Slow [H]F Page Loads - Help Us Test

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Doing some testing this morning to see if we can find the cause of some folks slower page loads.

We removed a server from our DNS loop last night.

Type "nslookup hardforum.com" in a CMD/DOS window and see if you have a .204 server listed. If so, you cannot help us with the test right now. Your DNS should update later today and remove .204 from the DNS listing. If you are anxious and want to help, set Verizon's 4.2.2.1 DNS server in your Network settings as it has already updated.

THEN, and the CMD/DOS prompt type "ipconfing/flushdns". This will clear your dns cache.

NOW see if this impacts your page load times any and please report here. DO NOT report here if you have not fully followed the above instructions.
 
.205/.206 are the only ones I have. Pages are loading normally, 1-2s or less.
 
Actually it seems subjectively to have improved my load times some.

They were never painfully bad but it feels like the vtec is working at the moment.
 
flint338 said:
.205/.206 are the only ones I have. Pages are loading normally, 1-2s or less.
Click to expand...

Same here - super fast and first check only showed me .205/.206. I've not noticed any slow loads anytime recently.
 
Yep, nail on the head dude. I ctrl+F5'd a dozen [H] tabs after flushing and it's better now.
 
After flushing, it's showing only 205 and 206, and it's back to normal (very fast) again.
 
I flushed, Vista Ult SP1 with FF3.0:

Search: New Posts Showing results 1 to 15 of 404
Search took 0.09 seconds.

Even though it lists it at 0.09 it still took 3-4 seconds for the page to load.

At 10:37am eastern loading the usercp was quite slow the back to quick again in a minute

10:40 all of the threads I'm clicking on are taking about 12-20 seconds to load, in multiple forums
 
Three separate page loads took well over a minute each just now. Back to normal again though.


flushed dns and nslookup only shows .205 and .206




(Vista SP1, IE7)
 
had .205 and .206 earlier

flushed dns and I see .204 now

Everything back to normal.

THANKS, this show delivers.
 
.205 & .206 listed
FF vr2.0.0.14
East Coast

@10:41am it took(m:s.ms) 1:24.35 to load this section
@10:45am it took :20.28 to load this topic
@10:46am took 30.48 to load the post screen
Ran a tracert several times and the it hangs at
ae-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.134.21]
ae-83-83.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.162]

Compared to the norm loading times I average here these results are slow.

/note: DB error on Preview Post 1min load.
 
Ok have 205 and 206

flushed dns and still get 205 206

Page loads are still pretty slow
 
RES_78 said:
.205 & .206 listed
FF vr2.0.0.14
East Coast

@10:41am it took(m:s.ms) 1:24.35 to load this section
@10:45am it took :20.28 to load this topic
@10:46am took 30.48 to load the post screen
Ran a tracert several times and the it hangs at
ae-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.134.21]
ae-83-83.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.162]

Compared to the norm loading times I average here these results are slow.

/note: DB error on Preview Post 1min load.
Click to expand...

GREAT FEEDBACK!!!!

This helps me work out some things. I think we have a network issue here.
 
been working good for me since I flushed the DNS.

Here's my tracert to hardforums.com

Tracing route to hardforums.com [75.126.99.205]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms DD-WRT [X.X.X.X]
2 8 ms 8 ms 6 ms X.X.X.X
3 8 ms * 8 ms ge-1-4-ur01.hollywood.or.bverton.comcast.net [68.87.218.149]
4 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms te-9-3-ar01.beaverton.or.bverton.comcast.net [68.87.216.33]
5 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms te-0-4-0-4-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.241]
6 16 ms 15 ms 17 ms COMCAST-IP.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.79.104.106]
7 15 ms 27 ms 20 ms te-3-2.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.79.104.105]
8 15 ms 19 ms 30 ms ae-31-51.ebr1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.68.105.30]
9 21 ms 17 ms 17 ms ae-1-100.ebr2.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.69.132.18]
10 51 ms 52 ms 53 ms ae-2.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.54]
11 55 ms 52 ms 54 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.37]
12 64 ms 67 ms 71 ms ae-2.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.106]
13 69 ms 72 ms 70 ms ae-92-92.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.150]
14 62 ms 86 ms 60 ms ae-4-99.edge3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.19.200]
15 62 ms 63 ms 61 ms te2-1.cer01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [4.71.198.18]
16 63 ms 63 ms 62 ms po1.dar02.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.203]
17 64 ms 62 ms 62 ms po2.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.158]
18 63 ms 65 ms 63 ms router01.dal01.hardocp.com [75.126.49.82]
19 62 ms 64 ms 78 ms hebe.hardocp.com [75.126.99.205]
 
My trace. Pulled this one as it slowed down. Once the page slowed down then the database started throwing errors about a minute later....

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

4 9 ms 19 ms 10 ms gig5-0-0.dllatxchn-rtr5.tx.rr.com [70.125.217.10
4]
5 11 ms 27 ms 28 ms gig2-0-0.hstntxl3-rtr1.texas.rr.com [24.93.37.10
2]
6 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms xe-9-0-0.bar1.Houston1.Level3.net [4.79.88.29]
7 25 ms 18 ms 17 ms ae-13-13.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.137.138]

8 24 ms * * ae-91-91.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.134]

9 17 ms 21 ms 15 ms ae-4-99.edge3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.19.200]
10 17 ms 15 ms 24 ms te2-1.cer01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [4.71.19
8.18]
11 15 ms 14 ms 18 ms po1.dar02.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.11
8.203]
12 15 ms 14 ms 26 ms po2.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.11
8.158]
13 16 ms 17 ms 18 ms router01.dal01.hardocp.com [75.126.49.82]
14 16 ms 15 ms 17 ms 75.126.99.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com [75.1
26.99.206]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Kyle>
 
C:\Users\Steve>tracert www.hardforum.com

Tracing route to www.hardforum.com [75.126.99.205]
over a maximum of 30 hops:


2 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms 81-188-165-209.gci.net [209.165.188.81]
3 8 ms 5 ms 9 ms 34-128-165-209.gci.net [209.165.128.34]
4 40 ms 38 ms 37 ms 81-129-165-209.gci.net [209.165.129.81]
5 36 ms 38 ms 33 ms 221-129-165-209.gci.net [209.165.129.221]
6 37 ms 38 ms 33 ms acr2-so-1-2-0.seattle.savvis.net [208.172.81.153]

7 40 ms 57 ms 39 ms cr2-pos-0-0-1-1.Seattle.savvis.net [204.70.200.73]

8 * 81 ms 85 ms cr2-loopback.dan.savvis.net [208.172.130.71]
9 81 ms 76 ms 76 ms dpr1-ge-4-0-0.dallasequinix.savvis.net [204.70.196.30]

10 85 ms 201 ms 210 ms er1-te-2-1.dallasequinix.savvis.net [204.70.204.145]

11 79 ms 82 ms 79 ms te1-1.cer02.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [208.175.175.10]

12 * * * Request timed out.

13 112 ms 103 ms 92 ms po2.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.158]

14 93 ms 93 ms 92 ms router01.dal01.hardocp.com [75.126.49.82]

15 * * * Request timed out.

16 * 89 ms 99 ms hebe.hardocp.com [75.126.99.205]

Trace complete.
 
I was having problems off and on yesterday, it was very inconsistent and unpredictable. Flushed DNS cache and now showing .205 and .206 only and will note any slowdowns I see and provide the requested info. For what its worth, I don't seem to go through level 3 like RES_78 pointed out

Things very responsive right now
Vista Ult 64 SP1
Firefox 3.0
Charter Cable 10/1
EST (michigan)

NSlookup

Name: hardforum.com
Addresses: 75.126.99.206
75.126.99.205


Current tracert
1 17 29 27 72.249.0.65 -
2 10 10 9 207.88.185.37 207.88.185.37.ptr.us.xo.net
3 8 15 13 207.88.185.74 207.88.185.74.ptr.us.xo.net
4 10 7 7 216.52.191.22 border3.tge3-1-bbnet1.ext1.dal.pnap.net
5 15 15 19 216.52.189.30 te2-1.cer03.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com
6 15 19 12 66.228.118.211 po3.dar02.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com
7 11 11 10 66.228.118.158 po2.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com
8 12 10 9 75.126.49.82 router01.dal01.hardocp.com
9 13 7 13 75.126.99.205 hebe.hardocp.com


EDIT: took 38 seconds to load after hitting the Post Reply button
took 42 seconds to load after hitting edit to add this info

Heres a tracert taken while waiting for it to load

1 87 37 23 72.249.0.65 -
2 13 6 12 207.88.185.37 207.88.185.37.ptr.us.xo.net
3 217 203 212 207.88.185.74 207.88.185.74.ptr.us.xo.net
4 95 174 216 216.52.191.22 border3.tge3-1-bbnet1.ext1.dal.pnap.net
5 10 8 19 216.52.189.30 te2-1.cer03.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com
6 31 36 33 66.228.118.211 po3.dar02.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com
7 43 34 13 66.228.118.158 po2.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com
8 12 22 23 75.126.49.82 router01.dal01.hardocp.com
9 12 14 9 75.126.99.205 hebe.hardocp.com
 
Here's my tracert. Taken during a slow down that just occurred.

Code: 
Tracing route to hardforum.com [75.126.99.205]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    10 ms     7 ms    10 ms  dhcp1-177-158-66.cable.conwaycorp.net [66.158.177.1]
  3    12 ms     7 ms     8 ms  io1.conwaycorp.net [24.144.0.254]
  4     8 ms     8 ms     9 ms  68.88.181.181
  5    13 ms     8 ms     9 ms  bb2-p4-1.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net [151.164.242.206]
  6    22 ms    20 ms    23 ms  ex1-p2-0.eqdltx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.40.33]
  7    23 ms    21 ms    20 ms  asn6395-broadwing.eqdltx.sbcglobal.net [151.164.249.82]
  8    20 ms    17 ms    50 ms  te1-1.cer01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [157.238.228.10]
  9    20 ms    22 ms    22 ms  po1.dar01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.201]
 10    19 ms    21 ms    21 ms  po1.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.154]
 11    24 ms    24 ms    21 ms  router01.dal01.hardocp.com [75.126.49.82]
 12    22 ms    23 ms    23 ms  hebe.hardocp.com [75.126.99.205]

Trace complete.


Also got a DB error about thirty minutes ago trying to edit a post in this thread.
 
I've flushedDNS at least a dozen times, tracert shows me hitting .205 everytime. Nslookup only shows .205 and .206 But Network Monitor 3.1 is capturing packets from .204 when I browse the site. How can that be?
 
Yeah, 204 is back in nslookup and the slowdown is back.

Ryan, my guess would be the ad server. I suppose it could also be a general request for an image for example depending on how the load balancing is setup.
 
I show the .206 and .205 servers and the forums are loading at a normal speed for me.
 
I didn't have the .204 server in my list to begin with and the pages on loaded moderately faster after I flushed my DNS. Here's my tracert:

Code: 
Tracing route to hardforum.com [75.126.99.205]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     8 ms     6 ms     6 ms  10.237.128.1
  3     5 ms     8 ms     8 ms  71-95-227-81.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com [71.95.227.81]
  4     7 ms     7 ms     8 ms  71-95-227-53.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com [71.95.227.53]
  5    13 ms    13 ms    12 ms  te-3-2.car1.LasVegas1.Level3.net [4.71.176.25]
  6    13 ms    13 ms    11 ms  ae-11-11.car2.LasVegas1.Level3.net [4.69.133.114]
  7    22 ms    19 ms    19 ms  ae-2-2.car1.SaltLakeCity1.Level3.net [4.69.133.118]
  8    20 ms    19 ms    22 ms  ae-11-11.car2.SaltLakeCity1.Level3.net [4.69.133.122]
  9    44 ms    35 ms    36 ms  ae-5-5.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.133.126]
 10    59 ms    53 ms    54 ms  ae-2.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.106]
 11    48 ms    52 ms    54 ms  ae-72-72.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.142]
 12    47 ms    46 ms    47 ms  ae-2-79.edge3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.19.72]
 13    48 ms    49 ms    64 ms  te2-1.cer01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [4.71.198.18]
 14    56 ms    47 ms    47 ms  po1.dar02.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.203]
 15    48 ms    56 ms    46 ms  po2.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.158]
 16    48 ms    47 ms    50 ms  router01.dal01.hardocp.com [75.126.49.82]
 17    48 ms    47 ms    47 ms  hebe.hardocp.com [75.126.99.205]

Trace complete.

Here's my ping to hardforum if anybody's interested:

Code: 
Pinging hardforum.com [75.126.99.205] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Reply from 75.126.99.205: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=44
Reply from 75.126.99.205: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=44
Reply from 75.126.99.205: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=44

Ping statistics for 75.126.99.205:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 48ms, Maximum = 50ms, Average = 48ms
 
Only .205 and .206 are listed for me.

My first attempt to load hardforum.com today took ~20 sec (this was ~10 minutes ago)

After that, it's been faster - no more than 1-2 sec pause to open a page. I've visited ~20 threads.

Code: 
C:\Users\CalebB>tracert 75.126.99.205

Tracing route to hebe.hardocp.com [75.126.99.205]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     6 ms     3 ms     3 ms  192.168.2.1
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3    44 ms    17 ms    11 ms  GE-1-2-ur01.federalway.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.86.98.209]
  4    18 ms    16 ms     *     te-8-4-ar02.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.86.96.181]
  5    28 ms    12 ms    14 ms  68.86.90.222
  6    18 ms    19 ms    20 ms  68.86.90.221
  7    19 ms    20 ms    16 ms  COMCAST-IP.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.79.104.106]
  8    22 ms    21 ms    21 ms  te-3-2.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.79.104.105]
  9    17 ms    25 ms    28 ms  ae-32-54.ebr2.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.68.105.126]
 10    58 ms    54 ms    54 ms  ae-2.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.54]
 11    48 ms    54 ms    52 ms  ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.37]
 12    71 ms    69 ms    73 ms  ae-2.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.106]
 13    81 ms     *       76 ms  ae-82-82.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.146]
 14    80 ms    69 ms   102 ms  ae-3-89.edge3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.19.136]
 15    66 ms    67 ms    69 ms  te2-1.cer01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [4.71.198.18]
 16    72 ms    70 ms    69 ms  po1.dar02.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.203]
 17    70 ms    72 ms   109 ms  po2.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.158]
 18    74 ms    77 ms    71 ms  router01.dal01.hardocp.com [75.126.49.82]
 19    82 ms    69 ms    78 ms  hebe.hardocp.com [75.126.99.205]

Trace complete.


Searched forum for "Load Test"

Actual time: 7.5 sec. Search time as reported by [H]: 7.18 sec.

Showing results 1 to 15 of 905
Search took 7.18 seconds.
 
The forums seem to be more responsive than they were 30 mins ago. Page loads feel "snappier."

Had the .205 & .206 servers but flushed DNS anyway.

Code: 
C:\Users\Terry>nslookup hardforum.com
Server:  Wireless_Broadband_Router.home
Address:  192.168.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    hardforum.com
Addresses:  75.126.99.205
          75.126.99.206


C:\Users\Terry>tracert hardforum.com

Tracing route to hardforum.com [75.126.99.205]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Wireless_Broadband_Router.home [192.168.1.1]
  2     7 ms     7 ms     6 ms  71.244.14.1
  3    10 ms     7 ms     6 ms  P4-0.LCR-02.DLLSTX.verizon-gni.net [130.81.48.13
4]
  4     7 ms     7 ms     6 ms  130.81.29.178
  5    13 ms    19 ms     8 ms  0.so-7-1-0.XT4.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.173]
  6    12 ms     9 ms     9 ms  0.so-7-0-0.XL4.DFW13.ALTER.NET [152.63.98.81]
  7    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  0.so-7-0-0.GW3.DFW13.ALTER.NET [152.63.100.77]
  8    11 ms     8 ms    10 ms  internapGIGE1-gw.customer.alter.net [65.208.15.2
30]
  9    10 ms    10 ms    11 ms  border3.tge3-1-bbnet1.ext1.dal.pnap.net [216.52.
191.22]
 10    20 ms     9 ms    11 ms  te2-1.cer03.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [216.52.
189.30]
 11    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  po3.dar01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.11
8.209]
 12    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  po1.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.11
8.154]
 13    13 ms    12 ms    11 ms  router01.dal01.hardocp.com [75.126.49.82]
 14    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  hebe.hardocp.com [75.126.99.205]

Trace complete.
 
Thanks for the input, we are working forward from here.
 
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