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Six-Core Skylake??

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Just curious if there will be a six-core Skylake like the 5820K? I've looked around but can't seem to find a definitive answer.
 
Skylake, no. Skylake-E most likely, but it probably won't be out until late next year or 2017.
 
Not until Skylake-E, assuming Intel plans to replace Broadwell-E with such a chip.
 
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That should be rather obvious. They have different TDPs, and different numbers of PCIe lanes, and different numbers of memory channels.
 
Trimlock said:
Yes.

Also I will be waiting for Skylake E, unless Broadwell E gets released with DMI 3.0.
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Won't happen unless they replace X99. So Broadwell-E seems more likely unless they want to bring out Skylake-E on a brand new chipset. That wouldn't be in keeping within their normal pattern for the HEDT market segment. If Intel goes that route I think we will see an unusually long gap between processor releases for the HEDT platform.

In my opinion that seems unlikely. DMI 3.0 isn't as important on that platform because of the much greater number of PCIe lanes that don't need to go through the PCH. No one gives a shit about SATA Express. For M.2 RAID, it's nice but if handled like it is on Z170 it won't be enough as the DMI 3.0 bandwidth isn't sufficient for multiple drive RAID arrays anyway. DMI 3.0 is essentially PCIe x4 on the back end so it can only support a maximum of 40GB/s. That's it. So a single drive taking 32GB/s thanks to an x4 M.2 implementation is one thing. RAID'ing two of them together basically means you won't get efficient scaling out of the second drive. A third drive would pretty much be useless on Z170. Legitreviews has an article about testing this very concept and they ran into what I knew was going to be a problem since I was first briefed on Z170 Express and Skylake.

Intel let both X58 and X79 languish in obsolescence for a long time despite lacking in more modern connectivity options. I don't see that changing no matter how much I want it to.
 
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Dan - You are always to the rescue to burst my dream bubble! By the time DMI 3.0 hits the E series I'll probably be off of SATA reliance anyways.

Of course if Broadwell E gives me enough reasons to upgrade, I will. Its not like I'm super desperate to move up just yet.
 
In my mind, the likelyhood of Intel releasing a 6-core mainstream chip is damn near impossible. Unless Intel get a bit of competition, they are just going to coast along like they have been. The E-series chips are really just server/workstation chips that get unlocked to move a bit more silicon. In truth the 2011-3 socket could support up to 18 cores, but Intel don't release a consumer version of those chips, in fact Intel don't even release a chip with half those cores. Intel have no issues moving the high-end silicon, so no urgency is present to increase the consumer-base for those chips.
 
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In my mind, the likelyhood of Intel releasing a 6-core mainstream chip is damn near impossible. Unless Intel get a bit of competition, they are just going to coast along like they have been. The E-series chips are really just server/workstation chips that get unlocked to move a bit more silicon. In truth the 2011-3 socket could support up to 18 cores, but Intel don't release a consumer version of those chips, in fact Intel don't even release a chip with half those cores. Intel have no issues moving the high-end silicon, so no urgency is present to increase the consumer-base for those chips.
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On the consumer side, we don't have jack shit that can leverage those CPUs. It would quickly be dismissed as a bust for gaming and consumer use in reviews. They don't clock as high as a 5960X and would be deemed inferior for desktop use and anyone who said that would be right the way things are today. A few people would buy an 18c/36t CPU if it were made available at a reasonable price but Intel currently enjoys the margin they have on those chips. They would never sell at such prices in the consumer space. They don't move that many 5960X's as it is which cost a bit more than a third of what an Xeon E5-2699 v3 costs.
 
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On the consumer side, we don't have jack shit that can leverage those CPUs. It would quickly be dismissed as a bust for gaming and consumer use in reviews. They don't clock as high as a 5960X and would be deemed inferior for desktop use and anyone who said that would be right the way things are today. A few people would buy an 18c/36t CPU if it were made available at a reasonable price but Intel currently enjoys the margin they have on those chips. They would never sell at such prices in the consumer space. They don't move that many 5960X's as it is which cost a bit more than a third of what an Xeon E5-2699 v3 costs.
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Intel literally threw us power users a bone with the 980x. That chip popped out of no-where when it came to the scene. The X-58 playform lasted me almost 4 years before I moved onto the 5960x. There were rumors about a 12c/24t CPU last year at some point after an Intel engineer tweeted about it being on the X-99 platform. But alas, our hopes were dashed again because Intel has no real competition in the CPU/x86 arena.
 
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