Setting up new router

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SKYflyer

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I just got a wireless router (Buffalo WHR-HP-G54) and I tried replacing my old wired router with it, but it would not work, because of the location, which is too far away to get good signal strength in most of the house. So I had to plug the new router into an Ethernet jack in my house, so now we are kind of using 2 routers. I have heard this can cause problems, so I wanted to make sure I am doing everything right (I haven't noticed any problems yet though :) )

I hooked up the new wireless router to the Ethernet jack after putting it in "access point mode" by following the instructions on page 14 of the manual (http://www.buffalotech.com/support/getfile/?WHR-HP-G54-Manual-v1.7-web.pdf) so I hope I did that right... or was I supposed to follow the instructions to use it as a bridge/repeater?

I should note that I want to use the new wireless router to get wireless all around the house, and to also plug in a few wired Ethernet cables to run to 2 computers in the house (this is on top of 3 computers and this new wireless router which are plugged into the old wired router). Thanks for the help.

Here is a crudely drawn diagram of my current setup:
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ok I have 2 more questions:
Where should the cable from the wired router plug into the wireless router? Should it plug into the wireless router's WAN port or should it plug into one of its 4 LAN ports? Either way, everything seemed to work fine, but which one is better?

Also, how do I get to the configuration page of the wireless router? If I were using only the wireless router without the wired one, I know that you just type in 192.168.11.1 into FireFox and you're there, but that doesn't seem to work anymore now that I am using both routers... I need to adjust the encryption settings etc by accessing this page.
 
When you set up the router for an access point there would have been an option to select an IP adress for it to use, or it would have used the wired routers DCHP server. You need to find this adress either by looking at the IP's the wired router has assigned or by remembering the IP you entered. Once you have found the IP just input it into FF.
 
RoBo said:
When you set up the router for an access point there would have been an option to select an IP adress for it to use, or it would have used the wired routers DCHP server. You need to find this adress either by looking at the IP's the wired router has assigned or by remembering the IP you entered. Once you have found the IP just input it into FF.
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actually I found a solution that was different...
http://www.buffalotech.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10024&category_id=0&sid2=
I had to follow those instructions and temporarily change the IP address of my computer to access the wireless router configuration page.

Thanks though, I think I got everything figured out now!
 
Technically, you can plug it into any port. They're all autosensing now and can automatically make it into crossover. I know earlier routers had a different phy for the wan side, but I believe now they're all the same and just configured differently virtually.
 
SKYflyer said:
I just got a wireless router (Buffalo WHR-HP-G54) and I tried replacing my old wired router with it, but it would not work, because of the location, which is too far away to get good signal strength in most of the house. So I had to plug the new router into an Ethernet jack in my house, so now we are kind of using 2 routers. I have heard this can cause problems, so I wanted to make sure I am doing everything right (I haven't noticed any problems yet though :) )

I hooked up the new wireless router to the Ethernet jack after putting it in "access point mode" by following the instructions on page 14 of the manual (http://www.buffalotech.com/support/getfile/?WHR-HP-G54-Manual-v1.7-web.pdf) so I hope I did that right... or was I supposed to follow the instructions to use it as a bridge/repeater?

I should note that I want to use the new wireless router to get wireless all around the house, and to also plug in a few wired Ethernet cables to run to 2 computers in the house (this is on top of 3 computers and this new wireless router which are plugged into the old wired router). Thanks for the help.

Here is a crudely drawn diagram of my current setup:
problem.gif
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Turn off the DHCP from the WIRELESS Router. Other than that, you're good.
 
LANm0nk3y said:
Turn off the DHCP from the WIRELESS Router. Other than that, you're good.
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When you switch the router to ap mode, it should turn off dhcp. In short, switching to ap effectively reduces most all of the router's features and enables simple bridging only, along with the wireless set.
 
ziddey said:
When you switch the router to ap mode, it should turn off dhcp. In short, switching to ap effectively reduces most all of the router's features and enables simple bridging only, along with the wireless set.
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I see. I didn't read any documentation on this or know about buffalo products, but it all depends on the products. DHCP servers can be deployed on the same subnets, but there's no telling whether it's going to DHCP server 1 or 2. If the Wireless router firmware checks to see if there's already existing DHCP and turns itself off -- then I can see that. I'm usually pretty weary of router firmware disabling dhcp -- just doesn't happen for me.
 
LANm0nk3y said:
I see. I didn't read any documentation on this or know about buffalo products, but it all depends on the products. DHCP servers can be deployed on the same subnets, but there's no telling whether it's going to DHCP server 1 or 2. If the Wireless router firmware checks to see if there's already existing DHCP and turns itself off -- then I can see that. I'm usually pretty weary of router firmware disabling dhcp -- just doesn't happen for me.
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the router would only employ a dhcp server if it's acting as a router. if it's in bridge mode (where it's only the ap), it wouldn't have a dhcp server, since it'd be giving default gateway of the actual other router. i've never seen a case of that before. however, when you're not truly in "ap mode" then it will indeed have a dhcp server, and if your clients end up on it, then it's passing through two nats
 
SKYflyer said:
ok I have 2 more questions:
Where should the cable from the wired router plug into the wireless router? Should it plug into the wireless router's WAN port or should it plug into one of its 4 LAN ports? Either way, everything seemed to work fine, but which one is better?

Also, how do I get to the configuration page of the wireless router? If I were using only the wireless router without the wired one, I know that you just type in 192.168.11.1 into FireFox and you're there, but that doesn't seem to work anymore now that I am using both routers... I need to adjust the encryption settings etc by accessing this page.
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On page 14 of that link you said you followed...it told you the new IP address it auto assigns itself ends in .100 from .1
 
ziddey said:
the router would only employ a dhcp server if it's acting as a router. if it's in bridge mode (where it's only the ap), it wouldn't have a dhcp server, since it'd be giving default gateway of the actual other router. i've never seen a case of that before. however, when you're not truly in "ap mode" then it will indeed have a dhcp server, and if your clients end up on it, then it's passing through two nats
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I agree with you about bridging mode. But I was thinking about Wireless modes -- at leasts that's what he's asking which wireless mode he should be using. Because bridging would technically just disable routing all together.
 
YeOldeStonecat said:
On page 14 of that link you said you followed...it told you the new IP address it auto assigns itself ends in .100 from .1
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Yeah, I tried accessing the configuration page by going to 192.168.11.100, but that didn't work until I changed my computer's IP address to 192.168.11.101. I got it working now though
 
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