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Shuttle or not?

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HI guys.....

:) Looking for a suggestion here. My father needs a new computer and I was thinking of getting a Shuttle XPC; they run (at least the gaming ones) on average around $1000.

Would I be better off building the whole thing or buying the Shuttle?
What about upgradability?

:)

Thanks.

emanuele
 
If you get a cheap case and a decent PSU along with a motherboard and HSF you can save around $200 over a SN25P. That said, I have a SN25P and it's great!
 
It would be far cheaper for you to build the system with the SN25P barebones than it would be to buy the whole system from Shuttle.
If you really want an SFF, I would look at getting yourself an Aspire X-Pack and a nice mATX 939 board. It would be far cheaper than something like an SN25P, and far roomier. :D
 
if it isnt urgent, you can wait for march when the new sn21g5 is supposed to come out, using the 6150/430 chipset. it's going to cost ~$300, which is a big difference over the sn25p, makes it totally worth it. (this info from the workers at shuttle over at sfftech :))

if you dont want to wait, though, i'd say just build one from scratch. ask your dad which case he likes better, the qpack or the sg-01 (the new evolution one that dworley posted pics of the box of if u can find it), and get the foxconn 6150/430 mobo, currently the best. i know the biostar can oc higher, but 275 fsb is nothing to cough at, plus its consistent, unlike the biostar, and has the 430 southbridge (more options) instead of the 410.
 
Upgradability would be the qpack and build it yourself. Depending on what you wanna do with it you can make it around $1000.
 
Thank you so much guys!

:) Well, I'm still deciding on what to do guys.

I'm wondering about other options, full systems from ABS and such....to avoid all the hassle of building and trying out everything....
 
Avoid Shuttle if you're building it for someone else, they can be a hassle.
 
I have a SN25P, and I love it for what I built it for. However, keep in mind it isn't the most expandable system out there for SFF. It has one PCI-E 1x slot for expandibility. There isn't much available for that type slot right now (and who knows when?). The CPU, RAM and hard drives will still be upgradeable if needed, but you are also limited with them. They're for systems you know you won't be adding anything past initial build specs. The other SFFs might offer you a bit more expandibility in the future though.
 
I've had my Shuttle SN25P for over 6 months now. It's really impressed me thus far. Other than the crappy SATA cables I originally had and two 2gb Crucial Ballistix PC4000 kits dying on me, the system has ran flawlessly.

I originally purchased with a Venice 3200+ which I overclocked to 2.5ghz. Then I swapped that out for a AMD X2 3800+ overclocked to 2.4ghz. A modest overclock, but we're dealing with a SFF system here. I have two Seagate 7200x8 250gb SATA hard drives installed, along with a Pioneer DVR-109 DVD-RW burner, ATI X850 XT PE video card connected to two Dell 2001FP monitors. Overall it's been an impressive little machine. It's nice and quiet and has done everything I've asked of it. I recently began to run low on space so I ordered a 400gb Western Digital RE2 hard drive and a Vantec external SATA/USB 2.0 case. SFF, 900gb, 2gb memory, quiet and runs fairly cool. I build computers and work on servers for a living and while it does have it's quirks, it also has it's perks.

Personally I wish the case was just a 'tad' bit bigger for better hard drive cooling. That's my only gripe really.
 
Ihave owned Shuttles XPc's from their first models. I still have SN95G5 as my gaming/LAN party rig.

I've build fro other people many Shuttle XPC's.

I'm impressed with Shuttle build qualty and durability.

Also with their eraly models BIOS stability. My first Shuttle was first mainboard in my life that I wasn't needing any BIOS upgrades ever. Before it I was shure it's not posbible that BIOS can be bug free. Now days they have so many models and AMD and Intel come with so many new CPU's that You are goig to need BIOS upgrades atleast to support new CPU's.


On other hand You can make also great quality SFF with Silverstone SFF case and ASUS mini ATX mobo and use Zalman cooler and have great result. You might save some money.
You can save more money going no name case and cheeper mobo. But then it's not so good as Shuttle XPC.




MD
 
How bad are the problems with the SN25 and SN26 is there anyone who hasn't had any problems with these models?
 
I believe the cable problem has been fixed - that was the only real problem I had with my early SN25P. I'm coming up on 7 months of 24/7 service and it's running like a champ using the latest "Y" bios. I've built MANY systems and have spent a lot of cash on them over the years. For it's size, noise output, heat output and overall performance the SN25P is an excellent machine. I have the system shown in my SIG (some changes) but it gets turned on like once every 6 weeks to grab some files. I bought the SN25P to be a secondary system, but it ended up being my primary and I use the crap out of it. Now some people have had thier share of problems, but I'm not one of them. Again I'm running an X2 3800+ (overclocked to 2.4ghz - 240x10), 2gb G.Skill PC4000 Memory (DDR480), 2x250gb Segates and 1x400gb Western Digital RE2 SATA-External with no problems. My OS is WinXP X64.
 
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