viscountalpha
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Pretty much. It's vaporware until it actually is commercially available. Prototypes don't count.
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Solid-State Batteries That Could Last A Lifetime?
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Pretty much. It's vaporware until it actually is commercially available. Prototypes don't count.
UrielDagda
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Well if Republicans hadn't pretty much ignored other energy technologies for the last 35 years the transition would be going a hell of a lot smoother.
But I guess we can just fall behind the rest of the industrialized world just to appease the coal industry until every seam of coal is gone instead.
As usual the US has to be dragged kicking and screaming, suffering to keep up with just the previous decade.
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Tesla doesn't have Oil company money. So it will be Oil if anyone that buys it and sits on it.
Yup. This is just a research paper showing proof of concept in a lab environment.
Its not a method to mass manufacture this stuff, which may or may not be practical. The paper doesn't really go into that sort of thing.
If you guys ever want to see more of this stuff it pops up constantly on physorg.com. There is tons of R&D going into batteries for the last 10 yr or so and new discoveries are being made all the time but you nearly never hear of them making it into a actual product. Why? Because doing something in a lab is very different from actually making a salable product.
In the future if you guys want to know if one of these announcements are actually for a fairly realistic product they'll usually give the cost of producing the compound, list current interested manufacturing parties, and/or give a date when its expected to be available for sale. If it doesn't give any of this information just give it a big 'ol "meh" because chances are it'll never see the light of day in a actual product or isn't going to be available for the better part of a decade.
Fundamental R&D is a good thing that needs more funding but I wish they'd focus on trying to develop a improved battery that uses existing manufacturing methods and materials instead of trying to reinvent the wheel every time. Theoretically they should be able to get quite a bit more power density and charge/re-charge durability out of current tech so this isn't some silly idea either.
Not even oil companies have the money to match what a super battery can bring in licensing fees.
It's not just oil companies which will try to block this though. A quality battery is the bane of multiple industries. As other people said, there's absolutely no way this ever sees the light of day.
Lunas
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oh like who
mining would be even more necessary as they are using solid electrolyte rather than liquid so a denser electrolyte so more lithium more rare earths and these things will likely be much more expensive.
Big oil is about the only ones seriously hurt by it.
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I dunno, the whole battery industry?
How well high would their profits last if every battery you bought was the last one you had to buy of that size? Sure they would make some profit on these batteries initially, but over the long haul, not so much, well unless they took the approach of the cordless tool industry and somehow changed the size/shape/output every few years.
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Except there are many things they can do to make their money back on these packs...
1. Charge circuits programmed to cease functioning after a set number of charges.
2. Go non-removable make the tool one piece non removable battery.
3. Lower the price of the batteries based on old tech keep the new forever batteries high.
4. Change the battery interface between tool generations
Combine all 4 of the above solutions.