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Socket 775 desktop Dothans coming this year!

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I saw this linked on another board:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55545

Yes, i'm sure that's breaking the NDA. In case his post is deleted, it says in badly translated English (from Japanese):
Dothan desktop S775 (800MHz FSB I think since 200MHz QDR = 800MHz) processors are set to be introduced in July and available in September at 1.6GHz-2.4GHz. It's going to have a new name. A 533MHz FSB version will be introduced at 2.66GHz.
 
SIR

You are the man...

Any chance at all of it being Dual core...

Oh and the new name...
Intel Pentium 5 :)
 
USMC2Hard4U said:
SIR

You are the man...

Any chance at all of it being Dual core...

Oh and the new name...
Intel Pentium 5 :)
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Nope. Pentium 5 would be redundant. They are going with Pentium D for dual core processors.
 
Awesome news. Just read in the SFF forum about an Aopen that has a Pentium M 479>478 adapter. Great news all around on the Pentium M front. Intel's on the verge of taking a huge step forward.
 
farkin awesome.

Awesome news. Just read in the SFF forum about an Aopen that has a Pentium M 479>478 adapter. Great news all around on the Pentium M front. Intel's on the verge of taking a huge step forward.
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linkage? that sounds so sweet, id love to put a p-m in my is7-e...
 
I'd be highly skeptical.

Taking the contents of a random post translated second hand from another language on an Internet message board for fact is foolish.

No one else has mentioned this anywhere.
 
Lazn_Work said:
It's ASUS (not Aopen) and the part number is: CT-479 http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/display/20050303164459.html

But the BIOS on the MB will have to support Pentium M's to be able to use this.. So not every Socket 478 will work. (I assume most ASUS MB's will)

==>Lazn
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yes, Aopen was the brand of comp in the SFF forum. Asus is the adapter manufacturer.

http://www.techpowerup.com/?2406


ct479-1b.jpg
 
DanIdentity said:
I'd be highly skeptical.
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Nothing wrong with that.

No one else has mentioned this anywhere.
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It's under NDA, so no one will mention it. The same poster (sxs112) has been reliable on several other pre-release information, recently with the A64 4200+ (2.6GHz) and the details of the 90nm A64s back in July of last year (completely accurate).
 
I'm a bit skeptical myself, mostly because how is this going to fit into Intel's marketing plan? With the Pentium D being their big desktop push, isn't a single-core Dothan clocked at a much lower frequency going to send out mixed messages to the masses? I am more excited for a high-performance Dothan based system than even a dual-core P4 core design, but I don't see how it's going to work out in the short term.
 
Maybe we will see a huge change on their upcomming processor roadmap. Maybe the Desktop Pentium M will replace the Pentium D. Intel isnt going for CPU MHz anymore, they are accually going for performance. As long as they keep the desktop Pentium M at the same MHz speed as AMD chips than Marketing will be ok. I think that this is an outstanding transition.... They can release dual core Pentium Ms for the Desktop first in the Fall/Winter of this year, then introdouce the dual core mobile chips in Q1 of 06 as originally planned.

I think intel knew about this the entire time, they just kept it on lock down. This will be a devistating blow to AMD for the simple fact that Pressy sucks.... Enthusiasts know that. And the average user is going to buy intel anyway, regaurdless of speed. So its a win/win situation for Intel if they do this.
 
One hint from a few days ago was that Intel said they were targetting "60W TDP for mainstream desktops" in the long term. I posted the link here a few days ago. That is very simple to do with Dothans.
 
Intel can really go far with this if they do it right. I wouldent go as far as saying the should cancel the desktop Pentium D. But the Dothan should be the next core for the desktop, and it should be available to us this year, at least in Q4.

Maybe someone somewhere at intel read our message board. You never know.
 
USMC2Hard4U said:
Maybe someone somewhere at intel read our message board. You never know.
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There are several that used to post in this forum, and I think they still lurk....
 
This will deffinatly bring back faith for alot of enthusiasts if they accually release this chip. And espically if its dual core... they keep proclaiming dual core is the way of the future. I will be dissapointed in a single core desktop Pentium M.

I wish I could work for intel marketing. I have some great ideas to even further push their product. Not like they need it, they seem to have the grasp of the CPU market anyway....
 
JetUsafMech said:
There are several that used to post in this forum, and I think they still lurk....
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I'm actually active. Working on the next gen mobile and desktop right now. I can't confirm nor deny the existance of Dothans. Dothans [are/will be/can be] nice. Sorry guys NDA prohibits me from saying much more then that. :)
I love knowing exactly whats coming out 1 year from now, but hate not being able to do anything about it. (Except drool) at least I know when to wait for a new processor.
 
Dothan has some very real weaknesses, mostly in SIMD performance for multimedia tasks. Yes it's a great chip for office tasks, with the 2MB of low latency L2 cache and short pipeline, but the SIMD performance is really lacking. Most any SSE optimized task is going to show Dothan getting its behind handed to it, even with massive overclocks. "From the graph, you can see the P-M runs pretty close to the A64 and Sempron 3100+, both clocked to 1.8GHz. You do have to read the fine print, which shows that those are the results from the overclocked P-M; at stock speed, it really is that dismal at video encoding...I’ve also found it to be extremely plodding with Windows Media Encoder. The SSE/SSE2 performance of this processor is very weak, and will need to be corrected before Intel ever dreams of officially bringing this platform to the desktop." - http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=656&pid=2483

Dothan is a great platform for mobile office/productivity tasks, and can be incredibly zippy in some other tasks. But the higher clocked versions are incredibly expensive, the desktop platforms for it are very weak, the overclocking options are extremely limited, and the SIMD performance is pretty bad. The 478>479 adapter will rectify one (platform), and possibly rectify another (overclocking), of those deficiencies, but Dothan on desktop is still very much a toy rather than a workhorse. The last system I built had a 3500+ Winnie with a SilentBoost K8. 800RPM and AS5 were enough to keep it below 50C under any load, with the 120mm case fans below 1000 RPM. That system is crazy quiet, and quite a bit cheaper than an equivalent P-M system. In short, Dothan is not the solution to the desktop performance gap that AMD has widened of late. Rest assured however, that Intel will not sit idly by and watch AMD continue to grab market share. And the response from Intel could be swifter and stronger than any of us currently know.
 
Yeah the Pentium M does have it's weaknesses some of which may be more the platform than the core. No doubt cost of construction and several other key things are why Dothan hasn't made it to the desktop yet.
 
pigpen said:
yes, Aopen was the brand of comp in the SFF forum. Asus is the adapter manufacturer.

http://www.techpowerup.com/?2406


ct479-1b.jpg
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AOPEN makes a Pentium M SFF. (no adapter, nothing to do with an adapter) It uses the same chipset as laptops 855.

I was saying in that thread that if Asus can make an adapter for 479 to 478. Someone should be able to make a motherboard with the "adapter built in".

And I wanted a SFF with an 875 or 915 chipset that supported 479 pin Pentium M's. But if Intel releases a 775 pin Pentium M even better!!
 
This is frikkin' awsome! I've heard that the limited FSB on the Pentium M processors is the main "holding-back" factor. With an increase to 800FSB, this processor could be the one that dethrones the FX-55 from it's position as the King of Gaming Performance. A P-M at 2.06 GHz outperforms an FX-55 (albeit the P-M is overclocked and the FX-55 isn't). A P-M at stock speed of 2.6GHz should without a doubt kill anything that comes it's way. Ohhh, now if only a P-M board with SLI is released by the likes of DFI, ASUS or MSI...*drools*
 
sac_tagg said:
This is frikkin' awsome! I've heard that the limited FSB on the Pentium M processors is the main "holding-back" factor. With an increase to 800FSB, this processor could be the one that dethrones the FX-55 from it's position as the King of Gaming Performance. A P-M at 2.06 GHz outperforms an FX-55 (albeit the P-M is overclocked and the FX-55 isn't). A P-M at stock speed of 2.6GHz should without a doubt kill anything that comes it's way. Ohhh, now if only a P-M board with SLI is released by the likes of DFI, ASUS or MSI...*drools*
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The limited FSB and single channel DDR. increase the FSB to 800+ and add dual channel ram... and it should KICK some SERIOUS ASS.

Plus it could have 8xAGP instead of 4x, not that that will make a big difference. but it might help a LITTLE.
 
The Pentium M is not memory-bandwidth-limited. Where'd you hear it was? :confused:
 
xonik said:
The Pentium M is not memory-bandwidth-limited. Where'd you hear it was? :confused:
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Yeah, it's Sandra CPU scores dont change at all when going from 20x100 to 15x533 (both 2.0GHz).
 
the huge l2 cache of dothan masks most of the bandwidth-related issues..
there's no or little difference if using single- or dual-channel ram with dothan.
look here
 
pxc said:
Nothing wrong with that.


It's under NDA, so no one will mention it. The same poster (sxs112) has been reliable on several other pre-release information, recently with the A64 4200+ (2.6GHz) and the details of the 90nm A64s back in July of last year (completely accurate).
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Yeah, that dude has got the hookups. Most of his posts are pretty reliable new info. It's been speculated at Xtremesystems that he's probably in Taiwan with some major connections.
 
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