Sharp 37 GP1U a gamer's screen!

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This screen's great!

This actually feels like a serious effort on a manufacturer to address gamers needs. The input lag is on part with my LG 24 inch screen roughly 1 frame or an avg 22-25ms. Further research on the net shows that while the side ports are the best, the rear ones with the signal processing are also in line with the vyper game mode ports.

Now for the little gripes that most people will hammer to the ends of the earth and try to convince people that it's beyond redemption.

The rear ports do some dynamic contrasting. While it was nearly on par speed wise, the "fade in/fade out" of blacks and brights made you feel like you were high, especially flipping through the menus of a game or in the case of my speed testing, some DDR.

Thankfully the range of the scaling can be narrowed to almost nothing, but in some scenario's it's good to keep on due to the fact it is an LCD and it will bleed somewhat if treated as a monitor.

HDMI doesn't pass through the output optical port. I was so close to cutting down on my wire cluttering, first the wii, then the PS2, both passed through to the receiver fine, then the PS3 comes along and I got no sound.

At default out of the box settings, this screen was "cartoony" bright... like something out of a disney happy nightmare movie... made the wii screen pretty wii licious, but it was over the top. Once brought down in nearly everything, it was fine.

At default, PS2 graphics look... well like ass. kinda reminds me of how the benq treats ps2 graphics, good but not good. My LG really makes the PS2 look horrid. This one was close, but on closer examination, once you put the PS2 to it's 4:3 AND cut down on the sharpness it looks exactly as it should. If you really crank down on the sharpness you can get some free ghetto AA! By default it's stretched, which further worsens a 480i image.

1080p mode though worked perfectly out of the box. It was the one thing I didn't have to mess with for settings. Played a bit of GT:HD, loaded up FF12 and saw everything worked great. Even surfing on the the [H] site forums looked just like my LG24.

The menu's options are a bit vague, but you can figure out most of them without much difficulty.

the side ports... well they're on the side AND you can see the stuff plugged in. That's also a complaint. Since I couldn't do a passthrough from the TV to the receiver, I had to use jumper audio cables to get the PS2 and Wii signals to the receiver which make the cables stick out more.

Overall, I finally found my gaming screen. I only wish it was bigger since based on that room's setup, a 60 inch would look amazing (good luck finding a gaming screen at 60 inches). I've just moved up the sofa so I'm about 6-7 ft from the screen.

EDIT: Newly discovered feature for those wanting to watch movies using a HTPC or laptop but are stuck at 10x7 with said device thru DVI/Analog issues: The Zoom view mode does a PERFECT 16:9 Widescreen view of a 10x7 portion of the screen where the letterbox movie would be. So unless I'm doing some really crazy HD content, I can still use my laptop attached to this screen and watch off it perfectly.
 
glad you like it. I recommended it over a Westinghouse 42" 1080p TX-42 to my uncle. I'm not sure whether he's decided yet but I think for his use as a computer monitor for business, console display, and HDTV, the Sharp is a better choice even though its smaller and more expensive.
 
What about the brand new LC-32GP3U?

It's only announced, not for sale yet.
Besides, theres not much of a difference with the GP1U. I think the main difference is that the GP3U has HDMI 1.3.
Wheeeee!
 
It's only announced, not for sale yet.
Besides, theres not much of a difference with the GP1U. I think the main difference is that the GP3U has HDMI 1.3.
Wheeeee!

Well, I hope the new release includes a working off switch for the dynamic contrast.

(Presumably it retains the superior, in terms of an LCD, native contrast ratio of 2000:1.)
 
"Sharp 37GP1U a gamers screen"
This screen's great !! ---- a serious effort to address gamers needs.
1080p mode worked perfectly out of the box. ....
Played a bit of GT:HD, loaded up FF12 and everything worked great...
Even surfing on the the [H] site forums looked just like my LG-24 ....
Overall, I finally found my Gaming screen ...
Owners 'Reviews' posted at Newegg.com agree with you. Almost all the 37GP1U owners there rate it "5 of 5".
I'm tempted to spring for one and Egg's price looks good. Thoughts?
 
Owners 'Reviews' posted at Newegg.com agree with you----most of the 37GP1U owners there rated it "5 out of 5".
I'm tempted to spring for one, and Egg's price looks good. Thoughts?

Buy one from BB. Try it out and if you like it take it back and buy from someone else cheaper.
 
I've been looking for a bigger LCD and the 32" GP1U could be it. How do regular apps look on these Sharp LCDs?
 
I hope they fix the dark color text like red/blue on the newer models.
 
I've been looking for a bigger LCD and the 32" GP1U could be it.
How do regular Apps look on these Sharp LCDs?
I'm writing this on the GP62U, the 'non-gamer' version of the 32" 1080P Sharp.
Using WinXP, set to ...Windows "Classic Style" / "High Contrast#2" / White Text-on-Black Screen / MS Sans Serif fonts / 120dpi.
I see no fuzzy text, no 'shifting' text-colors, no lousy colors, no muddy colors,
"1920x1080" Text is crisp, clear, sharp (I use no other rez). Its a pleasure to read n' write on this panel, for hours on end.
When gaming, at full 1080P rez, the scenery is beautiful, colors vibrant, details are sharp-as-razor (twin 7900GT video cards).
Responsiveness to keyboard & mouse commands (I'm not a serious "pro" gamer) seems to be very good, not sluggish.
While test-driving this nice 32" 1080P for 30 days, I'm also seriously looking at the 37" 1080P. Hope this helps. Good luck.
 
I've taken some pics of this screen with my Dell Latitude laptop as reference. Unless my dell LCD is suffering from the EXACT same input lag as the sharp, there is virtually no lag.

I will post them in a bit.

Will bring down my main rig with the GTX 8800 in it to test component out, HDMI, regular and vyper ports. Typing in right now using the laptop + sharp, the DVI + VGA cable is limited to 1024x768 resolution only. Too bad, I know the HDMI works with 1080p perfectly as I tried it the other day.

Also worth noting is that once you have the settings correct, the backlight bleed of the screen is VERY uniform and much less as compared to my old Viewsonic 20 inch or my LG 24 inch screen.
 
Here's a pic of my cars on the Sharp screen at 10x7 resolution using the DVI input.


Here's the reference photo used above so you can compare output of the screen vs the actual:


Now that I'm viewing this on my main PC, the color difference is blatently obvious... I need to trim down the blue's on the Sharp as it's got some really strong blue going on there.
edit: I've managed to tone down the blue a bit, it seems as though the so called 6500K is really like 10000K making the middle setting still higher than 6500K.... Setting it to the medium low + dropping the color to -5 and tint a bit more red biased fixed it up.
 
Here's a shot of both screens testing for input lag:


Another shot:


Camera is a Canon Powershot A550, I will test using my main rig a bit later as I'll be able to test VGA, Component and HDMI from the same source using my 8800 GTX
 
Thanx for the pics.
:D Just an observation, not a criticism :D....I judge 1080P TVs by looking at their 1080P pics.
 
My main rig can do 1080p perfectly with the screen, it's just a pain to unhook and carry downstairs. Behind the laptop is actually a PS3, which is one of the main reasons I got this TV. I played the GT Prologue video off the playstation store and my jaw dropped just how well this screen looks once finally setup properly. Also noting I'm drooling over that next GT game...
 
I'm writing this on the GP62U, the 'non-gamer' version of the 32" 1080P Sharp.
Using WinXP, set to ...Windows "Classic Style" / "High Contrast#2" / White Text-on-Black Screen / MS Sans Serif fonts / 120dpi.
I see no fuzzy text, no 'shifting' text-colors, no lousy colors, no muddy colors,
"1920x1080" Text is crisp, clear, sharp (I use no other rez). Its a pleasure to read n' write on this panel, for hours on end.
When gaming, at full 1080P rez, the scenery is beautiful, colors vibrant, details are sharp-as-razor (twin 7900GT video cards).
Responsiveness to keyboard & mouse commands (I'm not a serious "pro" gamer) seems to be very good, not sluggish.
While test-driving this nice 32" 1080P for 30 days, I'm also seriously looking at the 37" 1080P. Hope this helps. Good luck.
Thanks for the info! I'm gonna try to get the 32GP1U this week.
 
I'm using a time video made for video encoders.

I forgot where to download it, but I'm sure you can find one using google.

Also, I've finished taking shots using component, HDMI etc vs my sony 17 inch trinitron, the 19 inch is just WAY too damn heavy to lug around.

Will post a lot of shots on this... 1080p... gaming (TF2)

Suffice to say the range is between 0-20ms (Could be as high as 29, but all the timing pics show it's more a low 20's ms range since I took many 10ms or <10ms shots. Since 16.7ms is roughly 1 frame of lag, we're right there with the best of LCD monitor's for PC gaming use. I'd say based on feel though that it's actually faster than my LG 24 inch screen as that's captured with as high as 30 ms (could be as high as 39ms, but due to the nature of all the pics being mostly 10-20ms, I'd lean low 30's on the occasional blip).

I'd also like to note that clone 10x7 IS faster than dual 1080p/10x7CRT. The majority of the pics for the clone mode are <10ms or 10ms avg, for the 1080p native vs 10x7CRT pics, the majority are 10ms avg or 20ms avg pics. Subtle difference, but worth noting.

Here's the first of many CRT comparisons...

 
10 ms give or take


less than 10ms...


The previous were done in clone mode, so both displays are 10x7.

These are done at 1080p, the native resolution of the screen.

1080p vs 10x7 CRT 20ms!


10ms!


almost <10 ms...


desktop, note that the girl drawn in the middle is heavilly shadowed. It's actually a good test to show no significant crushing blacks on this screen. It looks detailed enough in person to compare it enough to my CRT screen...


One of the greatest Anime's of 2007... maybe all time!... also happens to be very colorful...


More Gurren Lagann...


FF13 demo mpeg 1080p


Some more strawberry lovin...


ichigo = strawberry... I think that's what they said aobut her hair some strawberry /champagne color...


Ghost in the Shell 2 Innocence 1080p... note the floor isn't crushed, it's my camera just not showing you what I see...


Most GitS


TF2!!!


2 Fort!!


Component testing...
 
I've got the 37" and I'm happy with it for gaming and it's good enough for normal use/web browsing but I'm keeping my 22" around for imaging/photography purposes. My Sharp has pretty heavily crushed blacks (maybe not just mine, I don't know) and they all have oversaturated reds.
 
I wouldn't recommend this as a monitor replacement if you are intent on photo editing, as my earlier pics showed, the colors are "off" to say the least, I mess with calibrating them but it's an utter nightmare trying to get 100% color accuracy. I've managed to cut down on the red oversaturation by really dialing back some of the color settings and pushing tint towards the green, since it seems both blue and red are really strong on this screen. For PC and gaming use, I'd recommend this screen!
 
Can the colors: red, green, blue, plus some intermediate colors if I recall from an earlier set, still be adjusted individually?
 
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