Not sure why you think I said all AMD cards look like crap, I stated all Asus Turbo cards (that specific line of Asus cards) look like crap..... Now the rest of it, nope Cagey. The price hike or package sku prices, has nothing to do with demand. I can get a Vega 56 or 64 easily now, demand isn't there. Do you remember how long it took the 1070 to show up on steam? 1 month. Still no Vega. And demand for the 1070's was much much higher than it is for Vega. And in that month 2 weeks were cut off from launch to actual retail availability. Ask anyone at your local mom and pop store, or Best buy, ask them if their is so much demand they can't keep them on selves. Unlike the 1070's, and 1080's which miners are buying by the handful, Vega is fairly easy to get. I can't special order over 5 cards for those two nV cards right now from my Best Buy, cause they just don't have allocation in their warehouses country wide. Vega on the other hand same thing. And its not a miners card. Its purely supply constrained. You don't see miners buying Vega's by the pallet. Those small time miners that have a few rigs and don't understand perf/$ are the only people that are buying up Vega for mining. The rest, know better. Shit the 1080's get 12 bucks a card on the some alt coins (outside of Eth). Vega can't even dream of that. PS also the demand excuses was also used for Intel's latest CPU, demand for it made them sell out, BS, we know Intel is supply constrained.