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So Sad....

Good to know. I may upgrade my SSD at the same time, which would be worth a reload. I have had a few issues with my current system load.
 
DDU do not work when I went from amd to nvida. Had to reinstall.

Could be any number of reasons. Used DDU to go from 270X to 770, as well as the other way from 660 Ti to 290 for some buds of mine and both went without a hitch. They were both running Win7 if it makes any difference.

Also as I said earlier, if I'm able to port a goddamn SSD that was in my desktop that was on the X79 chipset successfully to my HM87 laptop without anything going wrong, a GPU swap should be a piece of cake.
 
It worked but not without being flaky with lock ups and black screens. Reinstall cured all.
 
Could be any number of reasons. Used DDU to go from 270X to 770, as well as the other way from 660 Ti to 290 for some buds of mine and both went without a hitch. They were both running Win7 if it makes any difference.

Used DDU when I went from my 290 to my 980, worked like a charm. There were residual components left of CCC, had to get rid of those manually.

Express uninstalling all AMD software at one point removed my USB drivers from by Intel board. Made me lol... after I angrily reinstalled them.
 
Because there's more to video card shopping than price alone?

For someone who pays $2K for a couple of video cards, I can understand not caring about price. This does not seem to be the OP's case. The 980 is simply poor value and that should be a consideration when suggesting someone buy something.
 
For someone who pays $2K for a couple of video cards, I can understand not caring about price. This does not seem to be the OP's case. The 980 is simply poor value and that should be a consideration when suggesting someone buy something.

Could use the same logic when speaking about AMD, their financial health, their drivers (3+ months and no updates), etc. etc.

In either case, my vote was for a 970 or a used 980.

EDIT: and no hate on the 290. I'm probably one of the only people on this forum that has owned almost everything (290, 290X, 980) - just not a 970, incidentally. Heh. My statement reflects the total value statement of the card - not just the price.
 
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Could use the same logic when speaking about AMD, their financial health, their drivers (3+ months and no updates), etc. etc.

In either case, my vote was for a 970 or a used 980.

It's not the same logic, although you could raise those separate points if you wanted to. Sounds more like fear mongering though. For example, do you honestly think AMD is ready to go out of business? I honestly know it's going to take $200+ dollars more out of your pocket for ~10% more performance.
 
I don't think I could ever spend that much money on a video card...I just don't have the kind of disposable income. My MO since I built my first gaming PC back in the late 90s was finding the sweet spot on the price/performance curve. I think that space is occupied presently by the 290, 290x, 970 cards. But I'm happy for folks who enjoy going with the expensive cards. Just not for me.
 
It's not the same logic, although you could raise those separate points if you wanted to. Sounds more like fear mongering though. For example, do you honestly think AMD is ready to go out of business? I honestly know it's going to take $200+ dollars more out of your pocket for ~10% more performance.

970 isn't $200+ more.

AMD is in bad shape. They have a glut of product in the marketplace (due to oversupply when the bitcoin thing died off prematurely) and have delayed their 390X due to that. They haven't updated their drivers in a long time. It's all bad signs in terms of what a gamer wants - timely updates so they can play their games and easy setup (GeForce Experience goes a long way there).

$350 970 or 290X, $250 290 or 960...I'm not saying the 290 isn't a good value. It's a great one. But that's one of it's primary pluses whereas the NVIDIA side has more going for it. But you're right, it's $100. My only point was that there is more to this decision than price alone. That's all.

I don't think I could ever spend that much money on a video card...I just don't have the kind of disposable income. My MO since I built my first gaming PC back in the late 90s was finding the sweet spot on the price/performance curve. I think that space is occupied presently by the 290, 290x, 970 cards. But I'm happy for folks who enjoy going with the expensive cards. Just not for me.

It's a toss up between the 290 and 970 and that decision is yours. Both are great cards.
 
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I'd say 290/× only if you have a water cooling rig and can add another block to it and a 750 min power supply.

The noise and heat of that card killed it for me. Of course adding another gpu block adds to the price so 970 all the way If you can't afford a 980.

Yeah 280x over a 960 anyday. Takes 2 960s in sli just to basicly match the 970.
 
^ the noise/heat complaints are far overblown, IMO. I had launch/reference 290 and 290X cards and yes, they're loud - but it's not that insane. I game with headphones. It's fine. :)
 
Hey, guys. Are there any other forums for video card discussion that you would recommend?
 
Hey, guys. Are there any other forums for video card discussion that you would recommend?

Overclock.net is about the only other one that I go to. It's secondary to this one, in my mind.
 
Was a time decades ago when I was reinstalling like every hour after failed attempts at overclocking hehe. Had the energy for it in my 20s but now at 42 not so much.

Oh I feel you on that one.
 
Overclock.net is about the only other one that I go to. It's secondary to this one, in my mind.

absolutely ocn. btw the GTX 970 is not a great buy as its already showing its limitations in games like Rome Total War Atilla at 1080p with uneven frametimes and stuttering due to the memory partition. Things are going to only get worse in future.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Total-War-Attila-PC-259548/Specials/Test-Benchmarks-1151602/

I would say a R9 290 or R9 290X is still a good option without any quirks. Sapphire Tri-X is one of the best cooling solutions. low core and vrm temps and fan noise.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202079
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202080

But frankly I would advise you to wait till Computex (early June). AMD's R9 390 and 380 series with HBM is likely to cause major price cuts on Nvidia GTX 980. You could decide based on reviews.
 
Overclock.net is about the only other one that I go to. It's secondary to this one, in my mind.


They're all secondary to [H], IMHO. I've received a few suggestions and have checked them but none compare to what we have here.

And I've decided to sit tight for the time being. Will keep an eye out for great deals and/or wait for new cards to be released.
 
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