should I get a higher processor and more ram?

look I know Amd is the choice for gaming. But tell that to dell. If they had an amd i would take it i na heart beat.Building or buying a system will be more expessive then what im spending now with the currect specs I want.
 
Building or buying a system will be more expessive then what im spending now with the currect specs I want.
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Your joking right? Building and buying from Monarch would both be a lot cheaper.
 
KoolDrew said:
Your joking right? Building and buying from Monarch would both be a lot cheaper.
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I checked it out with the same exact specs and better case yes.


without monitor mine costs 2300
 
Why the same exact specs? With that budget you could get a Athlon 64 4000+ that would be a lot faster. Also there is no real-world performance gain from using RAID-0
 
would this system with monitor from abspc be better?

Thermaltake Tsunami with Side Window (Black - Aluminum) (Item#ABS11133132) 1 Standard
SAMSUNG SyncMaster 997DF-T/T 19" DynaFlat CRT Monitor -RETAIL (Item#ABS24001166) 1 $197.8
Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2 (For Bundle with System Use ONLY!) - OEM (Item#ABS37110025) 1 $62
Antec 550W Power Supply For TRUE550 EPS12V (Item#ABS17103918) 1 Standard
ASUS "A8N-SLI Deluxe" NVIDIA nForce4 Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL (Item#ABS13131517) 1 Standard
AMD Athlon 64 3800+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - OEM
(Item#ABS19103530) 1 $104
Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 Copper Heatsink and Fan for AMD Athlon 64 FX and Opteron (Item#ABS35106036) 1 Standard
CORSAIR XMS, Xtra-Low Latency 184-Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200, Model TWINX1024-3200XL (Item#ABS20145522) 1 Standard
2 nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT Video Cards, 256MB GDDR3, Dual DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express (Item#ABS14130215) 2 pieces $380
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 with 1394 (Item#ABS29102162) 1 $95
Seagate 160GB Barracuda 7200.7 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3160827AS, OEM (Item#ABS22148034) 1 Standard
Seagate 160GB Barracuda 7200.7 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3160827AS, OEM (Item#ABS22148034) 1 $95
RAID 0 Striped for SATA Hard Drives - Increase Performance(For two same size Hard Drive only) (Item#ABS88101211) 1 $2
SONY Black 16X DVD-ROM Drive, Model DDU1615/B2s, OEM (Item#ABS27101131) 1 Standard
Sony Black Internal 16X DVD+/-R DVD Burner support Dual Layer, Model DW-D26A BLK, OEM (Item#ABS27131251) 1 Standard
Mitsumi Combo Flash/FD Drive (Black), MS, CF MMC,SD,SM, MD Reader/Writer Model FA404A/404M BLK (Item#ABS21104104) 1 $16.5
Free Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004 (Item#ABS37110020) 1 $0
Free Microsoft Rise of Nations - PC Game (Item#ABS37110021) 1 $0
Electronic Arts ABS Game Bundle (Item#ABS32130179) 1 $0
Microsoft Works Suite 2005 (For System Bundle Use ONLY!) - OEM (Item#ABS37110027) 1 $0
Microsoft Works 7.0 (Item#ABS37110005) 1 $0
2Net 1 Year 24/7 Tech Support & Onsite Service | (Concurrent with Standard Warranty) (Item#ABS88101201) 1 Standard
ABS Mouse Pad 8" x 9" x 6" - Blue (Item#ABS17114110) 1 Standard
ABS Computer System Binder for Organizing Drivers and Manuals (Item#ABS57101101) 1 Standard
FREE ABS Black Tee-Shirt - Size: XLarge with "ABS" Logo in the Front. (Item#ABS00999227) 1 Standard


cost 2766.00 shipped
 
Here. I went and took the time to make a configuration on Monarch. This would be much better then that Dell.

Antec Performance One P160 case
Enermax EG565P-FMA 535w PSU
Asus A8N-SLI
AMD Athlon 64 4000+
Thermal Grease
AMD Certified heatsink
1GB Corsair RAM
74GB Raptor
Samsung 160GB
NEC 3520A
Floppy
2x eVGA 6800GT's in SLI
Windows XP Home
ViewSonic 19" G90F
Logitech Elite keyboard
Logitech MX518
Logitech X-530
Total - $2587.23

That is just a little more expensive but would be a hell of a lot faster. That is with a lot of added stuff that you didn't mention and it has two 6800GT's. That would perform a lot better.

Of course you can change this configuration, but just to give you a general idea of what you can get for the price.
 
Brucee said:
would this system with monitor from abspc be better?

Thermaltake Tsunami with Side Window (Black - Aluminum) (Item#ABS11133132) 1 Standard
SAMSUNG SyncMaster 997DF-T/T 19" DynaFlat CRT Monitor -RETAIL (Item#ABS24001166) 1 $197.8
Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2 (For Bundle with System Use ONLY!) - OEM (Item#ABS37110025) 1 $62
Antec 550W Power Supply For TRUE550 EPS12V (Item#ABS17103918) 1 Standard
ASUS "A8N-SLI Deluxe" NVIDIA nForce4 Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL (Item#ABS13131517) 1 Standard
AMD Athlon 64 3800+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - OEM
(Item#ABS19103530) 1 $104
Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 Copper Heatsink and Fan for AMD Athlon 64 FX and Opteron (Item#ABS35106036) 1 Standard
CORSAIR XMS, Xtra-Low Latency 184-Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200, Model TWINX1024-3200XL (Item#ABS20145522) 1 Standard
2 nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT Video Cards, 256MB GDDR3, Dual DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express (Item#ABS14130215) 2 pieces $380
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 with 1394 (Item#ABS29102162) 1 $95
Seagate 160GB Barracuda 7200.7 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3160827AS, OEM (Item#ABS22148034) 1 Standard
Seagate 160GB Barracuda 7200.7 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3160827AS, OEM (Item#ABS22148034) 1 $95
RAID 0 Striped for SATA Hard Drives - Increase Performance(For two same size Hard Drive only) (Item#ABS88101211) 1 $2
SONY Black 16X DVD-ROM Drive, Model DDU1615/B2s, OEM (Item#ABS27101131) 1 Standard
Sony Black Internal 16X DVD+/-R DVD Burner support Dual Layer, Model DW-D26A BLK, OEM (Item#ABS27131251) 1 Standard
Mitsumi Combo Flash/FD Drive (Black), MS, CF MMC,SD,SM, MD Reader/Writer Model FA404A/404M BLK (Item#ABS21104104) 1 $16.5
Free Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004 (Item#ABS37110020) 1 $0
Free Microsoft Rise of Nations - PC Game (Item#ABS37110021) 1 $0
Electronic Arts ABS Game Bundle (Item#ABS32130179) 1 $0
Microsoft Works Suite 2005 (For System Bundle Use ONLY!) - OEM (Item#ABS37110027) 1 $0
Microsoft Works 7.0 (Item#ABS37110005) 1 $0
2Net 1 Year 24/7 Tech Support & Onsite Service | (Concurrent with Standard Warranty) (Item#ABS88101201) 1 Standard
ABS Mouse Pad 8" x 9" x 6" - Blue (Item#ABS17114110) 1 Standard
ABS Computer System Binder for Organizing Drivers and Manuals (Item#ABS57101101) 1 Standard
FREE ABS Black Tee-Shirt - Size: XLarge with "ABS" Logo in the Front. (Item#ABS00999227) 1 Standard


cost 2766.00 shipped
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thats so hard to read its not even funny or worth the time
 
Thermaltake Tsunami with Side Window Black - Aluminum

SAMSUNG SyncMaster 997DF-T/T 19" DynaFlat CRT Monitor

Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2

Antec 550W Power Supply

ASUS "A8N-SLI Deluxe" NVIDIA nForce4 Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939

AMD Athlon 64 3800+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor

Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 Copper Heatsink and Fan for AMD Athlon 64 FX and Opteron

CORSAIR XMS, Xtra-Low Latency 1 Gig

2 nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT Video Cards PCI-Express

Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1

Seagate 160GB Barracuda
Seagate 160GB Barracuda in raid 0


SONY Black 16X DVD-ROM Drive

Sony Black Internal 16X DVD+/-R DVD Burner


Ok I cleaned it up a bit , what do you think?
 
Overall my config is much better then that and cheaper. Also many people here will agree with me that Monarch is very good. Newegg, Zipzoomfly and Monarch are the three most popular. I can't believe you ahve never heard of them...
 
KoolDrew said:
Overall my config is much better then that and cheaper. Also many people here will agree with me that Monarch is very good. Newegg, Zipzoomfly and Monarch are the three most popular. I can't believe you ahve never heard of them...
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well I like abspc
 
Thermaltake Tsunami with Side Window Black - Aluminum

SAMSUNG SyncMaster 997DF-T/T 19" DynaFlat CRT Monitor

Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2

Antec 550W Power Supply

ASUS "A8N-SLI Deluxe" NVIDIA nForce4 Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939

AMD Athlon 64 3800+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor

Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 Copper Heatsink and Fan for AMD Athlon 64 FX and Opteron

CORSAIR XMS, Xtra-Low Latency 1 Gig

2 nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT Video Cards PCI-Express

Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1

Seagate 160GB Barracuda
Seagate 160GB Barracuda in raid 0


SONY Black 16X DVD-ROM Drive

Sony Black Internal 16X DVD+/-R DVD Burner

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Ok the price of this dell with 19 inch crt is 2460 shipped.


here are specs:
Dell xps gen 4
P4 3.6 with HT
1 Gig of ram
148 raptors raid 0
160gb storage har drive
X850 Xt pe
16 dvd
16 dvd burner
Dell m993 19 inch


So out of these 2 im gone pick.
 
Why did you even post this topic if you are not going to listyen to people? My config is much better then both of those and just about everyone else who posted in this topic would probably agree. They would also agree that Monarch is very reliable.

If you want to get the best performance for your money go to Monarch.
 
KoolDrew said:
Why did you even post this topic if you are not going to listyen to people? My config is much better then both of those and just about everyone else who posted in this topic would probably agree. They would also agree that Monarch is very reliable.

If you want to get the best performance for your money go to Monarch.
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I listed to you and I said I don't like it. The question was I asked ONLY out of those 2. IF I want to buy from abs that is my choice. your choice was mon and I respect it but that's not what I was asking.
 
i like KoolDrew's PC.. they only thing i would do is get a 3800+ an screw the SLI shit. use that money on a sweet monitor. i have a viewsonic 90f, it's not the greatest
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That is what I would suggest too, but I was just trying to get soemthing similair to the Dell he chose which had a 19" CRT. I would get a nice 19" LCD or something. And instead of SLI get an X850XT.
 
KoolDrew said:
That is what I would suggest too, but I was just trying to get soemthing similair to the Dell he chose which had a 19" CRT. I would get a nice 19" LCD or something. And instead of SLI get an X850XT.
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true.. the OP is just going along with the hype.. (i.e. SLI == great).. but hey, what could you do..

I'll rather spend that $600 on a better sound setup :p
 
Calis said:
higher proc

there is really little need for more ram than a gig of ram
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I would say go with the higher CPU. One gig of RAM will run just fine.
 
So am I better to go with a x850xt or 6800 gt sli? which will perform more smoother?

I play hl2,d3, far cry,bf
 
Brucee said:
So am I better to go with a x850xt or 6800 gt sli? which will perform more smoother?

I play hl2,d3, far cry,bf
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2 6800GT's in SLI would perform better, but the X850XT is a great card anyway. I would go with mjz_5's suggestion. Gow tih a single X850XT and spend money on a good LCD and other things.
 
should I get the amd 3500 maybe instead of the amd 3800. IS there a huge performace gap there?
 
this is what i would personally go with:

amd 64 3500+
MSI K8N Neo4-F (non SLI)
nVidia 6800GT 256 MB
Antec case with 430 watt PS
1 = gig(2x512) Corsair ram
1 = 74 raptor (system and games)
1 = large seagate drive for storage
NEC ND3520 DVD writer
Dell 2005FP 20in Wide Flat Panel Monitor
creative audigy 2 ZS oem soundcard (HDA Mystique card, but haven't tried it)

thats pretty much it, don't think i missed anything
 
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