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Should I flash to XTX (from XT)

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Fistandantilis

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OK so I checked the mem modules on my 1900XT, I think that they are the 1.1 nano ones, is there any way to tell for sure? also what kinds of risks are there for flashing this card to the XTX, is the ram speed the only difference between the xt and xtx? or are there othere things.

thanks
 
well theres core speed, core voltage, ram speed, ram voltage, ram timings .... and i think thats it.
 
from what i seen it was successful for many ppl. I am one of those that would just go for it. So i would say do the same.
 
It really isn't necessary. You are adding extra stress to an already hot video card for and extra 2 fps and you void your warranty.

Just my 2 cents!
 
I for one have saved the new Bios on hdd waiting for time when my card get slow. By then my warranty is most likely expired and the card not so hot in value. I flash it then and minimize the damage :)
 
solideliquid said:
Are you voiding the warranty if you use something like ATi Tool or CCC to OC?
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No, as the changes are applied in software. The card itself has not been altered in any way.
 
Sipster said:
It really isn't necessary. You are adding extra stress to an already hot video card for and extra 2 fps and you void your warranty.

Just my 2 cents!
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Thats a good point, I guess I will just leave it alone, thanks
 
Its not worth the risk in my opinion, because your simply not going to notice a difference. There is a difference between thinking you have the fastest card available and seeing that you do.
 
Coolmanluke said:
Its not worth the risk in my opinion, because your simply not going to notice a difference. There is a difference between thinking you have the fastest card available and seeing that you do.
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But if it works, then he technically does...

I know I noticed a difference overclocking my video card :)
 
Speaking from experience i would say not to flash it.
Mine was artifcating like crazy, and i know somebody else on the forums had the same experience.
It was however flashed using bbati bios on a sapphire card, and apparantly the other lad who had the same artifacting as me (like polka dot) said he flashed it with a sapphire one, and all is well. Ive not tried it myself.
Currently i have just reflashed to the original bios, and overclocked using overdrive.
At the end of the day your card is gonna reach a certain oc limit anyways, just go as high as you can, flashing to xtx bios is not gonna make that limit any higher.
 
OK is there any easy way to OC these cards. I have been on an nvidia card for a little over a year and I am so used to the autodetect OC fasion, I saw that CCC had something similar to this but it seems to take a long time to give results.
 
I reckon just bump the mem to 773 and the core to 650 (XTX settings) Play some games, if you get no artifacts either be happy that you have xtx speeds, as would be acheived through flashing, or bump it higher, and play some more until you see artifacting, then reduce it.
 
Slo Gun said:
Speaking from experience i would say not to flash it.
Mine was artifcating like crazy, and i know somebody else on the forums had the same experience.
It was however flashed using bbati bios on a sapphire card, and apparantly the other lad who had the same artifacting as me (like polka dot) said he flashed it with a sapphire one, and all is well. Ive not tried it myself.
Currently i have just reflashed to the original bios, and overclocked using overdrive.
At the end of the day your card is gonna reach a certain oc limit anyways, just go as high as you can, flashing to xtx bios is not gonna make that limit any higher.
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Since flashing will increase memory voltage and fiddle with the timings, the chances of overclocking passed his current limit is well feasible. I have been reading about people flashing their cards and gaining extra "oomph" out of it due to the extra power being supplied to the card, and have even heard this (and have experienced it) with my 5900 flashed to a 5950 Ultra.
 
That could be true, but what i have read, i dunno how reliable this is, but the x1900xt is supposed to have tighter memory timings than the xtx.
Also you dont need to flash the card to change the voltage.
In my experience the crad didnt take well to being flashed, but runs perfectly well at the higher clocks set manually.
 
Slo Gun said:
That could be true, but what i have read, i dunno how reliable this is, but the x1900xt is supposed to have tighter memory timings than the xtx.
Also you dont need to flash the card to change the voltage.
In my experience the crad didnt take well to being flashed, but runs perfectly well at the higher clocks set manually.
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I read the same thing, I just cant remember where though, oh well. I guess I am just going to leave it alone.
 
do you guys know if there is a bios editor for X1000 series cards?
 
Rhitick, did you try changing voltages and finding max overclock before you flashed? if so, did you still see improvement in overclocking the CORE? Mem probably did go up because of the timings.
 
Nah, I just went and did it. I had a spare video card laying around if it exploded.

The absolute highest I can clock the core on this card is 700 without 3dmark crashing. That is at 1.475v, i'm not entirely sure what the max "safe" voltage is on an xtx so I limit it to that.

I'm thinking of using a heat sink for the vregs and mosfets...and maybe a lap job just because that might be my problem.

EDIT: Also OCing the ram doesn't seem to do ANYTHING for this card...makes things worse but thats about it :p

I'm still plinking at it, this is a different monster then my old SLi 6600gts when it comes to overclocking.
 
I flashed... and ended up flashing back.

Really, I think I saw 10 fps MAX maybe 2-3 times and that wasn't avg that was a max. Avg. fps is probably nil to 3, depending.

Anyways, my comp would BSOD after about 5-6 hours of gaming and it never did that b4 the flash. So I flashed back and bingo, can game for 12 hours in a row again! I think it was just enough to push it over the edge.

Besides, before I'm gonna need the 2 fps I know I will get the urge to upgrade to octagon core x32 quad PCI-E 8400GTX(TX) Ultra PE.
 
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