Sorry to do a support request for my first post...

jmcc

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But I need a little advice. I got the basics of my new PC together last week and haven't been able to do anything with it due to some hardware thing going on. It's configured as follows:

Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 mobo
e6600
2 gigs of gskill 1.8v 4200 ram
Gigabyte 7600gs vid card
Generic [NEC] DVD-RW drive
Seagate 320g SATA drive
Thermaltake 430W PS

The problem is it simply won't take an OS load (WinXP Home in this example, though it fails with an Ubuntu LiveCD too.) It starts to copy XP's files and I have to hit escape a few times because there's apparently some files not able to be found on the disc, though they don't seem very important. Then it does one of two things at various percentages of file copy (I think 64% is the record): it either locks up (and I've let it sit for hours, thinking it was just taking a while) or it gives a stop error. I checked to see if it was overheating, but it's running cool as a cucumber, so I went on from there, threw an Ubuntu disc in and ran Memtest86+. It went through to test 5, I believe, where it registered somewhere between four and five hundred thousand errors before crashing. So, my question is, is this likely a memory thing or a motherboard thing? I can go out pretty easily and get a 512 meg stick of ram to check if it's memory, since I'm planning to put a new PC together for a family member anyway, but I'd hate to do it then have the same problems come up, since ram will probably go down in cost by the time I actually assemble that new PC.

Any suggestions or insight into the matter would be greatly appreciated.
 
could be the RAM. Run memtest. Could be a bad optical drive or IDE cable as well, so check that.

I had the same issue on an old Gateway, it turned out that the IDE controller on the board was bad.
 
The memory is toast If it fails Memtest and wont load a live CD Ram has to be bad. Go get the 512 stick and get the system up and going and then RMA the RAM.
 
DeChache said:
The memory is toast If it fails Memtest and wont load a live CD Ram has to be bad. Go get the 512 stick and get the system up and going and then RMA the RAM.
See, I thought the same thing about the CD, but you never know.
 
Lich said:
could be the RAM. Run memtest. Could be a bad optical drive or IDE cable as well, so check that.

I had the same issue on an old Gateway, it turned out that the IDE controller on the board was bad.
I'll give this a try, though it's all new cables and the DVD drive worked fine in the PC I took it out of...
DeChache said:
The memory is toast If it fails Memtest and wont load a live CD Ram has to be bad. Go get the 512 stick and get the system up and going and then RMA the RAM.
This is my second step and really, I hope it's as simple as this. I just don't know what the chances are of two sticks of memory coming bad from Newegg. I've tried them seperately, however, and the problem persists regardless.
dBTelos said:
TT PSUs are crap.

Try one of these:

http://tinyurl.com/kz3rf
Silverstone Strider 400W

http://tinyurl.com/prdnp
Enermax Liberty 400W w/ SLi

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=PS...1a45113bc7cbf1aa32b3d6c77f32f5bb0e7279d0b0ce1
Enhance ENP 400W w/ PCI-E

http://tinyurl.com/fyax4
Seasonic S12 430W w/ PCI-E
I'd assume it's not the best power supply, given that AR I paid 20-some dollars for it (and frankly, it's a placeholder until DX10 cards come out and I have to upgrade it anyway), but could it be causing the problems I detailed above? With the stuff I have in it, it shouldn't be close to fully loaded, I wouldn't think.
 
Set up your memory timings and voltages properly in the bios. I'd be willing to bet thats 90% of the problem. ;)
 
w1retap said:
Set up your memory timings and voltages properly in the bios. I'd be willing to bet thats 90% of the problem. ;)
Good advice, w1retap. Also you could try taking out one of the memory sticks and running memtest on each stick individually. If there is just a problem with one stick you might be able to further pinpoint the problem. As mentioned above, make sure you have your timings and voltages set in the BIOS as directed by gskill.
 
Well, update. The ram got here and it didn't change anything. So, I've tried different ram, different optical drives, and I don't think it's the HDD, given that an Ubuntu LiveCD hangs, too. So, at this point, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I think the motherboard is probably the culprit.
 
jmcc said:
Well, update. The ram got here and it didn't change anything. So, I've tried different ram, different optical drives, and I don't think it's the HDD, given that an Ubuntu LiveCD hangs, too. So, at this point, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I think the motherboard is probably the culprit.

Have you tried to install Windows again. Ubuntu live hangs on my comp to but everything works fine.
 
just to ask a stupid question. Have you tried different floppies for your sata controller? i had issues with a bunk disk and when it tried to load the drivers it hosed just like you described.
 
DeChache said:
Have you tried to install Windows again. Ubuntu live hangs on my comp to but everything works fine.
Actually, yes, thank you; this worked. It finally got to the GUI installation phase. Of course, due to the curse on me for a mishap at a voodoo mixer I went to, my troubles still aren't over. One of the other disc drives I tried in ruling out the optical drive as the problem had its way with my install disc (leading to fatal errors due to files not being found on the disc from all the scratching), so I've got some local computer shop finagling to try or some secret, illegal torrentation in my future.
 
jmcc said:
Actually, yes, thank you; this worked. It finally got to the GUI installation phase. Of course, due to the curse on me for a mishap at a voodoo mixer I went to, my troubles still aren't over. One of the other disc drives I tried in ruling out the optical drive as the problem had its way with my install disc (leading to fatal errors due to files not being found on the disc from all the scratching), so I've got some local computer shop finagling to try or some secret, illegal torrentation in my future.

Sounds Like My Luck. I think you can actually use a friends XP disk with your key. Im pretty sure all disks are the same you just need differnt keys to register.

Also what did you do to the voodoo person they tend to be testy. ;)
 
I'd assume it's not the best power supply, given that AR I paid 20-some dollars for it (and frankly, it's a placeholder until DX10 cards come out and I have to upgrade it anyway), but could it be causing the problems I detailed above? With the stuff I have in it, it shouldn't be close to fully loaded, I wouldn't think.

Do yourself a favor, grab one of these:

http://tinyurl.com/fzwku
Silverstone Zeus 520W w/ SLi

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=373100&prodlist=froogle
Corsair HX520W w/ SLi

and you will get A) constant reliability and stability. B) upgradability through SLi for DX10 C) peace of mind
 
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