Simple Apple Rant

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Jonesyy

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Love Apple products. Well built, high quality... the problem? The little things.

Came home for the week happy as Larry (or whoever is happy) and tried to add a new lush playlist iMade and update my apps. 'This iPhone is synced to another Library'...

But I'm logged into the same amount!? And I'm on my Macbook Pro instead of my Mac Pro! SO WHAT.

Sorry. Just fancied a lil rant. Flame me all you like. It is these small things that sometimes make me appreciate the freedom of Windows. :/

On a side: Can anybody offer me a go around to helping me get this playlist onto my iPhone from here?
 
Jonesyy said:
Came home for the week happy as Larry (or whoever is happy) and tried to add a new lush playlist iMade and update my apps. 'This iPhone is synced to another Library'...

But I'm logged into the same amount!? And I'm on my Macbook Pro instead of my Mac Pro! SO WHAT.

Sorry. Just fancied a lil rant. Flame me all you like. It is these small things that sometimes make me appreciate the freedom of Windows. :/
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This isn't an Apple/OS X vs Windows thing, this is an RIAA vs You thing. The "one iDevice syncs to one iTunes library" restriction is imposed by the record and movie industries on Apple as a condition of content licensing as a way of restricting piracy.
 
Terpfen said:
This isn't an Apple/OS X vs Windows thing, this is an RIAA vs You thing. The "one iDevice syncs to one iTunes library" restriction is imposed by the record and movie industries on Apple as a condition of content licensing as a way of restricting piracy.
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not entirely true... i know, with Zune marketplace, it was X many devices to one account, which includes PCs, phones, music players. the downside is you're also limited to a certain number of downloads of each song you paid for, regardless of device, so, you better not accidentally delete anything
 
OniFactor said:
not entirely true... i know, with Zune marketplace, it was X many devices to one account, which includes PCs, phones, music players. the downside is you're also limited to a certain number of downloads of each song you paid for, regardless of device, so, you better not accidentally delete anything
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Yes, it's entirely true. You're writing this under the conception that the record and movie companies give the same deals to everyone. THAT is the falsehood.
 
This thread is a testament to why I no longer buy, or even rent movies.
Fuck the RIAA/MPAA. They went out of their way to make life extremely difficult for me as an honest consumer, so I can be something else entirely.
 
Terpfen said:
Yes, it's entirely true. You're writing this under the conception that the record and movie companies give the same deals to everyone. THAT is the falsehood.
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your point is my point. Microsoft negotiated that they can provide a different service than what iTunes does, with the companies, not that the RIAA/MPAA locked it down to 1 song per account per device per user per computer. Apple could very well try to negotiate better contracts with the different companies, but haven't.
 
What evidence can you offer to back up your claim that Apple hasn't tried to renegotiate?
 
OniFactor said:
your point is my point. Microsoft negotiated that they can provide a different service than what iTunes does, with the companies, not that the RIAA/MPAA locked it down to 1 song per account per device per user per computer. Apple could very well try to negotiate better contracts with the different companies, but haven't.
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Funny, my entire iTunes Store purchase library is completely DRM free... Which iTunes do you shop with?
 
OniFactor said:
Apple could very well try to negotiate better contracts with the different companies, but haven't.
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Because that whole "let's kill DRM in the iTunes Store" thing wasn't the result of a renegotiation. Okay.
 
Most stuff in Apple's store is DRM-free.

Apple could very well see "Ahh, matching iTunes User libraries, same device, it's OK to sync this" and they don't do it. There's nothing preventing Apple from writing more intelligent software.

Not that Zune is immune to this, either.

The bottom line is that media should be tied to the USER, not the device. Microsoft/Apple/Google/Whatever should be able to verify said music against the user's account and allow the sync that way.

The only issue I see with this is people who give someone their account info and share it that way, but I can think of many things you could do to prevent that.
 
Epicness said:
Most stuff in Apple's store is DRM-free.
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Yes, after Steve Jobs convinced the record companies to drop it. This was the result of renegotiation, which OniFactor stated Apple is not doing.

The bottom line is that media should be tied to the USER, not the device.
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Agreed. Now go convince the RIAA and MPAA.
 
Bloomberg just reported on 6/27 that Apple is in the middle of a complete iTunes overhaul. Perhaps we'll see some changes in this regard.

Regardless, the comments were correct. The situation that we have now is the result of content holder agreements. Sure, there have been some vast improvements along the way on the music side. However, the video side is still locked down with DRM, etc.. The fact that iTunes became such a huge hub for everything has likely made it pretty difficult to enact much flexibility in the sync front.
 
DRM is a limitation put in place by the MPAA and RIAA. that is who they negotiated with, to remove that. the contracts they (Apple) have with Fox, Universal, Paramount, Sony, Columbia, Atlantic.. those agreements are what stipulates what devices and computers and accounts are allowed, for downloads of media, DRM or not. and Apple is happy with their status quo. i'm not saying it's a bad thing. all apple has ever actively negotiated is the adding of different houses/labels, to their library, with their standard 1 download per purchase contract. now, i refer you again, to the zune market, since it's what i'm more familiar with. 1 purchase of a song entitles me to download it 5 times. whether it's on 1 computer, 5 times, or 2 computers, 2 devices, and 1 phone does not matter. transfer of the song from a computer to a device for playback does not count as a download. this is all i'm referring to, is the transfer from the market, to the end user. Apple has never tried to change that.
 
Movies/TV Shows/Music Videos not withstanding, why don't you just use icloud?

It automatically downloads everything to every device anyway.
 
OP makes post.
Post generates discussion that point out flaw.
Never hear from him again.

Story of the internet.
 
timtheenchantor said:
OP makes post.
Post generates discussion that point out flaw.
Never hear from him again.

Story of the internet.
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Bet he's just racking up posts.

Though for something like music and movies, aren't Google Music, Spotify, and Netflix better alternatives because you can access them from any device? Though you have to stream them from the servers...
 
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