So when are plasma monitors gonna replace lcds?

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You can see plasmas at all angles, plasmas have higher contrast and brightness then crts OR Lcds...

Tell me, what are so good about lcds? They are smaller, use less power, are brighter, and then what? You can't see them at all sides and the colors are horrid.

So?
 
1. Plasmas still more expensive
2. Heavier due to glass filments and layers
3. Not energy efficent
4. Put out alot of heat, especially the larger sizes
5. Plasmas suffer burn ins from static images. A big no no for gaming
6. SED tech will kick Plasma's, LCD, CRT's ass.
 
The first problem is the pixel pitch of plasma can only get so small IIRC, which is why you don't see anything smaller than 37" plasma.

And of course, as the gent above me said, even though burn in has been minimized on the latest generation of panels, to use plasma as a dedicated computer display would still be cause for concern due to things like icons and task bar almost always being in the same place day in, day out.

In regards to SED, it took them a lot of effort to shrink the pixel pitch to 42" displays - I have my doubts we'll see it for computers unfortunately.
 
once i heard that plasma resolutions are square like 1024x1024 and their screen ratio is 16:9 so it would look stretched. so ive heard..

sry for my bad english xD
 
There are one or two panels that have a square pixel, the rest are rectangular.
 
I am going to assume this thread is a joke. If you take a quick look at the Plasma market you will notice that it is dissapearing. Quite a few brands have dropped their Plasma lines, mainly OEM's at this point, but many more will soon. Once the 57 and 60 inch LCD's are introduced in September you will see tehe 40 inch plasma begin to fall off. Once pricing on the these large LCD's drops to a reasonably cost Plasma will dissapear for good.

Intro price on the 57 inch will be right about $15,000.

Also no one mentioned one of the bigger issues with Plasmas is color decay. Anthing that users phosphors to create its picture will suffer from color decay with time and this causes your contrast to fall way offf. I believe SED would also suffer from this too but I cant say for sure.
 
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Also no one mentioned one of the bigger issues with Plasmas is color decay. Anthing that users phosphors to create its picture will suffer from color decay with time and this causes your contrast to fall way offf. I believe SED would also suffer from this too but I cant say for sure.
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Not any faster then CRT's considering it uses the same base technology of phosporus, just modified is all.

SED is gonna kick so much ass.
 
I would put my money on the new CCFL's which will cover 95% of the adobe gammut and the LED's which can cover 107% of the gammut before any SED.
 
travbomb said:
I am going to assume this thread is a joke. If you take a quick look at the Plasma market you will notice that it is dissapearing. Quite a few brands have dropped their Plasma lines, mainly OEM's at this point, but many more will soon. Once the 57 and 60 inch LCD's are introduced in September you will see tehe 40 inch plasma begin to fall off. Once pricing on the these large LCD's drops to a reasonably cost Plasma will dissapear for good.

Intro price on the 57 inch will be right about $15,000.

Also no one mentioned one of the bigger issues with Plasmas is color decay. Anthing that users phosphors to create its picture will suffer from color decay with time and this causes your contrast to fall way offf. I believe SED would also suffer from this too but I cant say for sure.
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Plasma market is growing though. Both panasonic and pioneer are expanding their plasma production because they can't meet demand. Many of there models are often very hard to find.

Plasma are better than LCDs for watching tv, watching dvds, watching hd-dvds, and watching blu-ray movies. LCDs just can't compete in terms of image quality.

Also, you mention color decay. And you are right the colors do shift over time but you can always just get the set touched up once a year or something by an isf calibrater if you care enough to. But you fail to realize that the ccfls in lcds get dimmer over time and the colors shift too. You can't just calibrate and LCD once and expect it to stay just as bright and produce the same colors without calibration. Both plasmas and lcds reach their half-brightness at 60,000 hours. Direct-view crts reach their half-brightness at 30,000 hours. And everytime you change the bulb in a dlp, lcos/sxrd, and rp-lcd you have to touch the colors up if you want them to be as accurate as possible.

Plasmas aren't for hardcore gaming. They are for people that want the best image quality they can get when watching tv and movies at home without getting a high-end fp like the 004 or ruby. I seriously doubt the image quality of sharp's and samsung's 57" lcds tops the best plasmas from pioneer, fujitsu, runco, marantz, etc. even when sitting directly in front of the lcd with no off axis viewing.

That being said, plasma is not a viable technology for computers. So they will never replace lcds. In fact, I seriously doubt that sed will replace lcds for computer use. Right now I am looking forward to affordable lcds that use leds, and see that as the next step for monitors rather than another phosphor based technology.
 
Well my perspective is from the side LCD sales so maybe it is biased, but I am constantly working with large accounts who bought plasmas a year or two ago who now need to replace them and are going with LCD instead.

Plasma can not with stand constant use like LCD can and that to me is going to be why it will not last. There is so much money to be made in digital signage that manufacturers are going to focus on the LCD's eclusively at some point when they can get large enough. The only market Plasma is any good for is home theatre use. LCD can be used as computer monitors, home theatre, digital signage and just about anything else. The LCD market is so much larger at some point Plasma will have to be dropped to focus resources there.

I agree with you about LED's. I use the NEC LCD2180WG-LED fairly regularly and it is amazing. Thats another thing in favor of LCD's, they still need to be utilized with new technology like LED.

But I guess only time will tell.
 
There's also an altitude limitation on Plasmas. They cannot be sold to folks above 9,000 ft or so...which is a lot of folks. As soon as you fire up most plasmas at that high of an altitude, you'll be buying a new one. Also, the ones I've seen are noisy and hot. Lots of humming going on.
 
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