Sony's E3 Keynote

chameleoneel said:
This is only the case in America. Apple got damn lucky, is all. The U.S. mobile market has always lagged behind everyone else in features. Appled slicked up a phone that appeared to be a revolution in features. For the U.S. it is a very nice phone with some of the best features. Go to a REAL mobile market (Korea, Japan) and you can barely literally GIVE Iphones away. People don't want them because they are expensive and comparatively, have very few features.
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I want to go to there...
 
chameleoneel said:
Do you know how much most PMP devices cost? Especially ones with Ipod touch equivalency? Apple or not, PMP devices are an expensive/premium market segment. A 16GB or more PMP device with a 3 inch or larger screen is going to cost you about $250 minimum. Make that an OLED screen and its even more. Make that an OLED touch screen and its EVEN more. The PSP Go is very competitively priced, maybe even a bargain, considering its feature set and the PMP market. Problem is, how is SONY going to market this thing? because typically the Playstation brand is for the gaming market and Walkman is currently in the PMP market, Releasing a $300 Ipod touch alike this month.
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about 80 bucks.... 4 inch screen phillips go gear 4 gig storage
jump up to 160 and you get a touch screen 30 gig media player that has wifi a full html browser dvr support plugin decoders for any media format you want and scales the storage space up to 160 gig at 269 agian it has a 4 inch touch screen it is called the archos 605 pmp.

Not to mention ipods, zunes or any of the other similar devices. The truth of the matter is the market of pmp devices is saturated with alot of competitors. Using a psp is nice but using a broken psp not so much. To draw people to a psp go! is psn support. It only has the storage and battery life of low to midrange mp3 players and has limited video support .mp4 and limited avi and limited music support it wont play flac or a multitude of others that some PMP will.

Personally if i was in the market for a psp right now and i saw the two products on the shelf i would grab the psp 3000 and a 8 gig memory card for 169 + 29 over the psp go and i would say that even if i didnt have 17 umd sitting here with my 2 psp. IF i needed a pmp i would grab a netbook 160 gig hard drive windows xp or linux.

My end statement is sony can take the broken psp go! and bury it next to nintendo's ET as a testament to how big a failure I hope it is.

but time will tell and so will more details on the device...
 
chameleoneel said:
This is only the case in America. Apple got damn lucky, is all. The U.S. mobile market has always lagged behind everyone else in features. Appled slicked up a phone that appeared to be a revolution in features. For the U.S. it is a very nice phone with some of the best features. Go to a REAL mobile market (Korea, Japan) and you can barely literally GIVE Iphones away. People don't want them because they are expensive and comparatively, have very few features.
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Ain't that the truth.

It makes me chuckle at how the Iphone is *apparantly* the be all and end all yet it only recently has had the option to send MMS (if that has even been added yet?) and can't even video call?! Don't get me started on the simple task of cutting and pasting (for a smart phone) that is still not possible but is being hyped as the second coming. Then stir in the crippled bluetooth capeability and it's a joke.

Half the size, bring the feature spec upto even the most basic of mobiles and cut the price in half and then the Iphone will be the nuts. Until then....meh.
 
Tigerblade said:
Ain't that the truth.

It makes me chuckle at how the Iphone is *apparantly* the be all and end all yet it only recently has had the option to send MMS (if that has even been added yet?) and can't even video call?! Don't get me started on the simple task of cutting and pasting (for a smart phone) that is still not possible but is being hyped as the second coming. Then stir in the crippled bluetooth capeability and it's a joke.

Half the size, bring the feature spec upto even the most basic of mobiles and cut the price in half and then the Iphone will be the nuts. Until then....meh.
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spot on. plus its a nightmare to develope apps for it. you cant even access the contacts and any media files on it. its a proper shit phone not only for consumers but for developers too.

Google android will piss all over iphone
 
I guess my question to people who see the psp as a viable pmp device is, do you really think enough has changed? Because the previous iterations of the device haven't exactly dominated the market. You can argue about its merits on paper all you want but if people weren't buying it before, I doubt the changes made will make people buy it now. Its still viewed as a gaming device and in that realm its getting crushed.

Sony doesn't just need a device thats comparable to other companies' offerings on paper, they need one thats better and cheaper because they're already playing so far from behind in both markets (pmp and gaming).
 
jonneymendoza said:
Google android will piss all over iphone
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This statement is one of the new "year of the linux desktop" lines, something that people keep saying but has yet to happen. Android looked great at first but at the end of the day it hasn't lived up to the hype yet and the longer it takes to gain traction the harder it gets. If anything apple's best competition is palm. Like it or not google is at the mercy of hardware developers and so far I don't think they've come through.
 
Yeah, but it can send pic msg's. 5 year old phones can do that, but not the iphone.
 
fallguy said:
Yeah, but it can send pic msg's. 5 year old phones can do that, but not the iphone.
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That argument doesn't really hold water. There are lots of things the iPhone can do that 5 year old phones can't. There are also lots of things that current phones can do that others can't. You need to judge the phone by the entire sum if its parts. It seems that many people agree that the sum of what's there outweighs what's missing.
 
Maximus825 said:
That argument doesn't really hold water. There are lots of things the iPhone can do that 5 year old phones can't. There are also lots of things that current phones can do that others can't. You need to judge the phone by the entire sum if its parts. It seems that many people agree that the sum of what's there outweighs what's missing.
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Sure it does. Taking a pic with a cell phone, and sending it, is one of the most common things done. Its a very basic function. The fact that it cant do this simple task is silly.
 
fallguy said:
Sure it does. Taking a pic with a cell phone, and sending it, is one of the most common things done. Its a very basic function. The fact that it cant do this simple task is silly.
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Or send and recieve files via bluetooth.....

Or copy and paste as a smart phone.....

Or video call......

And don't get me started on the crappy camera without any kind of led or flash.....

:D
 
Technoob said:
The psp sells ok, but like crap compared to the DS. Its software sales are horrendous though.
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well the same can be said about the wiis competitors but taking 30% handheld gaming marketshare is not crap.
 
Rash said:
well the same can be said about the wiis competitors
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That's not true at all though. Software sales for the PS3 and 360 are considerably above what the Wii software sales are when the size of the installed base is taken into consideration.

PSP software sales are quite the opposite.
 
Psychotext said:
That's not true at all though. Software sales for the PS3 and 360 are considerably above what the Wii software sales are when the size of the installed base is taken into consideration.

PSP software sales are quite the opposite.
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Yes indeed i agree, i was referring to hardware sales though
 
Rash said:
bluetooth tethering (something iphone users have been craving, meening you dont have to rely on wifi hotspots or home network if you have a mobile phone with an unlimited internet plan, ie my unlimited mobile broadband 3.6meg internet costs £5/month, so you can play multiplayer anywhere or get content anywhere or even watch playtv recordings and remote play anywhere!!), send and receive files via bluetooth also not sure if its confirmed but bluetooth stereo support (something else iphone users have craved) would be great! We should all hate wires in this time!! Not a waste if you ask me!
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Ah that makes sense. Even though I can tether my iphone (not thru Apple of course) I forget about such options because of the insane data pricing plans here. I just use mine for PAYG voice/text and constantly looking for free wifi. I still feel it should of added a cell into it because even without a touchscreen it would of been the Sony do-it-all gadget. Even though I've always wished the damn PSP was pocket sized I don't see any reason to get it now that I have this iphone. Maybe if I didn't have an old PSP phat kicking around...
 
Rash said:
well the same can be said about the wiis competitors but taking 30% handheld gaming marketshare is not crap.
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When it's one of only two competitors, and its competition is technically inferior in every way?
 
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yer a bit like the xbox vs ps2 scenario, foot in the door can be deadly
 
I don't have a link right now because I can't get to gaming sites at work, but the Playstation Eye (Eyetoy 2 for PS3) has proven to have legs. Checkout Sony's Eyepet. Pretty impressive for an "old" product.
 
Rash said:
yer a bit like the xbox vs ps2 scenario, foot in the door can be deadly
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Umm, I see zero correlation between a nintendo vs sony handheld battle and a 3 way last gen console battle, but ok.
 
Technoob said:
Umm, I see zero correlation between a nintendo vs sony handheld battle and a 3 way last gen console battle, but ok.
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Meaning sonys first handheld gaming device against a renowned company that has had handheld consoles for over 20 years, selling over 50 million psps is a hell of an acheivement. like others have said, handheld devices have failed (better hardware than gameboy etc) but sony has succeeded. Pretty good for a product everyone pronounced dead at launch. selling 50million + of a product and still going strong is not a fail! 4 years on the psp is still here, picking up pace in areas. also now come to think of it we seem to forget that sony and nintendo are also competing with the ipod touch, so 3 way battle mate. ipod touch and iphone sales are 37 million +. Nintendo is being orced to add a butt load of pmp stuff which it originally laughed at.

If nintendo were all "all about the games" they wouldnt have felt the need to bring out a dsi with mp3 playback and a web browser, and future streaming video, things which the ds and ds lite probably cant do.
 
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Technoob said:
Well thought out post. Your newsletter. I would like to subscribe to it.
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I love it. Tech, I don't think you'd like my newsletter if I had one though... :(

and SCEA still FAILS

Uncharted is just one of the same games released year after year with just a different name and skin wrapped around it. God of War is the same. Been there done that.

Wake me up when Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2 come out.
 
Loggahead said:
I love it. Tech, I don't think you'd like my newsletter if I had one though... :(

and SCEA still FAILS

Uncharted is just one of the same games released year after year with just a different name and skin wrapped around it. God of War is the same. Been there done that.

Wake me up when Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2 come out.
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Diablo 3 . . . been there 2 times done it . . . .

Guild Wars 2 <--- i think the 2 gives away my response.
 
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