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Call me skeptical but I have a hard time believing that this will work. Leave it to Washington DC to spend money on something that didn’t even work in the movies.
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Software Predicts Criminal Behavior
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Its only time before the WOPR predicts humanity will destroy itself so it cleanses us first with a nuclear strike!
Wow..... just wow.
All I can think of is that if I were living in Baltimore or Philadelphia, I'd be filing suit. Not because I'm a criminal (I'm pretty much the opposite, at least until speeding becomes a Felony). But the idea of punishing someone for a crime that he not only didn't commit, but which HASN'T BEEN COMMITTED strikes me as just so bizarre. "Minority Report" as the future... that's a world that I'll pick up arms and fight against.
All I can think of is that if I were living in Baltimore or Philadelphia, I'd be filing suit. Not because I'm a criminal (I'm pretty much the opposite, at least until speeding becomes a Felony). But the idea of punishing someone for a crime that he not only didn't commit, but which HASN'T BEEN COMMITTED strikes me as just so bizarre. "Minority Report" as the future... that's a world that I'll pick up arms and fight against.
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Bastards can "pre-blow me" if they think I am getting a fine for something they think I might do.
sweeper240
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This technology is not new, its the same stuff corporations have been using to predict
commodity values/price, consumer trends, and product preferences.
Plus my cousin develops "black box" computational probability software that could be adapted for the purpose of predictability as well.
http://www.sunsetsoft.com/
commodity values/price, consumer trends, and product preferences.
Plus my cousin develops "black box" computational probability software that could be adapted for the purpose of predictability as well.
http://www.sunsetsoft.com/
I predict you're only 3 letters away from becoming a criminal. The letters are D, I and S. I'm afraid I'll have to arrest you for your own good.
Parmenides
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Naw, they aren't that dumb. They would use modified versions that would predict that integrity, honesty, and prosperity will follow this politician. Kind of like Iran Elections. Also, I remember when 97% of Iraq voted to reelect Saddam Hessian back in the good old days.
You my friend are wrong, Washington would be exonerated.
bear jesus
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As far as i could see from skimmng throught he atricle its only being used to try and work out what level of supervision parolees should recive, to me that does not sound too bad but i admit the idea of using predictive software relative to people who are not already criminals commiting crimes in the future is not exactly somethign i would want or expect from "the land of the free"
LMAO....
This reeks of Minority Report and Skynet. Yes for now its just for parolees, but wait till it starts giving desirable results..
Earle:
"We don't need the Neanderthal.
Our computer has already examined
every scenario resulting from the appearance
of Simon Phoenix.
It's determined he'll try to set up
a drug lab and form a crime syndicate."
Huxley:
"That is correct."
Spartan:
"I hate to interrupt you two but that's fucking stupid.
You think he wants to start a business?
Phoenix is going for a gun."
"We don't need the Neanderthal.
Our computer has already examined
every scenario resulting from the appearance
of Simon Phoenix.
It's determined he'll try to set up
a drug lab and form a crime syndicate."
Huxley:
"That is correct."
Spartan:
"I hate to interrupt you two but that's fucking stupid.
You think he wants to start a business?
Phoenix is going for a gun."
PornoSatan
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"Steve, be careful, our software indicates you have a high chance of being murdered soon."
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Pre-Crime Technology To Be Used In Washington D.C.
Computers predict what crime will be committed where, by who and when
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Tuesday, Aug 24th, 2010
Law enforcement agencies in Washington D.C. have begun to use technology that they say can predict when crimes will be committed and who will commit them, before they actually happen.
The Minority Report like pre-crime software has been developed by Richard Berk, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Previous incarnations of the software, already being used in Baltimore and Philadelphia were limited to predictions of murders by and among parolees and offenders on probation.
According to a report by ABC News, however, the latest version, to be implemented in Washington D.C., can predict other future crimes as well.
When a person goes on probation or parole they are supervised by an officer. The question that officer has to answer is what level of supervision do you provide? Berk told ABC News, intimating that the program could have a bearing on the length of sentences and/or bail amounts.
The technology sifts through a database of thousands of crimes and uses algorithms and different variables, such as geographical location, criminal records and ages of previous offenders, to come up with predictions of where, when, and how a crime could possibly be committed and by who.
The program operates without any direct evidence that a crime will be committed, it simply takes datasets and computes possibilities.
People assume that if someone murdered then they will murder in the future, Berk also states, But what really matters is what that person did as a young individual. If they committed armed robbery at age 14 thats a good predictor. If they committed the same crime at age 30, that doesnt predict very much.
Critics have urged that the program encourages categorizing individuals on a risk scale via computer mathematics, rather than on real life, and that monitoring those people based on such a premise is antithetic to a justice system founded on the premise of the presumption of innocence.
Other police departments and law agencies across the country have begun to look into and use similar predictive technologies. The Memphis Police Department, for example uses a program called Operation Blue CRUSH, which uses predictive analytics developed by IBM.
Other forms of pre-crime technology in use or under development include surveillance cameras that can predict when a crime is about to occur and alert police, and even neurological brain scanners that can read peoples intentions before they act, thus
detecting whether or not a person has hostile intent.
It is not too far fetched to imagine all these forms of the technology being used together in the future by law enforcement bodies.
The British government has previously debated introducing pre-crime laws in the name of fighting terrorism. The idea was that suspects would be put on trial using MI5 or MI6 intelligence of an expected terror attack. This would be enough to convict if found to be true on the balance of probabilities, rather than beyond reasonable doubt.
The government even has plans to collect lifelong records on all residents starting at the age of five, in order to screen for those who might be more likely to commit crimes in the future.
Another disturbing possibility for such technology comes in the form of a financial alliance of sorts between Internet search engine giant Google and the investment arm of the CIA and the wider U.S. intelligence network.
Google and In-Q-Tel have recently injected a sum of up to $10 million each into a company called Recorded Future, which uses analytics to scour Twitter accounts, blogs and websites for all sorts of information, which is used to assemble actual real-time dossiers on people.
The company describes its analytics as the ultimate tool for open-source intelligence and says it can also predict the future.
Recorded Future takes in vast amounts of personal information such as employment changes, personal education and family relations. Promotional material also shows categories covering pretty much everything else, including entertainment, music and movie releases, as well as other innocuous things like patent filings and product recalls.
Those detached from any kind of moral reality will say If youve got nothing to hide then what is the problem with being scanned for pre-crime? If it keeps us all safe from murderers, rapists and terrorists Im all for it.
How far towards a literal technological big brother police state will we slip before people wake up to the fact?
Source:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/pre-crime-te....ington-d-c.html
Computers predict what crime will be committed where, by who and when
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Tuesday, Aug 24th, 2010
Law enforcement agencies in Washington D.C. have begun to use technology that they say can predict when crimes will be committed and who will commit them, before they actually happen.
The Minority Report like pre-crime software has been developed by Richard Berk, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Previous incarnations of the software, already being used in Baltimore and Philadelphia were limited to predictions of murders by and among parolees and offenders on probation.
According to a report by ABC News, however, the latest version, to be implemented in Washington D.C., can predict other future crimes as well.
When a person goes on probation or parole they are supervised by an officer. The question that officer has to answer is what level of supervision do you provide? Berk told ABC News, intimating that the program could have a bearing on the length of sentences and/or bail amounts.
The technology sifts through a database of thousands of crimes and uses algorithms and different variables, such as geographical location, criminal records and ages of previous offenders, to come up with predictions of where, when, and how a crime could possibly be committed and by who.
The program operates without any direct evidence that a crime will be committed, it simply takes datasets and computes possibilities.
People assume that if someone murdered then they will murder in the future, Berk also states, But what really matters is what that person did as a young individual. If they committed armed robbery at age 14 thats a good predictor. If they committed the same crime at age 30, that doesnt predict very much.
Critics have urged that the program encourages categorizing individuals on a risk scale via computer mathematics, rather than on real life, and that monitoring those people based on such a premise is antithetic to a justice system founded on the premise of the presumption of innocence.
Other police departments and law agencies across the country have begun to look into and use similar predictive technologies. The Memphis Police Department, for example uses a program called Operation Blue CRUSH, which uses predictive analytics developed by IBM.
Other forms of pre-crime technology in use or under development include surveillance cameras that can predict when a crime is about to occur and alert police, and even neurological brain scanners that can read peoples intentions before they act, thus
detecting whether or not a person has hostile intent.
It is not too far fetched to imagine all these forms of the technology being used together in the future by law enforcement bodies.
The British government has previously debated introducing pre-crime laws in the name of fighting terrorism. The idea was that suspects would be put on trial using MI5 or MI6 intelligence of an expected terror attack. This would be enough to convict if found to be true on the balance of probabilities, rather than beyond reasonable doubt.
The government even has plans to collect lifelong records on all residents starting at the age of five, in order to screen for those who might be more likely to commit crimes in the future.
Another disturbing possibility for such technology comes in the form of a financial alliance of sorts between Internet search engine giant Google and the investment arm of the CIA and the wider U.S. intelligence network.
Google and In-Q-Tel have recently injected a sum of up to $10 million each into a company called Recorded Future, which uses analytics to scour Twitter accounts, blogs and websites for all sorts of information, which is used to assemble actual real-time dossiers on people.
The company describes its analytics as the ultimate tool for open-source intelligence and says it can also predict the future.
Recorded Future takes in vast amounts of personal information such as employment changes, personal education and family relations. Promotional material also shows categories covering pretty much everything else, including entertainment, music and movie releases, as well as other innocuous things like patent filings and product recalls.
Those detached from any kind of moral reality will say If youve got nothing to hide then what is the problem with being scanned for pre-crime? If it keeps us all safe from murderers, rapists and terrorists Im all for it.
How far towards a literal technological big brother police state will we slip before people wake up to the fact?
Source:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/pre-crime-te....ington-d-c.html
The Columbians have been using data mining on the people in their supply chains for decades. There are certain patterns in behavior that tended to show up just before someone would turn states evidence in flow patterns and monetary spending trends.
After a time they became so convinced of the accuracy of the analysis and they started taking pro-active measures when the patterns first started. Very permanent pro-active measures.
Bout time the government caught up with where the drug cartels were 15 years ago...
The biggest database users on the planet? Drug cartels and porn operations.
Driving database development for a better tomorrow...
After a time they became so convinced of the accuracy of the analysis and they started taking pro-active measures when the patterns first started. Very permanent pro-active measures.
Bout time the government caught up with where the drug cartels were 15 years ago...
The biggest database users on the planet? Drug cartels and porn operations.
Driving database development for a better tomorrow...
BAAAAA! You have been fined 10 credits for violating the verbal morality statute!
In all seriousness, even Memphis .. yes.. the consistent 2nd or 3rd most dangerous city in the country according to the FBI.. has this software to predict where violence is very prone to happen so they can arrange and organize patrols better. They also use it to bust petty criminals where they know drug sales seem high according to the computations.
You know you're in a rough city when the police go to a Kroger parking lot with a blue semi. Park.. put down some steps and then dozens upon dozens of cop cars bring in criminals and parole jumpers from the local area to be processed in the mobile command center and then bussed away. I've literally sat and watched them work a neighborhood like that and get upwards of 11 school buses worth of people to haul straight to jail and skip all the paperwork at HQ.
That said, I like the name: Operation Blue CRUSH. It's hated enough to be in rap songs locally but supposedly it's cut crime like 28% though.. we might move back to 4th on the list now.
You know you're in a rough city when the police go to a Kroger parking lot with a blue semi. Park.. put down some steps and then dozens upon dozens of cop cars bring in criminals and parole jumpers from the local area to be processed in the mobile command center and then bussed away. I've literally sat and watched them work a neighborhood like that and get upwards of 11 school buses worth of people to haul straight to jail and skip all the paperwork at HQ.
That said, I like the name: Operation Blue CRUSH. It's hated enough to be in rap songs locally but supposedly it's cut crime like 28% though.. we might move back to 4th on the list now.