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Socket 1567 boards

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Figured I might post this here, since the SMP subforum seems to be kinda dead and folk here seem to be knowledgeable about such things.
I got four ES 8-core Xeons (X7550, I believe) off of Ebay for $252 and am trying to track down a system to put them in. The only boards seem to be Supermicros, which are ~$2K on Ebay right now and unobtainable elsewhere.
I've been looking into surplus/barebones/slightly sketchy OEM systems; so far, I've come across the Proliant DL580/980 G7, Poweredge R810/910, IBM X3850 X5, Fujitsu Primergy TX600 and PrimeQuest 1800E2...did I miss anything? Is there any other manufacturer of boards for these beasts?
 
Yes we have been through the 1567 ordeal. Those are pretty much your options. Our problems have been the locating and purchase of motherboards as well. Not very many that have come through here have run them since it is an expensive platform and not very cost effective for what we do here.
 
yeah motherboard options are going to be very limited for LGA-1567. 1567 was basically just a "hey look we released a quad channel DDR3 xeon platform" as a place holder til lga-2011 comes out.
 
yeah motherboard options are going to be very limited for LGA-1567. 1567 was basically just a "hey look we released a quad channel DDR3 xeon platform" as a place holder til lga-2011 comes out.
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Not really. 1567 chips connect to their ram by four "flexible memory buffers" each of which has two memory channels (so you get 8 memory channels per socket) and it supports systems with up to 8 sockets. IIRC you can in principle stuff 2TB of ram in an 8 socket LGA1567 system (though i'm not sure if the modules are available yet) which i'm pretty sure is more than any other PC compatible platform.

LGA2011 is somewhere between LGA1366 and LGA1567 in terms of platform capabilities.
 
plugwash said:
Not really. 1567 chips connect to their ram by four "flexible memory buffers" each of which has two memory channels (so you get 8 memory channels per socket) and it supports systems with up to 8 sockets. IIRC you can in principle stuff 2TB of ram in an 8 socket LGA1567 system (though i'm not sure if the modules are available yet) which i'm pretty sure is more than any other PC compatible platform.

LGA2011 is somewhere between LGA1366 and LGA1567 in terms of platform capabilities.
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Lol... Um yeah... I had 4 2ghz 1567 octos... I but found the system cost not worth the performance...

Specially when harbringer creams a system with quad e7-4870 s
 
I'm putting together a LGA1567 system right now and had to spring for an X8QBE-F. Not the cheapest board I ever bought, that's for sure. But you're right in that your options are highly limited. Fun fact - SM is the only non-OEM making LGA1567 boards, yet Dynatron Q3's won't fit SM boards. Three cheers for thinking caps!
 
What price did you find that for?

because you can typically build a quad amd dodeca box for 3 grand...which from what I can tell is about what that board costs...
 
X8QBE-F's can typically be had for $1900 if you shop around or have a good relationship with SM.
 
Tobit said:
X8QBE-F's can typically be had for $1900 if you shop around or have a good relationship with SM.
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Oh sweet thats much better... only 3x as much for the intel board than for a superior g34 :p
 
Patriot said:
What price did you find that for?

because you can typically build a quad amd dodeca box for 3 grand...which from what I can tell is about what that board costs...
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Yeah... we briefly discussed this in the MP section. The total cost of the rig will come in at just under $5k after tax and shipping (I'm from Canuckistan afterall). The board itself was $1840. I'm able to split some of the cost with a buddy who needed access to a >64 thread machine to test out the scaling behaviour of some software he's working on, hence why G34 would not have fit the bill.
 
Dead Things said:
Yeah... we briefly discussed this in the MP section. The total cost of the rig will come in at just under $5k after tax and shipping (I'm from Canuckistan afterall). The board itself was $1840. I'm able to split some of the cost with a buddy who needed access to a >64 thread machine to test out the scaling behaviour of some software he's working on, hence why G34 would not have fit the bill.
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IL is 16cores a socket ;)
 
16 "cores" you mean. ;) Besides, I guess I'm not sure what you're trying to say. AMD walked away from 8P after Istanbul. I have heard of custom multinode boxes using a non-NUMA 2x4P config for G34 using some kind of hypertransport or infiniband connect, but I'm sure they'd be both significantly more expensive than $5k and not able to provide the proper >64 thread properties needed by the software guys.
 
Dead Things said:
16 "cores" you mean. ;) Besides, I guess I'm not sure what you're trying to say. AMD walked away from 8P after Istanbul. I have heard of custom multinode boxes using a non-NUMA 2x4P config for G34 using some kind of hypertransport or infiniband connect, but I'm sure they'd be both significantly more expensive than $5k and not able to provide the proper >64 thread properties needed by the software guys.
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interlagos is 8 modules 16 cores x 4p giving you a total of 64 threads without using hyperthreading.
 
Dead Things said:
16 "cores" you mean. ;) Besides, I guess I'm not sure what you're trying to say. AMD walked away from 8P after Istanbul. I have heard of custom multinode boxes using a non-NUMA 2x4P config for G34 using some kind of hypertransport or infiniband connect, but I'm sure they'd be both significantly more expensive than $5k and not able to provide the proper >64 thread properties needed by the software guys.
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Yeah with g34 amd went to putting 8p in a 4p using mcm...
still cray makes 8p nodes...

anyhow be careful when picking ram... I found the 1567 setup to be extremely picky...

sirmonkey1985 said:
interlagos is 8 modules 16 cores x 4p giving you a total of 64 threads without using hyperthreading.
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yeah but we all know the performance isn't quite 16 cores.... or assuming server is as bad as desktop...
 
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