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Snow Leopard question

wtf.


guess im upgrading. archive and install was the best way IMO. kinda pissed they removed it.

guess i also have to read about all the little nuances of 10.6

Use time machine to migrate all your files back to the clean install.
 
wtf.


guess im upgrading. archive and install was the best way IMO. kinda pissed they removed it.

guess i also have to read about all the little nuances of 10.6

base 10 is my only gripe right now, so annoying... i don't even have it yet and i just dread this.

it might not be as bad as i think, but my god, i'll never know for real what a files size *really* is from the finder results on it, ugh, how will I know what I'm actually uploading to my webservers etc.. it's just a stupid thing to change.
 
all I want to know is how to change the counting back to base 2 from base 10, which is probably the most annoying thing in the world.

Simple. You don't. It's hard-coded.

Blame the hard drive manufacturers, or the computing industry in general. But it's here. 1 GB now means 1,000 MB, not 1,024 MB.
 
Simple. You don't. It's hard-coded.

Blame the hard drive manufacturers, or the computing industry in general. But it's here. 1 GB now means 1,000 MB, not 1,024 MB.

That is so not okay with me.

It adds an insanely unnecessary level of confusion between devices. I hope to god there is some way to change it's preference hidden deep in terminal, my god.

Ugh.

Files will mean different things on all my OS' and on the internet and all my devices, sure it's not *technically* different as in it's the same percentage of space out of the total, but the fact that it's different is just ridiculous, this isn't being some sort of forerunner in correcting something, it's just being stupid.
 
this isn't being some sort of forerunner in correcting something, it's just being stupid.

It's actually the opposite, the stupidity came first and then Apple bowed to it, probably because they're tired of getting calls asking why their hard drives say 250GB but they only have 220GB of free space.

I'm sure someone will come up with a Terminal command to change it, or Apple will cave like they did with the opaque menu bar from Leopard and add a tickbox in a preference menu somewhere.
 
It's actually the opposite, the stupidity came first and then Apple bowed to it, probably because they're tired of getting calls asking why their hard drives say 250GB but they only have 220GB of free space.

I'm sure someone will come up with a Terminal command to change it, or Apple will cave like they did with the opaque menu bar from Leopard and add a tickbox in a preference menu somewhere.

I meant that they're not going to cause other pc makers and device makers to change their manner of reporting the data, it's ingrained and it's what makes sense, it's the way we measure with computers because computers are *binary*, base of 2.

I am not looking forward to explaining to my sister and girlfriend and such about this change, if they notice a song is a different size or a picture is now a different size, and they ask me if something happened, what the hell do I tell them.. it's a weird situation.

"Why is my flash drive on my Mac 8GB but on my PC 7.63(ish)GB?"
 
No CD key at all. Again, this isn't Windows. There's no copy protection. And when Apple sells volume licenses, such as family packs, they're basically trusting you to be honest, rather than taking the dishonest way out in buying one disc and installing it on multiple computers. There's nothing stopping you from doing that, since there's no copy protection, license key, etc.

Can we confirm no serial? I remember Leopard was like that and I used the same disc on a couple of computers at home just fine.
 
Can we confirm no serial? I remember Leopard was like that and I used the same disc on a couple of computers at home just fine.
No serial, I just got it. So yeah you can buy 1 disk and use it on other computers.
 
Quick install. Wow. Only took about 18 minutes. Easiest OS upgrade I've done ever, most likely.

Did not do a clean install---I just upgraded. I can honestly say that my bias against upgrades has been officially broken. I ALWAYS used to do clean installs. I am kind of OCD about having my computers operating system crystal-clean, and I think anyone with a fine-functioning install of Leopard should have absolutely no reservations about doing the upgrade option.

A few highlights:
-I gained back about 18GB of space.
-It is MUCH faster than Leopard. Better boot times and just all around faster.
-Only broke two things for me: Chax and MenuMeters
-iChat reliability MUCH improved
-Overall GREAT
 
18GB back? There is no way the upgrade did that.

It's a combination of backend optimization and Snow Leopard counting hard drive space differently. Leopard counted in base 2 (1,024 MB = 1 GB), Snow Leopard counts in base 10 (1,000 MB = 1 GB.)

1,024 kibibytes is now 1 mebibyte; 1,024 mebibytes is now 1 gibibyte.
1,000 kilobytes is now 1 megabyte; 1,000 megabytes is now 1 gigabyte.

Beyond the counting, there's a lot of backend stuff going on. Snow Leopard doesn't install any printer drivers by default, for example; you plug in your printer and Software Update will download the printer driver you need.
 
18GB back? There is no way the upgrade did that.

Absolutely! I hardly believed it myself but unless my computer is lying to me, it's absolutely true.

Before I installed 10.6 my iMac showed that I had about 203 GB free. I now have 221 GB free. My MacBook Pro showed that I had about 270 GB free, I now have 293 GB free.

I have only one printer driver on each computer, and I uninstalled iMovie and iDVD on each machine. As far as iLife apps go, I only have iPhoto and iWeb installed on my iMac. I don't have many apps on the iMac, and all I have on the MBP is music. Just basics.

Now I can definitely start using bootcamp for games on my MBP :)
 
The in-place upgrade took about 50 mins on a 7200 rpm HD. And I got back just under 4GB of disk space.
Otherwise, it went smoothly.
 
It's a combination of backend optimization and Snow Leopard counting hard drive space differently. Leopard counted in base 2 (1,024 MB = 1 GB), Snow Leopard counts in base 10 (1,000 MB = 1 GB.)

1,024 kibibytes is now 1 mebibyte; 1,024 mebibytes is now 1 gibibyte.
1,000 kilobytes is now 1 megabyte; 1,000 megabytes is now 1 gigabyte.

Beyond the counting, there's a lot of backend stuff going on. Snow Leopard doesn't install any printer drivers by default, for example; you plug in your printer and Software Update will download the printer driver you need.

Yeah..I knew about the drivers but I bet a lot is from the change in how it shows space. I forgot about that.
 
Does the network drives show on the desktop again like it did in 10.4?

It's a preference for the Finder, in pretty much all versions. Just change it to show what you want on the desktop. You can hide everything on the desktop, or show everything if you want.
 
In for a night of Snow Leopard upgrades on 3 machines in my house. Yay!
 
Also, I might add that if you disable the extra language translations, it saves you another 600mb. There are a few little options like that that you can customize and save a lil extra space.
 
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