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Songbird users?

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ADDICT76

Limp Gawd
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Does anyone here use Songbird?

http://getsongbird.com/

Seems like a promising open source media manager. Some pretty handy addons and some good looking themes.

I'm having a issue though. I attempted to scan all my tracks (about 75,000) into the library and it froze. So I closed the process and was going to attempt to load the library folder by folder. However now the program will not start. Any ideas?
 
Sure did. Cleaned my temp files etc. Not sure whats going on. It looks promising so I'd like to try it.
 
ADDICT76 said:
Sure did. Cleaned my temp files etc. Not sure whats going on. It looks promising so I'd like to try it.
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Err.. That's very weird. Try looking for a portable version of Songbird, it might help if you just want to try it. Songbird was updated recently though, so try to find a portable version of its latest update.
 
75,000 tracks? Damn and I thought I had problems mangeing my 1500 tracks. Sorry i cant help, just had to make a coment obout the number of tracks you have :)
 
Idea:

75k is WAY beyond the usual assumed load, and the software in question isn't exactly well-aged. Try adding them in smaller subsets.
 
I got it to work. I uninstalled it and reinstalled it twice. Weird.

I ended up adding them by folder. I have my collection broke up like M:\T\Third Eye Blind. Makes it much easier finding tracks/artists.

Yeah I've been downloading for years and I have several Dj friends who let me mooch off of them. 75,000 isn't really that big. Most Dj's have over 100,000+. I've even seen some guys with over 200,000. At that level no software package can really handle it.
 
ADDICT76 said:
I got it to work. I uninstalled it and reinstalled it twice. Weird.

I ended up adding them by folder. I have my collection broke up like M:\T\Third Eye Blind. Makes it much easier finding tracks/artists.

Yeah I've been downloading for years and I have several Dj friends who let me mooch off of them. 75,000 isn't really that big. Most Dj's have over 100,000+. I've even seen some guys with over 200,000. At that level no software package can really handle it.
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Well 200k records should not be an issue for most db backends such as Mysql. However vanilla sqlite would have issues which many apps tend to use and it really is not appropriate. SQLite is a great tool but is not what should be used for large music collections. Also with large collections the initial data load will take sometime.
 
A quick google search turned up this: http://www.helium-music-manager.com/ not free though :(

Anyways, I find it quite surprising that SQLite can't handle a DB with only 75k entries. That's almost nothing for a DB... A friend of mine regularly works on databases with millions of entries.
 
l0calh05t said:
A quick google search turned up this: http://www.helium-music-manager.com/ not free though :(

Anyways, I find it quite surprising that SQLite can't handle a DB with only 75k entries. That's almost nothing for a DB... A friend of mine regularly works on databases with millions of entries.
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It is designed to be lightweight for small databases and is a good replacement from parsing a flat file but still not a replacement for a proper database. SQLite can consume large amounts of memory for larger databases compared to other databases.
 
m1abram said:
It is designed to be lightweight for small databases and is a good replacement from parsing a flat file but still not a replacement for a proper database. SQLite can consume large amounts of memory for larger databases compared to other databases.
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I know what SQLite is, but 75k entries (and they probably aren't particularly large either) is almost nothing.
 
I meant the size of the database entries (number of columns, length of strings etc.) not of the media files themselves which are (hopefully) not stored directly in the DB.
 
no no..sorry for the confusion. I can't imagine the entries themselves would be large at all?
 
I think the issue is Songbird takes FOREVER on large initial collection scans, to the point it seems frozen, but it's really just chugging along.

If you have a big collection, just set it off and walk away for a few hours...

It's promising, but definitely has some rough edges..
 
tried 0.61 on two computers and found it flakey, replaced with winamp.
 
Justin42 said:
I think the issue is Songbird takes FOREVER on large initial collection scans, to the point it seems frozen, but it's really just chugging along.

If you have a big collection, just set it off and walk away for a few hours...

It's promising, but definitely has some rough edges..
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This would be pretty much true for ANY media catalog during the initial scan of a very large music collection. Not having used Songbird so not sure if they give any kind of feedback on the scan progress. I would hope the scan was done as a separate thread so that the rest of the app can move along and provide feedback. However Songbird still in its early stages they may not have done this.
 
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