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Sleeving cables with electrical tape?

mannyman said:
Are you trying to insult me over the internet? Lawl, Also way to Discus matters like an adult. :rolleyes:
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You seriously just took exception to a little language on an Internet forum board? Grow Up indeed. I didn't insult you, I put things in perspective. If we were a group of strangers standing around discussing the topic and someone said shit while explaining something, would you seriously look at the guy and ask him to "tone down his language"? Hell no you wouldn't, this is no different. If you can't handle life, don't go out in public.
 
Regardless of language, can anyone seriously look at the photos posted in this thread, and honestly tell me that electrical tape looks as neat and tidy as nylon sleeving and heatshrink?:eek:
 
Nightrainsrt4 said:
$2 bottle of RIT Dye would be a far cleaner option than electrical tape. It is nice if you are on a budget and can't afford nice sleeving. Cheap sleeving is horrible. I've been there, and I'd take dyed cables every time.
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this is awesome! I would never have thought that would look good, thanks for the pic and the idea!

did you just put the dye in a cup and dip the cables in it?
 
It is also worth noting that there are different variants of electrical tape. The ones designed to weather constant temperature changes are more expensive, however.

I will say that removing electrical tape generally calls for goo gone in the cleanup though.

You can also buy electrical "tape" without the adhesive.
 
Nightrainsrt4 said:
$2 bottle of RIT Dye would be a far cleaner option than electrical tape. It is nice if you are on a budget and can't afford nice sleeving. Cheap sleeving is horrible. I've been there, and I'd take dyed cables every time.

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This is ingenious.:p
What a great idea.
How do you apply the dye? swab? soak? dump?
 
magoo said:
I think you took my post the wrong way.....I was not commenting on your cabeling picture, which is just fine...........I was refering to the electrical tape vomit below it in the second picture......
Sorry if you thought I was knocking your work, couldn't be farther from the truth.:p

I could give a shit about the stickmen.:eek:

Have you ever compared the quality of the stuff that comes out of MDPC-X versus any other shop?:rolleyes:

MDPC-X sleeve, pins, connectors, you name it is miles ahead of anything you can buy from ANY shop in the US; and I have tried to find as good here, it doesn't exist.
It's easier to work with and you can tell the difference. The cost is very much the same as anything in the US, the shipping is what makes it tough.

I have a couple friends who like the stuff as well and we buy in volume and split the shipping costs.
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no worries :)
I already think I'm OCD about my computer, probably can't be healthy to take it any further.
 
nobody_here said:
You seriously just took exception to a little language on an Internet forum board? Grow Up indeed. I didn't insult you, I put things in perspective. If we were a group of strangers standing around discussing the topic and someone said shit while explaining something, would you seriously look at the guy and ask him to "tone down his language"? Hell no you wouldn't, this is no different. If you can't handle life, don't go out in public.
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You told me to "grow a pair" that's a insult, There are multiple uses of the work shit the way you used it is different than some one saying " man i need to take a shit" or "This shit is fantastic". If we where a group of strangers and said "all the people telling you it makes a mess aren't making that shit up....go ahead bro....." They would have a problem.

No the way you used it was to curse at me, Also im not your "bro". Keep this up you just keep going off topic trying to argue.
 
I think electrical tape is perhaps the poorest choice for sleeving your cables. I hope those easily offended like my shitty response.
 
no seriously, he asked what we thought about electrical tape as a sleeving option, and that is my opinion, it's a terrible idea when given the other options.....which is what myself and many others tried to tell him from the get go before all the butthurt started
 
nobody_here said:
no seriously, he asked what we thought about electrical tape as a sleeving option, and that is my opinion, it's a terrible idea when given the other options.....which is what myself and many others tried to tell him from the get go before all the butthurt started
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I was talking about "I hope those easily offended like my shitty response. " I know that's aimed at me. Please let us stop with all of the thread crapping and allow me to say that if me using electrical tape and defending my choice offends you im sorry, Can we please stop now?
 
High_Boost said:
this is awesome! I would never have thought that would look good, thanks for the pic and the idea!

did you just put the dye in a cup and dip the cables in it?
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magoo said:
This is ingenious.:p
What a great idea.
How do you apply the dye? swab? soak? dump?
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I mixed the bottle of dye with some water and placed it in a large pot on the stove just below boiling. I don't know if it is okay to use the pot for food after, so I used a cheap old pot. For the modular cables and sata cables I just tossed them in and mixed them around for a bit, being careful not to leave them in too long as the heat can warp the connectors and such. Then I took them out and rinsed them in the sink. Be careful, as the dye will stain just about anything. I have a stainless sink which worked great, but I don't know if the dye would stain a porcelain sink. Watch out for vinyl flooring, your clothes, etc. I let them dry in front of a fan for ~24 hours to make sure any water drops were long gone before using the power supply.

For the non-modular portion of the power supply, I wrapped the power supply in a towel, then put it in a large zip lock back with the cables poking out. Then I held the PSU while the cables dipped in the water as close to the PSU as I could get without getting the PSU/bag wet. Then I rinsed, and did the same drying process above. I then wrapped the small non dyed portion in good quality electrical tape. In my case it isn't seen, so it wasn't a big deal to use it for that few inch section.

I didn't bother to dye the heatsink cable, as I wasn't planning to use it for long. For the picture, I wrapped it carefully in electrical tape and, as you can tell, it looks like crap compared to the dyed cables.

The power supply has been working perfectly fine 24/7 for more than two years now. I hold no responsibility for anyone blowing up their PSU, or any violence caused by an angry spouse/mother/etc when she see's you've gotten black dye drops all over your entire kitchen.

n3ckcutta said:
http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?p=278264

Here is a thread I found using the RIT dye stuff. I might have to try this out just to see if I can successfully get it done.
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Yup, that would be my thread at TBCS.
 
...haha so i guess electrical tape is not a good idea?

That dye idea looks great, and for anyone that is planning just to do black sleeving, the dye is probably better.

So rinising the connectors shouldn't harm anything?

Or soaking the connectors in dye?

I would love to jump right in, but the process kind of scares me.
 
nobody_here said:
I think electrical tape is perhaps the poorest choice for sleeving your cables. I hope those easily offended like my shitty response.
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Apparently you've never used masking tape to do this, lol. I have, and can honestly say NEVER to do that XD. It ends up 10x worse than the electrical tape idea, lol.

On a side note, would the RIT dye work to dye a faceplate or other plastic pc case pieces as well? ODD bezels and such even? Thanks, and this is a funny thread, with all the machismo going on, lol.
 
PM_DMNKLR said:
Apparently you've never used masking tape to do this, lol. I have, and can honestly say NEVER to do that XD. It ends up 10x worse than the electrical tape idea, lol.

On a side note, would the RIT dye work to dye a faceplate or other plastic pc case pieces as well? ODD bezels and such even? Thanks, and this is a funny thread, with all the machismo going on, lol.
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Yes, masking tape would be at least as shitty a choice as electrical tape, although the adhesive on masking tape is usually much easier to clean up than what eventually seeps out of electrical tape.

Perhaps the reason it doesn't degrade so bad under the hood of a car has to do with the specific tape the auto maker uses, or could be because of the extreme hot and cold temps combined with gasoline vapors and constant barrage of water and dust and dirt and air in general.

The engine compartment of a car is nothing comparable to the constantly warmish inside of a computer case, which is the kind of environment where I usually see electrical tape turn into a goop ball. Hell, it happens if you keep a roll in your toolbox for a few years.
 
PM_DMNKLR said:
Apparently you've never used masking tape to do this, lol. I have, and can honestly say NEVER to do that XD. It ends up 10x worse than the electrical tape idea, lol.

On a side note, would the RIT dye work to dye a faceplate or other plastic pc case pieces as well? ODD bezels and such even? Thanks, and this is a funny thread, with all the machismo going on, lol.
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That's a good idea/suggestion. I bet it might depend on the porosity of the plastic??? ie cable wire versus hard plastic, but it would be cool if it worked as well.

My only othere question : if you bend your RIT dyed cables severly or say re-do your cabling, will the dye crack where the wire cables are bent??
 
magoo said:
That's a good idea/suggestion. I bet it might depend on the porosity of the plastic??? ie cable wire versus hard plastic, but it would be cool if it worked as well.

My only othere question : if you bend your RIT dyed cables severly or say re-do your cabling, will the dye crack where the wire cables are bent??
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The acid dye used in Rit and Dylon isn't like paint, it won't crack. It's chemically bonded to the inside structure of the wire insulation. You're right to use the term porous, I don't think harder plastics will take the dye very well.
 
The dye won't bond to all plastics. Some plastics you can just put in the room temperature dye and it will bond, while others you can coax by applying heat to the dye.

I've had success with some plastics that wouldn't take the dye at room temp, but came out perfectly after heating to near boil. Others, I've kept too long in the heated dye and the plastic overheats and warps. And others still, where the black dye doesn't bond completely and you get a tan/brown-ish color. It's trial and error, but when it does work, it is a very nice compromise for only $2 plus your time.

As for the connectors, the connectors on that psu were red, and took to the black dye very well. Some of the sata cables and molex extensions I used were tossed in very quickly after the power supply. I didn't leave them as long, so some of them have a bit of a purplish hue to them, as you might be able to see in the picture. Had I put them back in the dye for a bit longer, they would have been "pure" black like the rest of the cables.
 
Yeah, the connectors are made of nylon-6,6 which is exactly what the Rit dye was developed for - it's the same material as nylon stockings.
 
nobody_here said:
Yes, masking tape would be at least as shitty a choice as electrical tape, although the adhesive on masking tape is usually much easier to clean up than what eventually seeps out of electrical tape.
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I can say from experience that it's far worse, lol. Cleaning up electrical tape residue, after a few years, is far easier and less problematic than masking tape residue. Been there, done that, will NEVER do it again, lol.

If anyone would use electrical tape, as it was suggested before, get the premium stuff, such as automotive grade. You won't regret it. The cheap stuff just plain sucks for inside a pc, especially with contaminants such as dust and human/animal hair.
 
xblindvisionx said:
It should be fine. I've used electrical tape for cable management and they held up fine.
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mannyman said:
You sir have been using cheap tape, I did this to my old antec TPT 430 using 3M super 33 and after 5 years it still is as tight and nice as ever, And it bundles the cables extra tight and looks decent.
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mannyman said:
When I get home from work ill take a picture of my old antec for you if you would like.
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Either of you two who were arguing for using electrical tape going to show some photos? Because until then I think we're all imagining that your PSUs look like this:

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WiSK said:
Either of you two who were arguing for using electrical tape going to show some photos? Because until then I think we're all imagining that your PSUs look like this:

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I will when I get home. Some time around 5
 
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