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Sony OLED Screen
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Sounds small? No, it IS small. Very small.
The fact that the best they can do is an 11" screen for over $1700 (and they say they're losing money at that price) doesn't bode well for this technology. Of course on the other hand... plasma technology has come a long way since 98 when some people were saying that it was far too expensive and complicated to be a viable technology for the future.
Hopefully it's just a matter of getting the first product out there to pave the way so to speak. I think it's like this with any product. There's not a big market for OLED at current, not many manufacturers of parts or much R&D geared towards it. Sony is putting out a product, trying to price it as much as they can toward the mainstream market, and hope it catches on. Like anything, if it does catch on, hopefully it'll mean better, cheaper, and more selection in OLEDs.
I'm never one to jump on the bandwagon early on though...$1500+ for 11" is pretty steep. It'd be cool to see one of these things though and determine whether they're really LCD's with all of the glory of CRT's (besides response time).
I'm never one to jump on the bandwagon early on though...$1500+ for 11" is pretty steep. It'd be cool to see one of these things though and determine whether they're really LCD's with all of the glory of CRT's (besides response time).
Thank you Mr. Sony employee....how many shares did they give you when you got hired?
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It's too bad the big manufacturers are so against OLED because their factories are geared at capacity production for LCDs thusly depriving us of a much better technology. I thought we were supposed ot have OLEDs already by now since they were announced what? Like 6-7 years ago?
A million to one contrast ratio...it looks like this 11 inch screen is already going to be spectacular...
Guess how the resolution will look depends on the dot pitch and such...
I'm also concerned about reliability and longevity...but then again I don't fully understand the technology behind OLED. If you remember when plasma technology was first introduced...it took about 6 years for the technology to mature with much improved longevity, anti burn-in features and prices that the average consumer could afford. I don't know how long Sony has been developing OLED, but the fact that they chose to unveil an 11" screen at a time when many people are using 24" or larger pc monitors...probably means that we are years away from OLED being a viable alternative to lcd desktops....much less a size suitable for tv's.
Thank you Mr. Sony employee....how many shares did they give you when you got hired?
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From what I know, it only has 6bit panel and standard AM technology. It also uses white OLEDs with RGB color filter,which doesn't contribute to the main goal of OLED.
So wait for the large version. Although it also has white OLEDs and AM driver, the static quality would be much better.
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I would argue that contrast ratio isn't even a factor at all with these new technologies (OLED, SED, IMLED, FED, etc). Remember that contrast ratio is the ratio of brightness between the brightest white to the darkest black a panel can display. As long as a 'black' pixel emits no light, the 'contrast ratio' is no longer defined, unless you believe in dividing by zero.
Back when Bit-Tech had their article on Brightside's IMLED backlights, brightside said (I'm paraphrasing here) "We could say that the contrast ratio is infinite, but nobody would believe it, so we're just going to say 200 000:1"
So as far as I'm concerned, the 1 000 000:1 ratio Sony is claiming only means that its contrast will beat the crap out of any standard backlit panel, and shouldn't be used to compare to other panels of a similar technology.
That said, it will be interesting to see what panels perform better with local contrast - SEDs still use glowing phosphors so I imagine bright pixels will 'halo' some light into adjacent dark pixels, much like a CRT. IMLED backlights are lower resolution than the LCD panel so there would be some bleeding there. I don't think OLED would suffer from that.
The organic compounds used to form the diodes in OLEDs are very sensitive to environmental conditions when "on". AFAIK packaging is the biggest challenge, as it is very hard to keep all oxygen out. On the other hand, I would expect the solutions to this particular problem to scale very well, so once the first generations of the product have run their course, the economy of scale should make cost reductions quite significant.
Well, they are all important. The other specs sounded good as well, at least with regard to the prototypes Sony displayed earlier. Except for reliability -- the displays clearly don't last as long...
(10 bit, >100 percent NTSC, 1000 faster than LCD, 30,000 hours, were some numbers that have been reported, if I recall...I don't remember if those specifically apply to the December release though...)
One publication said 12 years before OLED is a "strong competitor" in the TV space. But I hope it's shorter than that. If this release really happens, that will be pretty exciting. Especially compared to SED's sad story...
And even at a substantial premium, hopefully something usable as a computer monitor will much sooner be released. (People were certainly willing to pay a premium for Sony's GDM class CRTs in the past...)
Yes but only if your name is Neilo. So most of us are safe.
I don't notice ghosting on fast 2-8ms TN panels so I am not worried about it on on an OLED panel with a response time of .01 ms.
They can easily add a strobe mode for freaks who miss refresh scanning of CRT. Maybe they can make it adjustable so you can turn it down to 60Hz to get some nice flicker. This is a trivial exercise when you have this kind of response time.