitely been the most "ready" Windows version to date upon its release.
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True. You can always make stuff better... but I just feel the way it currently is- is about as good as it is going to get, unless they ADD stuff to it.

When they ADD stuff like that- it generally goes into a new OS (Vienna?).
I think if they get too carried away adding to whats already there- they won't have anything new and exciting (like Vista) for future OS.
 
zacdl said:
I think SP1 will be small. In all honesty, I think MS could just start issuing smaller updates through Windows Update- and just not even have a SP1.
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I think that Windows Update will be the source of most of the updates, as well. Vista has a few complaints that would warrant some deeper updates done by a service pack (UAC changes, for example.). I like UAC, but a lot of people want it only for certain applications (IE7).

I really like Vista, and the malicious exploits are usually patched ASAP, and the little bug fixes can be distributed via WU, as well. It's the bigger things that would need the service pack.
 
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