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SG03 questions...

Does SATAcables.com have short, low-profile, left-angle SATA cables?
 
I believe they had them in either 8 or 20 inches. One was too short for me, the other was too long.

performance-pcs has 12" cables that I found to be perfect (although I have a RAID card so the length requirement is somewhat different for me).
 
satacables.com has 4, 5, 8, 9, 13, 18, 20 and longer sizes depending on the type of cable. They have the most complete selection, by far, that I found on the web. I needed some 4 and 8 inch, left angle (270 degree) low-profile cables for my P5Q-EM, GTX 260, SG01-F system and they were the only place I found them.

I got notification that the cables shipped today.
 
Where did you find more? Only places in the USA that I know carries left angles are Performance-PCs, SATACables, and Rainier PCs.
 
Performance PCs. SATA-cables didn't seem to have much although I was looking at a particular type in black, which they did not have. While I was looking for SATA cables, Performance PCs had a lot of selections I had to wade through to find what I needed.
 
Hehe. Didn't really have to browse their site much to find the left angle cables. Just go to the right side of their home page, put the pointer on:

Cables -> SATA Cables -> SATA II Left Angle Data Cables
 
Well I was browsing around because I wanted a shorter right angle cable (for my hard drive I mounted in the floppy drive bay) and a cable for my DVD drive. Before they were all absurdly long red cables that I had but I wanted them to be black and as short as possible to make it as clean as possible.
 
This thread convinced me to finally order a SG-03, thanks for all the good info! I'll be running it with an overclocked Q6600 though, so I think I need more cooling than the NT-06 Lite or E can provide. I read over at Sudhian that someone managed to fit the Enzotech Extreme-X (~93mm) after removing the fan grill from his PSU. I'll try something similar as I already have a Noctua NH-C12P (91mm) in my current build. It'll be tight but I think it might fit.

If things get really crazy I might break out the dremel and grind down the edges of the Noctua, as it's raised to hold the fan in place. I don't want to get too ghetto yet though.
 
Glad that you're on board :-P

I am a real big fan of Silverstone after my experience with the SG03. I sorta liked the SG01 but it wasn't my thing.
 
IcedEmotion said:
This thread convinced me to finally order a SG-03, thanks for all the good info! I'll be running it with an overclocked Q6600 though, so I think I need more cooling than the NT-06 Lite or E can provide. I read over at Sudhian that someone managed to fit the Enzotech Extreme-X (~93mm) after removing the fan grill from his PSU. I'll try something similar as I already have a Noctua NH-C12P (91mm) in my current build. It'll be tight but I think it might fit.
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I know you're keen on the idea, but if it was me, I'd just get a different case that can fit a full-height cooler. Anything you do will take lots of tweaking and effort (not to mention cash), and at the end of the day, you won't even be halfway to closing the difference to one of the big 120mm tower heatsinks.
 
Calroth said:
I know you're keen on the idea, but if it was me, I'd just get a different case that can fit a full-height cooler. Anything you do will take lots of tweaking and effort (not to mention cash), and at the end of the day, you won't even be halfway to closing the difference to one of the big 120mm tower heatsinks.
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Thanks for the warning, but I already have the dremel, power supply, the heatsink, and the processor in my other SFF computer. The reason I'm going with the SG-03 is that the Antec NSK3480 isn't exactly lan party ready due to its weight and lack of bling. The only thing I'm changing out is the case, so it's not costing me much. I'll try it out with the Noctua and see, if it looks like it'll fit without the fan grill and a bit of grinding that's great. If it doesn't I'll just go with the stock Q6600 cooler and no overclocking until I can order an e8400 and an NT06 and put the Q6600 in a folding box.

The Noctua NH-C12P is a lower profile 6 heatpipe heatsink, so if it it works with a little modding I think it's worth the effort. It compares fairly well to the big boy coolers, probably ranking just a tier below although it will suffer a bit with just the PSU fan.
 
I don't mean to double post, but I thought the thread could use a bump...

Anyway, trying to install the Noctua NH-C12P was a failure as expected. It might have fit if I removed the top cover of the psu, but then it still would have hit the back of the PSU enclosure and it was more trouble than it was worth.

So plan b should arrive next week, an E8400 with a DFI Lanparty JR and the Coolermaster GeminII S. It should fit without issue as it's 62mm without fan, but I haven't found many reviews on it. My only worry now is whether it clears the restrictive northbridge heatsink on the DFI.
 
I'm curious how that GeminII S works out for you. Please update us once you got it installed and working. Curious how the temps are.
 
I'll post some temps/impressions of the GeminII S for sure. I probably won't pull my TRUE out of my main PC or pull the Noctua off my other SFF for a direct comparison though.
 
Initial results with the GeminII S aren't that great. I was able to overclock the E8400 to 3600mhz without much of a voltage increase, currently at 1.15v in Coretemp. At that speed under a folding at home SMP load it's currently hovering around 70-75C in Coretemp. This is with just the PSU venting and two 1200 RPM Scythe intake fans. I had two 1600 RPM Scythe fans in there earlier and it was around 70ish max.

The GeminII S is a few mm too tall to fit the heatsink with fan which would drastically improve temps. I'm wondering if I would be better off going with an NT06-Lite or Evolution and putting a 120mm in the underneath config.
 
Hmmm... I was going to build another SG03 and was wondering if the GeminII would be better than the NT06-Lite. Thats why I was curious what your experiences were going to be. I have a NT06-Lite in my current SG03 and its pretty decent but I dont get into overclocking like many here do but temps are pretty good.

You can fit a fan 'under' the NT06-Lite's cooler fins. You just have to secure it with wire, paper clips, twisty ties, or whatever you have handy. There is discussion about how its done. Not hard really from what I have heard. I havent done it myself because I havent needed it.

I plan to mod my next SG03 with a top blow hole and 120mm fan. Performance-PCs told me they'd do it for an extra $19 so I'm going to buy through them and have them do it professionally. Not a bad price IMO. Plus I dont have the tools to do it myself. Maybe I'll mod a fan under a NT06-Lite fins as well just to see how temps are. :)
 
So the question is now, what HSF is optimal in the SG03? I think I've narrowed it down to the Zalman 8700nt, NT06-Lite or Evolution and... the GeminII? Any comments?
 
Intrusive said:
So the question is now, what HSF is optimal in the SG03? I think I've narrowed it down to the Zalman 8700nt, NT06-Lite or Evolution and... the GeminII? Any comments?
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the zalman is a great cooler, cools my friends q6600 quiet nicely.
the nt-06 was designed for the case using the psu fan as its active cooling.
the gemini II is a great passive cooler, but its HUGE and weighs ALOT!

personally i would go for the 8700 just because they are a good quality brand and its an active cooler not passive. but its all on what you would like to spend, the gemini II is prob your best bet if your on a budget.
 
I'm going to have to re-evaluate the GeminII S this weekend. I think there may be just enough room to fit the slim 120x120x20mm Yate Loon fan from Jab-Tech. If so it should drop temps considerably, I'm going to pull apart my PC and measure it to see if it will indeed fit.
 
CPU type may need some consideration here. The quad CPUs run hotter I hear (I still use dual cores) so an active cooler like the 8700 may be the better choice if you plan to use a Quad core. How much, if any, overclocking will certainly play a part. If just running a dual core at stock the NT06-Lite may be the better choice but if overclocking is involved then an active hsf is the way to go.

When it comes to the SG03 in general I think it comes down to either the NT06-Lite or a 8700. We havent yet seen a hsf that really out performs those two products by any large amount. Of course this is just my opinion. Others may disagree.

Manufacturers need to make some better hsf for these SFF cases. Our choices are pretty limited as is.
 
I have an NT06 and do not overclock. I have a Q9300 and it runs at upper 40s (like 48C) without gaming. It doesn't really get much hotter than that under load.
 
mrmylanman said:
I have an NT06 and do not overclock. I have a Q9300 and it runs at upper 40s (like 48C) without gaming. It doesn't really get much hotter than that under load.
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Which program are you using to monitor? Coretemp and realtemp are the most accurate as they pull from the individual cores.
 
Right now running Filezilla (idle), Windows Mail, Vuze (pretty active) and remote desktop:

Core temperatures and load
Core 0 - 56C (20%)
Core 1 - 49C (5%)
Core 2 - 52C (13%)
Core 3 - 46C (7%)
 
mrmylanman said:
Right now running Filezilla (idle), Windows Mail, Vuze (pretty active) and remote desktop:

Core temperatures and load
Core 0 - 56C (20%)
Core 1 - 49C (5%)
Core 2 - 52C (13%)
Core 3 - 46C (7%)
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Thanks, I think speedfan is accurate as well. I only saw the one temp listed so I assumed it was a program packaged with your motherboard.
 
IcedEmotion said:
Thanks, I think speedfan is accurate as well. I only saw the one temp listed so I assumed it was a program packaged with your motherboard.
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Well that was an average I remembered off the top of my head. I used to have Xigamatik (or however you spell it) fans on my SG03 which moved a lot of air, and cooled the system down pretty well, it was 2-3 degrees cooler than what it is now, but I moved to 800rpm Scythe fans, which are very quiet and I like them a lot. Even with the higher temps, I think I'm going to keep them.

I'm not too worried about 50C. In my SG01, it was more like 65C idle and 90C load, but that was with the 3 80mm fans, an Antec PSU and a Zalman cooler.
 
I use SpeedFan and Coretemp programs and they pretty much match temp numbers for my E6750. Idles about 25C. Also do not forget that you can mod a fan under the NT06-Lite in a SG03 to help improve cooling.
 
Just a bit of an updated regarding the Geminii S and SG03. I received my Slim (20mm) Yate Loon 120mm fan from Jab-Tech, and installed it. Fit is about as tight as can be without bending anything as it fits right under the PSU support rail and I have it pulling air through the heatsink into the PSU. Results are actually better than I expected.

CPU - Intel 8400 C0 @ 3600mhz, +150mv for CPU voltage. Load applied using Prime95 small fft.

Geminii S naked:

Idle - 50-55C
Load - 95C (killed test after 10 minutes)

Geminii S and Yate Loon Slim 1200 rpm :

Idle - 37C
Load - 60C (after 20 minutes)
 
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