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SMB over AFP....?

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g5_rocks

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Hey all,
On my network in my home I have an iMac G5 that is now used for AFP. The machine is running 10.4. Then I have a few windows machines that are being used for samba file sharing. When I connect to my afp server I would like to be able to mount my samba raid array. How should I do this? Should I just use SharePoints?

Thanks for the help.
 
g5_rocks said:
Hey all,
On my network in my home I have an iMac G5 that is now used for AFP. The machine is running 10.4. Then I have a few windows machines that are being used for samba file sharing. When I connect to my afp server I would like to be able to mount my samba raid array. How should I do this? Should I just use SharePoints?

Thanks for the help.
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Well. . .I think you need to be more clear on your setup and what you want to do. To start with, you can't do "SMB over AFP". Both are protocols for connecting to shared volumes. You can do AFP (AppleTalk) - OR - SMB, depending on your sharing setup.

So. . .what, exactly, are you looking to do? Do you want the PCs to be able to access the iMac? Do you want to iMac to be able to access some/all of the Windows machines? When you say "connect to my AFP server", do you mean the iMac?

I'm guessing you won't really need SharePoints, but without clear info of what you want to do it will be hard to help.
 
I want to be able to access my SMB raid array via AFP (out of local network). The iMac would have the local samba share mounted, and then that would share the SMB share locally over AFP. Just doing SMB doesn't work for some weird reason. I believe that it has something to do with my ISP. In this case the iMac is the AFP server. The pc's do not need to be able to access the iMac. The iMac can currently access all of the pc's.
 
g5_rocks said:
I want to be able to access my SMB raid array via AFP (out of local network). The iMac would have the local samba share mounted, and then that would share the SMB share locally over AFP. Just doing SMB doesn't work for some weird reason. I believe that it has something to do with my ISP. In this case the iMac is the AFP server. The pc's do not need to be able to access the iMac. The iMac can currently access all of the pc's.
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First. . .a RAID array is not SMB or AFP. The method of access/sharing is handled by the computer that is running the array or NAS. So to say you have a "SMB RAID array" is incorrect. You may have a RAID array which you can access via SMB, but not an SMB RAID array.

So let me make sure I understand what you're trying to say. . .You have a Windows machine with a connected RAID array that is not on your local subnet. You need to access this array from your iMac. Is this correct so far?
 
g5_rocks said:
I want to be able to access my SMB raid array via AFP (out of local network). The iMac would have the local samba share mounted, and then that would share the SMB share locally over AFP. Just doing SMB doesn't work for some weird reason. I believe that it has something to do with my ISP. In this case the iMac is the AFP server. The pc's do not need to be able to access the iMac. The iMac can currently access all of the pc's.
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SMB really isn't that great for sharing out over the internet. Unless you're tunneling it through SSH or something, it's not really as secure enough as it needs to be for that. Why not just use VPN or a different sharing protocol like SFTP or SCP?
 
CEpeep said:
SMB really isn't that great for sharing out over the internet. Unless you're tunneling it through SSH or something, it's not really as secure enough as it needs to be for that. Why not just use VPN or a different sharing protocol like SFTP or SCP?
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As far as security, AFP isn't any better if you're just going straight in.

I just re-read his second post and if I read it right it sounds like a complete and total cluster. . .

Specifically. . ."The iMac would have the local samba share mounted, and then that would share the SMB share locally over AFP."

What this sounds like to me is - he can use his iMac to connect to his remote shared volume (RAID array) via SMB. Once he has the shared RAID volume mounted on the iMac, he then wants his other local machines to be able to log into his iMac and access that shared volume. Essentially, he wants to share a shared volume. If this is the case, he needs to save himself a LOT of hassle and set up VPN at the location with the RAID - and then set up his remote machines to each log in via VPN and access the RAID that way.

All of this is guesswork since the OP doesn't seem to be too clear on the terminology or his end goal.
 
I have 1 windows smb file server, and smb will not seem to work over the web. I have my iMac G5 running 10.4 in the same local network as the windows smb file server. FTP file sharing is setup, but of course 10.4 has issues writing to that (I'am writing to it with my powerbook g4 laptop). Yes I all ready do have a VPN setup, but that isn't always the most easiest solution. I would like it so when I connect to my iMac G5 via AFP the SMB local share would show up, and I could mount that.
 
CreativeMac said:
If this is the case, he needs to save himself a LOT of hassle and set up VPN at the location with the RAID - and then set up his remote machines to each log in via VPN and access the RAID that way.

All of this is guesswork since the OP doesn't seem to be too clear on the terminology or his end goal.
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Your scenario was what I was thinking of when I recommended VPN.
 
g5_rocks said:
I have 1 windows smb file server, and smb will not seem to work over the web. I have my iMac G5 running 10.4 in the same local network as the windows smb file server. FTP file sharing is setup, but of course 10.4 has issues writing to that (I'am writing to it with my powerbook g4 laptop). Yes I all ready do have a VPN setup, but that isn't always the most easiest solution. I would like it so when I connect to my iMac G5 via AFP the SMB local share would show up, and I could mount that.
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Dude. . .I still don't get what you need connect to what and where each of the players are located. First you say you your RAID array is "out of local network" and then later you say "iMac G5 running 10.4 in the same local network as the windows smb file server." Which is it, man?

I think you may be too caught up in AFP vs. SMB vs. FTP vs. VPN. Until you can get your story straight and present it clearly, there's not going to be much anyone can do other than make wild guesses at what you're trying to accomplish.
 
I was trying to say that I would like to access my file serve SMB computer out of network.
 
How are you handling your smb traffic? You do have to route it so your router knows what to do with a request for SMB. Basically you are not going to be able to access smb shares over AFP...two different file sharing protocols. I doubt you have a VPN setup (or atleast setup correctly) if you say it's not always "ideal". A VPN is the best solution for this exact scenario.
 
g5_rocks said:
I was trying to say that I would like to access my file serve SMB computer out of network.
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The way you describe everything is about the most confusing I've ever dealt with. So, I will have to make many assumptions.

Assumptions -
-- You have a few computers at Location A - a mix of Macs and Windows-based systems
-- You have a Windows computer at Location B
-- You would like all the computers at Location A to be able to access the Windows computer at Location B

If all of these assumptions are true, then I think you have two options.
1 - Use the public IP or get something like DynDNS to provide the destination to the Windows computer at Location B. Then you will need to get into your router to forward the ports for SMB traffic (and AFP if needed) to the Windows computer you want to connect to. Keep in mind, if you want to access the Windows computer via AFP, you will need to have Apple services running on the Windows machine to allow this. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that only Windows Server supports Appleshare Services. I'm pretty sure the client versions of Windows (2000 Pro, XP Home, XP Pro, and various versions of Vista) don't support AFP logins. At least not without a 3rd party application. Then at each computer at Location A, have them connect to the Windows machine using the public IP or DynDNS destination.
2 - (Reccomended) - Set up a VPN at Location B. Then set up each of the computers to log into the VPN. Once logged into the VPN, the computers at Location B will act as if they're on the local network at Location B and can log into the Windows machine at Location B as if they were in the same room - using whatever protocol (SMB/AFP/FTP) that the Windows machine at Location B is set up to support.
 
First of all the VPN isn't always the ideal solution for me, because some computers I use at school, or work have the internet connect locked. I will also just use sharepoints, and there is not a whole lot of traffic if any going through my network.
 
-2 windows machine with SMB, I only want to mount 1 of the hd's.
-The iMac G5 running 10.4, AFP is set up. I want it so when the local SMB share is mounted on the machine, I could just connect to this computer via AFP, login, and when the list of drives come up the local SMB share comes up, and I would be able to mount it on the powerbook g4.
-PowerBook G4 running 10.4. This machine comes with me nearly everywhere. This is the machine that I would Normally connect to the iMac G5 on.
-There are some other mac computers that I use, but they are not mine.

This whole process seems quite simple, but I just like to get some feedback. Just to clarify PowerBook G4 connects to the iMac G5, and the iMac G5 has the local SMB share mounted. The powerbook G4 Mounts the iMac G5's local SMB share.

Notes
-I all ready have a working domain name that redirects blablabla.org to my public ip.
-AFP is all ready setup.
-SMB works locally.
-VPN works, but wanted to know if the AFP would work.
 
g5_rocks said:
-SMB works locally.
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read my first response and you'll know the answer...here's a hint, SMB uses port 445 ;)

you're not going to be able to mount an AFP share and be able to see SMB shares. If you want to mount a SMB share you will have to specify a SMB connection.
 
g5_rocks said:
-This whole process seems quite simple, but I just like to get some feedback. Just to clarify PowerBook G4 connects to the iMac G5, and the iMac G5 has the local SMB share mounted. The powerbook G4 Mounts the iMac G5's local SMB share.

Notes
-I all ready have a working domain name that redirects blablabla.org to my public ip.
-AFP is all ready setup.
-SMB works locally.
-VPN works, but wanted to know if the AFP would work.
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So let me understand this. . .and I asked this before. . .

What it sounds like you want to do is -
Use the iMac G5 to connect to the Windows share using SMB. You then want other computers to be able to connect to the iMac and access that shared/server volume (that you logged into via SMB). Is this what you're trying to do?
 
And what your saying is that I can not make a share of a share. So my options would to just use my VPN, use a third party FTP writing utility, or work with SMB which doesn't seem to work, is that it?
Thanks for the help
 
g5_rocks said:
And what your saying is that I can not make a share of a share. So my options would to just use my VPN, use a third party FTP writing utility, or work with SMB which doesn't seem to work, is that it?
Thanks for the help
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What I described would mean that you want to share a shared volume. Whether through AFP or SMB (or a combination), it's not going to happen.

So. . .I would say that VPN is the best and most secure solution. You should use VPN when possible. If I read your other post correctly, there are times when you're on a public computer and want access to your shared volume. In this case, VPN may not be as practical. In this case, you may want to set up FTP services to the shared volume in addition to your VPN (and forward the ports in the router accordingly). Then when you're on a public machine, you'd simply have to download your favorite freeware FTP utility and set up a temporary connection, making sure you didn't save the settings for the next person to potentially use.
 
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