ok so I finally went to my parents and picked up my stuff from newegg. (see sig) first shuttle took me 30 mins to build and I haven't had a single problem at ALL. I am very impressed with this little thing. I dont have Cool and Quiet enabled but I get 44C idle and 50C load. 24952 in 3dmark 01 and 6022 in 3dmark 05. I was very shocked that this thing didnt have any problems at all concerding all of the problems I have been hearing about the SN25P. Very impressed and I probably wont go back to normal ATX anytime soon. 