Should they stop?

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AaronP

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Should nVidia and ATi stop releasing Video cards for the moment and work on getting their cards back down to reasonable temperatures without a HUGE noisy fan? I miss the days when if you had a Fan on your GPU you had a very hot card (My Voodoo 3 was passive, and it was the shit).

I remember making fun of the 5000 series of cards cause they had 2 slot coolers and my 9800Pro, which ran without any hitches on stock cooling, only had 1 slot and pwned the 5900.
 
at one time cpu's had passive coolers. do you really want them to stop and work on it till they gat a cooler like a p3 socket? (very low noise and small fan with the heatsink actually being cool to the touch)
 
FalconSS said:
at one time cpu's had passive coolers. do you really want them to stop and work on it till they gat a cooler like a p3 socket? (very low noise and small fan with the heatsink actually being cool to the touch)
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My past 3 CPU's have idle'd at 30-32C with stock cooling. I would do a certain thing to a certain rep if my X800GTO2 did that.
 
Leon2ky said:
Should nVidia and ATi stop releasing Video cards for the moment and work on getting their cards back down to reasonable temperatures without a HUGE noisy fan? I miss the days when if you had a Fan on your GPU you had a very hot card (My Voodoo 3 was passive, and it was the shit).

I remember making fun of the 5000 series of cards cause they had 2 slot coolers and my 9800Pro, which ran without any hitches on stock cooling, only had 1 slot and pwned the 5900.
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I don't think that possible because the more power thats running through your card to run the more intensive processor/ram, the hotter it is going to run. Your 9800 is half the power of an x1800 so the heat output on each is going to be significantly different. It would be like trying to use the same cooling solution for a geo metro and a semi.

I think mabye they could make it a little better than they have it now, but honestly air is never going to be a quiet solution. You have to move a lot of air to cool something, especially something running at 130 degrees. If the noise is that big a of a problem, get watercooling! Cooler and quieter.
 
i'll second brent on that...

just wait till we have organic computing too...

the thought of it is making me drool ;)
 
If anything that they should do, is to release only one generation of cards per year. Number one, w/the shorter cycle, by the time they get all of their announced products finally out, they are already announcing their next generation of products, and two, it allows the drivers to mature better,

One perfect example of that was w/the ATI 9800 video card that was sold unopposed for over a year. Longer, if you include the ATI 9700. The 9800 was just a tweaked up 9700. That's when Nvidia was having problems w/their 5000 series.

Nvidia seems to want to follow the every 6 month rule, while w/ATI, it's closer to a year.

It does appear though, that Nvidia learned a lesson w/their 5000 series, such that, now they don't do as big a jump, technology wise, w/each generation. In other words, the 6800 and 7800 series are fairly close, technology wise, w/the 7800 being tweaked, as well as, having a faster clock, than the 6800.

I'm only guessing of course, but my bet is that the new up coming Nvidia GPU, about to be releaesed, is going to be a totally new generation of technology, w/it's replacement coming out in say late summer, which will be nothing more than a tweaked up, and faster clock wise version of it.
 
They do already only release one generation a year.

The next generation is always a year apart from the last one, it's just that in-between they release refreshes of that generation.
 
Brent_Justice said:
They do already only release one generation a year.

The next generation is always a year apart from the last one, it's just that in-between they release refreshes of that generation.
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In the past, Nvidia was trying to come out w/a new generation every six months. That, again, failed w/the 5000 series.

The Nvidia 7800 GTX series physically came out in June or July of 2005, the next generation, according to rumors, if true, is expected in late January, early Feburary of this year. We're talking a six to seven months.
 
I wish both would wait 18 months between new archetecture as it will result in more improvements. Both companies are so consumed with trying to push the products out faster to "one up" the competition, it leads to less features, more clocks/mem speed.
 
R1ckCa1n said:
I wish both would wait 18 months between new archetecture as it will result in more improvements. Both companies are so consumed with trying to push the products out faster to "one up" the competition, it leads to less features, more clocks/mem speed.
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It also would allow the game software industry to catch up w/the hardware technology.
 
It's more about economics than anything, imho.. Once a particular gpu falls below a certain pricepoint, or the nuber that they are selling falls below a certain point, it is time to bring out the next big thing.. Of course maketing one upmanship comes into play as well..
We are going to have to live with it, because they are going to release a new gpu as often as it takes to keep sales up and of course to satisfy the ever present human desire to be the best..
 
GoHack said:
In the past, Nvidia was trying to come out w/a new generation every six months. That, again, failed w/the 5000 series.

The Nvidia 7800 GTX series physically came out in June or July of 2005, the next generation, according to rumors, if true, is expected in late January, early Feburary of this year. We're talking a six to seven months.
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You're referring to the G71, which isn't the next generation, but a refresh. It's not due until March, either.

The proper next-gen update, the G80 series, won't be out until the summer, which fits the 1 year timeline.
 
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